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Postby Kaitscralt » Fri Mar 14, 2014 3:09 am

hmm. perhaps, perhaps, perhaps.

i know i just finally hit 40 after a severe drought this week.
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Postby BlakLanner » Fri Mar 14, 2014 3:57 am

ZMan, I finally win a match and you get knocked out of the same 8man in round 1? Lame.
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Postby imopen2 » Fri Mar 14, 2014 3:58 am

Zem, after you said you were brewing a block burn deck I decided to throw something together as a baseline. here's what I came up with:


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2 Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx
4 Temple of Abandon
2 Temple of Malice
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4 Firedrinker Satyr
2 Hammer of Purphoros
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4 Fanatic of Mogis
4 Magma Jet
4 Searing Blood
2 Bolt of Keranos
4 Lightning Strike
3 Everflame Eidolon

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4 Peak Eruption
1 Everflame Eidolon
1 Stormbreath Dragon
2 Akroan Horse
4 Purphoros, God of the Forge
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Postby Kaitscralt » Fri Mar 14, 2014 4:15 am

i just timed out my mono black opponent

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Postby Kaitscralt » Fri Mar 14, 2014 4:15 am

beat an active erebos for about 7 turns
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Postby imopen2 » Fri Mar 14, 2014 4:16 am

i just timed out my mono black opponent

for justice
you fucking savage
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Postby Kaitscralt » Fri Mar 14, 2014 4:16 am

who needs lifegain
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Postby Kaitscralt » Fri Mar 14, 2014 4:17 am

great mono black round 2, another hour of my life
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Postby BlakLanner » Fri Mar 14, 2014 4:17 am

Testing some new streaming stuff. About the only thing Win8 is good for is making my streams smoother, it seems. Will be flickering off and on, thank god I have no followers.
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Postby zemanjaski » Fri Mar 14, 2014 4:25 am

I am running so bad today. Opponent at 3, draw land for three straight turns and die.
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Postby zemanjaski » Fri Mar 14, 2014 4:28 am

Talk about fucking variance, three matches today come down to my opponent needing running cards to my 1, they get there all three times. Instead of being up 20 I am down 15. FML.
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Postby Kaitscralt » Fri Mar 14, 2014 4:34 am

yeah, i am not doing great. got one rupee, lost a couple unloseable games.
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Postby Kaitscralt » Fri Mar 14, 2014 4:35 am

can't beat the top of my crappy opponents deck, not even the opponent who can't kill me with pack rat when they have 100% perfect information
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Postby BlakLanner » Fri Mar 14, 2014 4:40 am

And fell in round 3 to a bad keep + flood, then to an Obzedat. First QP of the season.
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Postby zemanjaski » Fri Mar 14, 2014 4:41 am

OK crushed an Esper player and beat a Hexproof guy. Feel a bit better.
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Postby imopen2 » Fri Mar 14, 2014 5:21 am

My MTGO day started rather badly; I lost 0-2 to MonoB Control in my first SE and 0-2 in the Mirror in my second. Undeterred I pressed on and beat MonoU 2-0 in my 3rd before losing to RWDevo 0-2 in the second round :( Variance had played a part but I was not a happy LaZer at this point :(

Fortunately I remembered some wise words offered to me by Zem in similar circumstances a couple of days ago - "Don't get disheartened, play slowly, review your games, ask questions on the Forum, you'll get better" so I decided to record some games, commentate and get some feedback from you all

So without further ado here you go :) Feedback on my lines of play are MOST welcome :) I've already spotted some errors reviewing them :)
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I've only watched the first video so far, and overall I think you played nearly exactly how I would have.

I thought it was smart of you to hold the boros charm near the end of game 2, in case you drew another firedancer. however, I think
after you drew the searing blood you should have used the charm at his next eot, this would free up your mana so that a burn spell would have been lethal in combination with the mutavault. additionally, you then drew a mutavault but held it and tapped your mountain to attack instead. I would have played the vault, tapped it to activate the other, leaving up boros charm AND searing blood mana, therefore making any 2 power or less creature a lethal play for him.

I also felt like maybe the shocks should have stayed in instead of the spark troopers since shock has a lot of targets but I'm not that familiar with the sb strategy so I'm not sure
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Postby Pedros » Fri Mar 14, 2014 6:41 am

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Postby LaZerBurn » Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:48 am


I've only watched the first video so far, and overall I think you played nearly exactly how I would have.

I thought it was smart of you to hold the boros charm near the end of game 2, in case you drew another firedancer. however, I think after you drew the searing blood you should have used the charm at his next eot, this would free up your mana so that a burn spell would have been lethal in combination with the mutavault. additionally, you then drew a mutavault but held it and tapped your mountain to attack instead. I would have played the vault, tapped it to activate the other, leaving up boros charm AND searing blood mana, therefore making any 2 power or less creature a lethal play for him.

I also felt like maybe the shocks should have stayed in instead
of the spark troopers since shock has a lot of targets but I'm not that familiar with the sb strategy so I'm not sure
Thanks for the feedback :D You're correct about the Vault activation, MDU noticed it too, I just missed the line. I SBed incorrectly too, that was my mistake :)
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Postby magicdownunder » Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:39 am

I never knew Brad was FFFreak, I always just treated him as a decent grinder.
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Postby zemanjaski » Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:44 am

That's about right.
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Postby magicdownunder » Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:54 am

Really bad run for me tonight, I got kinda tilted and ragequit my DE as well so I wasn't in good form.
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Postby magicdownunder » Fri Mar 14, 2014 12:00 pm

Looking back at today, I think I've gotten drunk of my success - since strings of defeat isn't something I'm accustomed too so I let it effect me more then it should have.

Gonna call it a night and try again tomorrow :smileup: maybe its time for some Modern Magic again or if I really want to blow stream I can go abuse Pauper (though the firing rate is HORRIBLE).
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Postby Kaitscralt » Fri Mar 14, 2014 12:17 pm

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Postby magicdownunder » Fri Mar 14, 2014 12:47 pm

OMG I sold a fair number of my Robot cards sometime in the past without noticing.

It seems that out of my PRM collection the cards which are worth the most are:

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Tropical Island (29)
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Batterskull (30)
Natural Order (60)

I have Foil versions as well, I'm not sure how much it would jack the price by.

Ham may I have my Batterskull back? I need some extra funding soon (wanna play Robots :P).
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Postby Kaitscralt » Fri Mar 14, 2014 12:53 pm

Wow I sold my Batterskull too early
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Postby BlakLanner » Fri Mar 14, 2014 1:21 pm

And now for a lovely day of grinding on my day off before FNM tonight.
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Postby Pedros » Fri Mar 14, 2014 1:28 pm

@MDU

Where do you find prices for those promos? Noone want to give even 30 for natural order.
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Postby Kaitscralt » Fri Mar 14, 2014 1:36 pm

maybe he's full of shit
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Postby magicdownunder » Fri Mar 14, 2014 1:38 pm

@MDU

Where do you find prices for those promos? Noone want to give even 30 for natural order.
MTGOGOLDFISH and if you type Promo in classified and try and buy Natural order that is what they'll sell it for.

Though I agree no one buys them for those prices. T_T
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Postby magicdownunder » Fri Mar 14, 2014 1:41 pm

On that note, anyone know hows to set-up bots? The only way to get "buy" prices is to sell it to humans (bots buy for less and sell for more).
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Postby Jonnymagic » Fri Mar 14, 2014 1:41 pm

I scrubbed out of the DE 1-2 last night, with both losses getting my opponent to 2 with no cards in hand and 4 turns from death both times (due to life gain and his lack of board presence). Both losses I drew 4 land straight and he just durdled to victory. I hate losses like that. @zem -- YOU BEAT HEXPROOF?!?!? Woo! There is hope, albeit completely unrealistic =D.
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Postby magicdownunder » Fri Mar 14, 2014 1:46 pm

maybe he's full of shit
I was gonna ask where did you sell your Batterskull too? It seems really hard to unload them.

MTGOtrader do have a buy/sell list but the bots don't seem to want anything.
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Postby zemanjaski » Fri Mar 14, 2014 1:51 pm

Totaled by inventory, plus cards bought and I have clawed my way back to even today, with I think, a much refined deck list and good insight as a result. ^_^
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Postby imopen2 » Fri Mar 14, 2014 1:53 pm

On that note, anyone know hows to set-up bots? The only way to get "buy" prices is to sell it to humans (bots buy for less and sell for more).
I set up a bot through mtgo library a few weeks ago but I could never get it to buy or sell anything. I'm not sure if its because of my prices, my small inventory, or if I was doing something wrong. The bot would just sit for hours in buy/sell mode and never interact with any humans
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Postby Kaitscralt » Fri Mar 14, 2014 1:58 pm

maybe he's full of shit
I was gonna ask where did you sell your Batterskull too? It seems really hard to unload them.

MTGOtrader do have a buy/sell list but the bots don't seem to want anything.
I sold it to

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Postby BlakLanner » Fri Mar 14, 2014 1:59 pm

On that note, anyone know hows to set-up bots? The only way to get "buy" prices is to sell it to humans (bots buy for less and sell for more).
I set up a bot through mtgo library a few weeks ago but I could never get it to buy or sell anything. I'm not sure if its because of my prices, my small inventory, or if I was doing something wrong. The bot would just sit for hours in buy/sell mode and never interact with any humans
New bots always have a rough time of it since people go to the ones they know and trust. It also doesn't help that you can't search for
cards in trade binders other than what is specifically advertised.
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Postby magicdownunder » Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:03 pm

Blah, I'll just set-up a Sell-Order with (Bot sell prices slightly marked down) and wait till a human wants one.

@Kait: did you find your human via classified or did you set-up a sell-order?
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