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Postby photodyer » Wed May 01, 2013 4:34 am

Moving this to the restricted area would be a good idea. A new recruitment thread could be started for anyone else looking to join.
We've discussed it before, and I agree in thinking it makes sense. I know on the one hand that it's been argued that we've nothing to hide in terms of speaking our minds and taking responsibility for same, but I'm of a mind that we're inviting bullshit asshattery by leaving our primary clan convo out in an open thread. Of course, the issue inherent in shutting the door is that while it keeps the drama queen behavior to a minimum, it also stifles recruitment of liked-minded individuals. It's not at this point as relevant as it was on Sally since D2R simply doesn't have the sheer traffic of the Sally
forums, but a point to consider. I believe the tier accesses would also need tweaked, but that shouldn't be an issue.

Bottom line, random onslaughts by rt's crank are not safe for public perusal and we do have a responsibility to protect the unprepared. ;-)
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Postby Self Medicated » Wed May 01, 2013 4:44 am

Hey guys. Don't forget. Free comic book day is this Friday. My LGS always gives away a shit ton of comics on that day.
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Postby Kazekirimaru » Wed May 01, 2013 4:54 am

TubeHunter, while I respect your excellent trolling skillz, I, personally, hate you as a human being for making that thread.
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Postby Kazekirimaru » Wed May 01, 2013 4:55 am

I'm up for any sort of movement of our usual conversations so we can shield from prying eyes, by the way.
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Postby photodyer » Wed May 01, 2013 4:56 am

Hey guys. Don't forget. Free comic book day is this Friday. My LGS always gives away a shit ton of comics on that day.
Thanks, SM! My LGS doesn't do comics, but one of the local comic shops always participates. I used to take the kids, but that fell by the wayside when I stopped having time to keep up with books. They used to run their day on a Saturday...I'll have to look into it with the big fantasy art show coming up here in a few weeks.
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Postby Self Medicated » Wed May 01, 2013 4:57 am

Oh yeah, I forgot about Margaery Tyrell.

Man, the chick they got to play Brienne of Tarth is a fucking sasquatch!
Well yeah, she's supposed to be. :sherlock:

Also her name is awesome. "Gwendoline." Delightful.
Yeah, I know. I love the books. I was just surprised when I saw the actress they got to play her and I remember thinking, "Wow, they found the perfect person."

Just discovered that she's 6'3".
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Postby Alex » Wed May 01, 2013 4:58 am

Coliseum of Comics has free comics every Wednesday so I guess I'm spoiled in that regard.

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Postby Self Medicated » Wed May 01, 2013 5:00 am

Hey guys. Don't forget. Free comic book day is this Friday. My LGS always gives away a shit ton of comics on that day.
Thanks, SM! My LGS doesn't do comics, but one of the local comic shops always participates. I used to take the kids, but that fell by the wayside when I stopped having time to keep up with books. They used to run their day on a Saturday...I'll have to look into it with the big fantasy art show coming up here in a few weeks.
My bad. It's this Saturday, May 4th.
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Postby photodyer » Wed May 01, 2013 5:10 am

Hey guys. Don't forget. Free comic book day is this Friday. My LGS always gives away a shit ton of comics on that day.
Thanks, SM! My LGS doesn't do comics, but one of the local comic shops always participates. I used to take the kids, but that fell by the wayside when I stopped having time to keep up with books. They used to run their day on a Saturday...I'll have to look into it with the
big fantasy art show coming up here in a few weeks.
My bad. It's this Saturday, May 4th.
No worries, man...we play day/date juggling around my house all the time! :D I definitely need to take a look and see if either of the close shops are having anyone in...we have a couple of local guys (Dennis Hopeless and Kevin Mellon) that made the big leagues in the past few years and may come out to sign stuff and such. My kids each have sketches that Mellon did for them (of Sonic the Hedgehog and Harley Quinn) back in his early starving artist days. I missed our comic-con, so I'd like a chance to catch up with them. When the kids were little, I used to spend every Sunday afternoon gabbing with Dennis about comics/writing/philosophy while my kids ate Happy Meals and played with action figures in the game room. Life was simpler...
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Postby windstrider » Wed May 01, 2013 5:11 am

R_A mentioned contacting everyone in the FoS clan when he first appeared. I know he contacted me.

Can this entire thread be moved into the restricted area? That would effectively prevent people from peering in on our conversations.

Note that said peering.
Actually I think "peeing" would in some cases be just as functionally correct. ;-)

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Postby Link » Wed May 01, 2013 5:40 am

mmmmm

at the risk of sounded incredibly stupid:

Don't we already have a Clan restricted place to post in?

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Postby Kazekirimaru » Wed May 01, 2013 5:44 am

mmmmm

at the risk of sounded incredibly stupid:

Don't we already have a Clan restricted place to post in?
Do you want to get swept under the rug? >.>
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Postby photodyer » Wed May 01, 2013 6:05 am

mmmmm

at the risk of sounded incredibly stupid:

Don't we already have a Clan restricted place to post in?
Yep. The point being discussed is moving our primary convo thread under said clubhouse roof.

@windstrider - It sounds like things are still level and locked down...I'll hold off on dump trucks and back hoes until you say different. ;-) Sorry to hear about the headache...no fun. Rest well.
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Postby zemanjaski » Wed May 01, 2013 6:39 am

Updated UG list with board:

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4 Breeding Pool
3 Cavern if Souls
3 Forest
5 Island
4 Hinterland Harbour

4 Augur of Bolas
4 Delver of Secrets
4 Snapcaster Mage
4 Quirion Dryad

1 Runechanter's Pike

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4 Simic Charm
3 Spell Rupture
3 Syncopate
4 Think Twice
4 Thought Scour
4 Unsummon

Sideboard
1 Artful Dodge
1 Cavern of Souls
1 Dispel
1 Dissipate
1 Essence Scatter
3 Fog
3 Memory's Journey
1 Negate
3 Talrand, Sky Summoner[/deck]

Notes:
- Unsummon is absurd; it's mostly for be-buying Snapcaster or Augur with life gain (you block their guy then Unsummon yours), which is understandably powerful. There are other cute things to do as well, like unsummoning guys who are being enchanted, being a faux dispel etc.
- Added a single pike for the interaction with Spell Rupture and EOT Snapcaster tricks. It's also just really good against Thragtusk.
- Simic Charm is
deceptively powerful, functioning as either 4 Negates or 4 Giant Growth or 4 Unsummon. Very nice interaction with Snapcaster obviously.
- 24 blue instants/sorceries for Delver, Augur, Dryad and Talrand.
- Fog is for locking out low removal hyper-aggro decks; they do a lot of damage to themselves already but can't really interact with your clock themselves; a single fog can be 10 plus life and you can easily Snapcaster it back after they declare attackers to blow them out for lethal.
- Memory's Journey is apparently great vs. reanimator, but I haven't tested it yet; I think this deck murks reanimator anyway.
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Postby hamfactorial » Wed May 01, 2013 10:22 am

I gave some thought to the clan discussion thread and I think I'd just like to leave this one here. If I have anything private to post, I can just do that in the private board.

I do think we should start a private thread in the private board, just to get some momentum going. It may be difficult to keep track of two threads, but I expect this one will get more use.

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Postby photodyer » Wed May 01, 2013 11:18 am

I gave some thought to the clan discussion thread and I think I'd just like to leave this one here. If I have anything private to post, I can just do that in the private board.

I do think we should start a private thread in the private board, just to get some momentum going. It may be difficult to keep track of two threads, but I expect this one will get more use.
To facilitate this line of thought, I just created a private go-to thread for things we deem appropriate to post "behind closed doors". My thought is that someone can simply point to something they've posted in the private thread for casual viewing (e.
g., personal photos that one doesn't want publicly available), or call out "to the back room" or somesuch to suggest an active discussion be continued behind the curtain.
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Postby redthirst » Wed May 01, 2013 12:24 pm

I'm against moving the primary thread for two reasons:

1. If you want to post general convo stuff in the restricted area, there's already a thread for that, and
2. Since we decided to not give restricted access before Tier 2, this thread is pretty much the best way for new members to understand what we're about and vice versa.
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Postby photodyer » Wed May 01, 2013 1:00 pm

I'm against moving the primary thread for two reasons:

1. If you want to post general convo stuff in the restricted area, there's already a thread for that, and
2. Since we decided to not give restricted access before Tier 2, this thread is pretty much the best way for new members to understand what we're about and vice versa.
I said pretty much what you point out in (2); that's why I just started a thread over in the private section specifically for bounce discussions.
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Postby Sasky » Wed May 01, 2013 1:14 pm

Updated UG list with board:

[deck]
4 Breeding Pool
3 Cavern if Souls
3 Forest
5 Island
4 Hinterland Harbour

4 Augur of Bolas
4 Delver of Secrets
4 Snapcaster Mage
4 Quirion Dryad

1 Runechanter's Pike

2 Rapid Hybridization
4 Simic Charm
3 Spell Rupture
3 Syncopate
4 Think Twice
4 Thought Scour
4 Unsummon

Sideboard
1 Artful Dodge
1 Cavern of Souls
1 Dispel
1 Dissipate
1 Essence Scatter
3 Fog
3 Memory's Journey
1 Negate
3 Talrand, Sky Summoner[/deck]

Notes:
- Unsummon is absurd; it's mostly for be-buying Snapcaster or Augur with life gain (you block their guy then Unsummon yours), which is understandably powerful. There are other cute things to do as well, like unsummoning guys who are being enchanted, being a faux dispel etc.
-
Added a single pike for the interaction with Spell Rupture and EOT Snapcaster tricks. It's also just really good against Thragtusk.
- Simic Charm is deceptively powerful, functioning as either 4 Negates or 4 Giant Growth or 4 Unsummon. Very nice interaction with Snapcaster obviously.
- 24 blue instants/sorceries for Delver, Augur, Dryad and Talrand.
- Fog is for locking out low removal hyper-aggro decks; they do a lot of damage to themselves already but can't really interact with your clock themselves; a single fog can be 10 plus life and you can easily Snapcaster it back after they declare attackers to blow them out for lethal.
- Memory's Journey is apparently great vs. reanimator, but I haven't tested it yet; I think this deck murks reanimator anyway.
I have nothing to add, looks incredibly solid. How do you flashback artful dodge though? Why not just ghostform?
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Postby redthirst » Wed May 01, 2013 1:19 pm

Spell Rupture?

I hate Standard counter magic.
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Postby Sasky » Wed May 01, 2013 1:29 pm

Went to watch iron man 3 today. So disappointed.
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Postby zemanjaski » Wed May 01, 2013 1:42 pm

I have nothing to add, looks incredibly solid. How do you flashback artful dodge though? Why not just ghostform?
By tapping blue? I am confused.
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Postby redthirst » Wed May 01, 2013 1:47 pm

I think Sasky left the word "often" out of his question - "How often do you flashback..."

Anyway, since it looks like the main win con is a big ol' Dryad then two turns of it being unblockable > one turn of it + something being unblockable.
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redthirst is redthirst, fifth Horseman of the Apocalypse. He was the leader of the Fires of Salvation, the only clan I'm aware of to get modded off the forums so hard they made their own forums.

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Postby photodyer » Wed May 01, 2013 1:47 pm

Went to watch iron man 3 today. So disappointed.
Sasky brings up a point that I'd love to have explained to me...

How is it that an American movie based on an American comic book opened outside the US a week before it opens here? I'm sure there's some logic behind it...if anyone knows, please enlighten me. It seems absurd that people seeing the movie now can't discuss it with us until Friday without dropping spoils.
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Postby Sasky » Wed May 01, 2013 1:52 pm

I have nothing to add, looks incredibly solid. How do you flashback artful dodge though? Why not just ghostform?
By tapping blue? I am confused.
I'm the confused one. Why did I think that artful dodge needed white to flashback???? Now that I know it's blue to flashback, artful dodge is definitely the stronger spell.
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3 today. So disappointed.
Sasky brings up a point that I'd love to have explained to me...

How is it that an American movie based on an American comic book opened outside the US a week before it opens here? I'm sure there's some logic behind it...if anyone knows, please enlighten me. It seems absurd that people seeing the movie now can't discuss it with us until Friday without dropping spoils.
The Mandarin. He's Asian. See? It all makes sense now.
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Postby redthirst » Wed May 01, 2013 1:55 pm

I think Sasky left the word "often" out of his question - "How often do you flashback..."

Anyway, since it looks like the main win con is a big ol' Dryad then two turns of it being unblockable > one turn of it + something being unblockable.
Nevermind, turns out Sasky just went retarded.

That's the kind of shit that happens when you hang out in the mod lounge.
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Postby Sasky » Wed May 01, 2013 1:58 pm

I blame saving grasp, having played with it so much and never with artful dodge.
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Postby zemanjaski » Wed May 01, 2013 2:02 pm

I can understand that, Saving Grasp is amazing.
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Postby rcwraspy » Wed May 01, 2013 2:31 pm

I'm against moving the primary thread for two reasons:

1. If you want to post general convo stuff in the restricted area, there's already a thread for that, and
2. Since we decided to not give restricted access before Tier 2, this thread is pretty much the best way for new members to understand what we're about and vice versa.
I agree with these sentiments, but I also feel we shouldn't move strictly based on principle. But I'm one of those types who will dig his heels in and say "fuck you, your mother, and the clown she rode in on" to anybody who screws with me.

The entire reason we moved here from Sally was because Sally didn't feel what we said belonged there. So we moved to an entirely separate forums. Sally people can
look all they want, but they need their heads examined if they think what we say here should have any bearing whatsoever on our Sally accounts or what we say on Sally. Only what we say on Sally should matter over there.
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Postby Kazekirimaru » Wed May 01, 2013 3:07 pm

Morning, folks. Off to a double-shift at work. Making money is fun.

I actually ate a bowl of fruit this morning instead of my usual carb-and-grain-heavy, not-natural-at-all breakfast. I feel like my body is rejecting it like an incompatible liver. Goes to show how much your body gets used to your usual shit, I suppose. I hope it goes away soon.
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Postby TubeHunter » Wed May 01, 2013 3:08 pm

I have one breakfast option: Bagels. All others are incompatible
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Postby TubeHunter » Wed May 01, 2013 3:12 pm

Also, I 've been testing Progentor Mimic in my RUG ramp deck, and that card is so cool. It might be my favorite. Copy Thragtusk? Next turn Thragtusk? turn after that Thragtusk? Yes please
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Postby Valdarith » Wed May 01, 2013 3:16 pm

RE: Russian Alara AKA Exxarion Universe (or however the fuck it's spelled)

He followed our conversation on Sunday when all the crazy shit on Sally was going down in the R/x Forum and decided he would do his best to report us (as in Alex and whoever else was posting in the new RDW Discussion Thread) and attempt to get people banned. He later explained that he had to do the best he could to protect "his" people.

So I told him to get the fuck out. He's a regular Benedict Arnold. Pretending to be our friend only to sell us out. There's a word for that. It's called a NARC. And narcs aren't welcome in the FoS.

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Added my two cents.
Make sure you report the thread, too. Preferably using the exact same wording as mine for extra lulz. :V
and says a ban in my book , so I am reporting you guys sorry nothing personal...
I'm still wondering what was reportable in my post in that thread. As a matter of fact, I posted that before I saw that Alex had reported the OP, so I was acting on my own accord. My post there was a LOT nicer than it could have been.
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Postby redthirst » Wed May 01, 2013 3:18 pm

The Granger Sandwich - an everything bagel flanking thick-cut bacon, provolone cheese, and cream cheese.

That's how you do breakfast.
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Degenerate? Sure. Loudmouth? You bet. Law abiding? No ****ing way.

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Postby HodorHodorHodor » Wed May 01, 2013 3:21 pm

RE: Russian Alara AKA Exxarion Universe (or however the fuck it's spelled)

He followed our conversation on Sunday when all the crazy shit on Sally was going down in the R/x Forum and decided he would do his best to report us (as in Alex and whoever else was posting in the new RDW Discussion Thread) and attempt to get people banned. He later explained that he had to do the best he could to protect "his" people.

So I told him to get the fuck out. He's a regular Benedict Arnold. Pretending to be our friend only to sell us out. There's a word for that. It's called a NARC. And narcs aren'
t welcome in the FoS.

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Added my two cents.
Make sure you report the thread, too. Preferably using the exact same wording as mine for extra lulz. :V
and says a ban in my book , so I am reporting you guys sorry nothing personal...
I'm still wondering what was reportable in my post in that thread. As a matter of fact, I posted that before I saw that Alex had
reported the OP, so I was acting on my own accord. My post there was a LOT nicer than it could have been.
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Postby rcwraspy » Wed May 01, 2013 3:23 pm

Updated UG list with board:

[deck]
4 Breeding Pool
3 Cavern if Souls
3 Forest
5 Island
4 Hinterland Harbour

4 Augur of Bolas
4 Delver of Secrets
4 Snapcaster Mage
4 Quirion Dryad

1 Runechanter's Pike

2 Rapid Hybridization
4 Simic Charm
3 Spell Rupture
3 Syncopate
4 Think Twice
4 Thought Scour
4 Unsummon

Sideboard
1 Artful Dodge
1 Cavern of Souls
1 Dispel
1 Dissipate
1 Essence Scatter
3 Fog
3 Memory's Journey
1 Negate
3 Talrand, Sky Summoner[/deck]

Notes:
- Unsummon is absurd; it's mostly for be-buying Snapcaster or Augur with life gain (you block their guy then Unsummon yours), which is understandably powerful. There are other cute things to do as well, like unsummoning guys who are being enchanted, being a faux dispel etc.
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Added a single pike for the interaction with Spell Rupture and EOT Snapcaster tricks. It's also just really good against Thragtusk.
- Simic Charm is deceptively powerful, functioning as either 4 Negates or 4 Giant Growth or 4 Unsummon. Very nice interaction with Snapcaster obviously.
- 24 blue instants/sorceries for Delver, Augur, Dryad and Talrand.
- Fog is for locking out low removal hyper-aggro decks; they do a lot of damage to themselves already but can't really interact with your clock themselves; a single fog can be 10 plus life and you can easily Snapcaster it back after they declare attackers to blow them out for lethal.
- Memory's Journey is apparently great vs. reanimator, but I haven't tested it yet; I think this deck murks reanimator anyway.
This list looks pretty sick. I'm prone to suggesting bad ideas without really thinking them through or testing first, but part of me thinks a singleton Prime Speaker Zegana would be disgusting in this.
Imagine the card draw off a large Dryad or something with a Pike? She'd also be a beatstick herself, and would be a "prime" unsummon target.
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Postby redthirst » Wed May 01, 2013 3:25 pm

6 drops don't generally truck with 19 land decks.
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Originally posted by Dechs Kaison on MTGS
redthirst is redthirst, fifth Horseman of the Apocalypse. He was the leader of the Fires of Salvation, the only clan I'm aware of to get modded off the forums so hard they made their own forums.

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Postby rcwraspy » Wed May 01, 2013 3:29 pm

6 drops don't generally truck with 19 land decks.
pffft i didn't even look at the land base. I told you I was prone to suggesting bad ideas.
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Postby TubeHunter » Wed May 01, 2013 3:36 pm

6 drops don't generally truck with 19 land decks.
Nah, I generally cast my 6 drops on curve with 19 lands about 75 percent of the time.


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Postby Valdarith » Wed May 01, 2013 3:37 pm

Updated UG list with board:

[deck]
4 Breeding Pool
3 Cavern if Souls
3 Forest
5 Island
4 Hinterland Harbour

4 Augur of Bolas
4 Delver of Secrets
4 Snapcaster Mage
4 Quirion Dryad

1 Runechanter's Pike

2 Rapid Hybridization
4 Simic Charm
3 Spell Rupture
3 Syncopate
4 Think Twice
4 Thought Scour
4 Unsummon

Sideboard
1 Artful Dodge
1 Cavern of Souls
1 Dispel
1 Dissipate
1 Essence Scatter
3 Fog
3 Memory's Journey
1 Negate
3 Talrand, Sky Summoner[/deck]

Notes:
- Unsummon is absurd; it's mostly for be-buying Snapcaster or Augur with life gain (you block their guy then Unsummon yours), which is understandably powerful. There are other cute things to do as well, like unsummoning guys who are being enchanted, being a faux
dispel etc.
- Added a single pike for the interaction with Spell Rupture and EOT Snapcaster tricks. It's also just really good against Thragtusk.
- Simic Charm is deceptively powerful, functioning as either 4 Negates or 4 Giant Growth or 4 Unsummon. Very nice interaction with Snapcaster obviously.
- 24 blue instants/sorceries for Delver, Augur, Dryad and Talrand.
- Fog is for locking out low removal hyper-aggro decks; they do a lot of damage to themselves already but can't really interact with your clock themselves; a single fog can be 10 plus life and you can easily Snapcaster it back after they declare attackers to blow them out for lethal.
- Memory's Journey is apparently great vs. reanimator, but I haven't tested it yet; I think this deck murks reanimator anyway.
I actually like this list more than the UB one I've been playing. It has a lot more flexibility and greater tempo plays. I feel like the UB list I've been playing ultimately wants to play control and not tempo.

nInteresting that you're playing Rapid Hybridization when you previously dismissed the card at GTC release. Change of heart? :p
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