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Postby Blackhound » Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:25 am

Hey Senori, guess what I am goinf to ask you.

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Postby Shalako » Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:25 am

Oh So you don't really care about who it is.

Just spamming to annoy.
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Postby Blackhound » Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:25 am

But I do, I will create poll sometime next week.

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Postby Blackhound » Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:26 am

poll pot

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Postby Senori » Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:26 am

ah senori is here
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Postby Shalako » Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:27 am

But I do, I will create poll sometime next week.
Why would you create a poll for something everyone with half a brain has figured out already?
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Postby Blackhound » Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:29 am

But I do, I will create poll sometime next week.
Why would you create a poll for something everyone with half a brain has figured out already?

that the leak is Nai.

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Postby Blackhound » Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:31 am

Though the real question is as to why the church of scientology has a navy fleet.

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Postby iamabadman » Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:36 am

fuck these cunts

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Postby Shalako » Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:36 am

lol Nai as the A.I.M. leak.
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Postby Blackhound » Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:38 am

Maybe it was Rancored elf, he had all sorts of infinate tools till wizards filed a lawsuit againt him.

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Postby Blackhound » Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:39 am

Need sleep.

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Postby Second Harkius » Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:44 am

People coming and telling us that they are not mad makes it very easy to keep track of who is not mad.

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Postby Pendulum » Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:47 am

I'm mad as a hatter, but I expect that's in my dossier.
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Postby Second Harkius » Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:48 am

Alice: But I don't want to go among mad people.

The Cat: Oh, you can't help that. We're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.

Alice: How do you know I'm mad?

The Cat: The CI thread

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Postby Pendulum » Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:51 am

Drink me.
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Postby Pendulum » Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:59 am

Groundhog didn't see his shadow, btw. Early Spring is on the way!
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Postby Pendulum » Sun Feb 03, 2013 2:25 am

Hi badman!

Did you know my work IP is blocked on this site? It's weird. Apparently I spam too much.
You'll wanna use something called a bridgeOUT so your end IP is the same as your home network, they're click-and-load on most VPNs so no big deal just search for it on the VPN's home site; of course that defeats the main purpose of most VPNs so I dunno if it's an option for you.
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Postby Stardust » Sun Feb 03, 2013 3:28 am

If all it takes to get new members here is to name them like Voldemort then I would have chanted the entire staff months ago
I tried to sign up a few days ago. But like I said, I'm a spambot.

Also, I have no idea what you just said, Pendulum. But thanks for trying.
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Postby Col. Khaddafi » Sun Feb 03, 2013 3:43 am

Who is the leak.
John Rambo should have uncovered a healthy dossier by now.

Also the leak is Nai
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Originally posted by Galspanic on MTGS
I would still like to see the posts sent over to ( N_S ) and have the Salvation Gutter archived away and replaced with a link to MTGC.
Thank you for all the lies. Another fine display of integrity by iridium :thumbsup:

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Postby Col. Khaddafi » Sun Feb 03, 2013 3:45 am

Hi badman!

Did you know my work IP is blocked on this site? It's weird. Apparently I spam too much.
Don't blame us, blame StopForumSpam.com

Also blame whoever scumbag is using your work network for malicious actions.
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Originally posted by Galspanic on MTGS
I would still like to see the posts sent over to ( N_S ) and have the Salvation Gutter archived away and replaced with a link to MTGC.
Thank you for all the lies. Another fine display of integrity by iridium :thumbsup:

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Postby Pendulum » Sun Feb 03, 2013 3:47 am

It's basic IP masking. Your current IP is recognized, for whatever reason, as being malicious enough to "shoot on sight," so to get around that you can set your IPTP (IP travel path) to a network that isn't on the "hit list." It is, however, illegal to use a network you don't have permission to use, so in most cases you have to use your home network (the router at your house). This:
http://openvpn.net/index.php/open-sourc ... dging.html

Has an adequate explanation of the process.
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Postby Pendulum » Sun Feb 03, 2013 3:56 am

Also you should start an Introduce Yourself thread. :)
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Postby Captain Murphy » Sun Feb 03, 2013 4:50 am

Show me Megiddo
lol
It's too bad we don't have a secret subforum where we can coordinate troll attempts where only we can see so that we don't have to catch on because only one of us is an actual rocket scientist.
I am particularly interested in committing internet genocide
in soviet gutter, New York somewhere in you

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Postby Col. Khaddafi » Sun Feb 03, 2013 4:53 am

Stardust, not so serious question: Do you think posting in this site, and particularly in this thread which has more often than not been too spammy for comfort, is liable to negatively effect your posting capabilities? And if so, what measures are you going to take for preventing such detrimental effects?
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Originally posted by Galspanic on MTGS
I would still like to see the posts sent over to ( N_S ) and have the Salvation Gutter archived away and replaced with a link to MTGC.
Thank you for all the lies. Another fine display of integrity by iridium :thumbsup:

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Postby Col. Khaddafi » Sun Feb 03, 2013 5:15 am

In total there are 13 users online :: 4 registered, 0 hidden and 9 guests (based on users active over the past 5 minutes)
Most users ever online was 75 on Sat Dec 22, 2012 3:11 am

guests just love this subforum
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Originally posted by Galspanic on MTGS
I would still like to see the posts sent over to ( N_S ) and have the Salvation Gutter archived away and replaced with a link to MTGC.
Thank you for all the lies. Another fine display of integrity by iridium :thumbsup:

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Postby Sir Sapphire the 3rd » Sun Feb 03, 2013 5:50 am

Most are seaking extra drama. and are starving like 3rd world countries
I just shit post and get blocked on the twatters

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Postby Pendulum » Sun Feb 03, 2013 6:05 am

Most are seaking extra drama. and are starving like 3rd world countries
We should oblige them as good hosts then, I think.

Who's everyone got on the SuperBowl?

I'm going with Budweiser as "most likely to make people cry."
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Postby Pendulum » Sun Feb 03, 2013 6:13 am

By which I mean me.
Assholes. They really know how to tug at the ol' heartstrings. Don't hold back either.
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Postby Pendulum » Sun Feb 03, 2013 6:18 am

Great now I'm crying.
Are you happy now, guests!?
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Postby Captain Murphy » Sun Feb 03, 2013 7:06 am

Pssshh american sports
It's too bad we don't have a secret subforum where we can coordinate troll attempts where only we can see so that we don't have to catch on because only one of us is an actual rocket scientist.
I am particularly interested in committing internet genocide
in soviet gutter, New York somewhere in you

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Postby FaheyUSMC » Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:34 am

Seems like a happenin' place. I didn't have time ot patience to edit out names or anything, sorry Nai. But I promised Pendulum I'd provide the log.

ArdentxofxMind 3:18 am
Okay, so why was I banned?

Teqoli 3:19 am
Because of the continuous posts that called out Teia that you made and then, after some time had passed, deleted.

ArdentxofxMind 3:19 am
You mean the one made...two days ago, I believe? The one deleted two minutes later?

Teqoli 3:20 am
There were at least two of them.
And they were up long enough for multiple people to notice and report them.

ArdentxofxMind 3:20 am
There was one. I deleted only one post between Thursday and today.

Teqoli 3:21 am
Odd, I have two of them right here in front of me.
Must have been made by another FaheyUSMC.

ArdentxofxMind 3:21 am
Paste them.

Teqoli 3:21 am
Oh this should be good...bitch be comin' into
his house and talkin' mad ****, yo...
Teia also argued previously that threads about masturbation and personal grooming habits were alright on these forums because kids "see worse in PG-13 movies", which was proven false and the admins didn't agree with that take. Not to derail, but it's been argued previously and disagreed with. Ignore it.

ArdentxofxMind 3:22 am
The second one, me. The first one lacks...well, to be honest, me.

Teqoli 3:22 am
Really?
I could screenshot it if you like.

ArdentxofxMind 3:22 am
No, I believe the first one came from my account.

ArdentxofxMind 3:23 am
When was the first post made?

Teqoli 3:23 am
02-01-2013.

ArdentxofxMind 3:23 am
Timestamp, please.

Teqoli 3:24 am
0514 GMT-6

ArdentxofxMind 3:24 am
0514 EST, CST...?

Teqoli 3:24 am
CST.

ArdentxofxMind 3:24 am
I'm...never up that early.

Teqoli 3:25 am
Frankly, it's seriously going to take a LOT more than that
to argue the point.

ArdentxofxMind 3:26 am
Considering I'm tryign to find a place to live, taking care of my grandmother while she hasa busted head and broken arm, and having to train these idiots in the Guard who don't listen? I would NOT be up at 0600 in the morning.
But please, find me some posts form the past two weeks when shit has hit the fan concerning RL in which I posted around that time. Please.

Teqoli 3:30 am
Whelp, here's the problem I have with that.
The IP addresses of both posts resolve to the same city.

ArdentxofxMind 3:31 am
Are the IPs for all my posts the exact same?

Teqoli 3:31 am
Of course not.

Teqoli 3:32 am
But I've now checked three different IPs that resolve to the same city.

ArdentxofxMind 3:32 am
All the same IP address?

Teqoli 3:32 am
No.
Three different and distinct IP addresses.
Just checked four different and distinct IP addresses. All the same city.

ArdentxofxMind 3:34 am
Three I
could understand. There are three separate connection in my house: two are T-Mobile tethered, the third being a Verizon DSL line.
A fourth says something is up.

Teqoli 3:34 am
I should mention.
You have some...
Uh.

ArdentxofxMind 3:34 am
GET OUT OF MY PORN FOLDER

Teqoli 3:34 am
200 IP addresses.

ArdentxofxMind 3:34 am
How recently on those?

Teqoli 3:35 am
That it doesn't tell me.

ArdentxofxMind 3:35 am
How often?

Teqoli 3:35 am
Also doesn't tell me.
I can't link the IP addresses to the posts unless I go from post-side.
I'm looking at all the IP addresses you've used while posting on this site.
I should mention that every time your phone gets connected to T-Mobile, it gets a new IP address.

ArdentxofxMind 3:35 am
Well that's fine, I can understand that. It might actually be from when I'm in Plymouth for a weekend or something.
No, I know it's static when I tether. That's intentional with
PDANet.

Teqoli 3:36 am
Your DSL line then.

ArdentxofxMind 3:36 am
I also set to register and authorize static IPs.

Teqoli 3:36 am
I know my DSL line used to cycle IPs a lot too.
/me shrugs.
At the end of the day, you have multiple posts made from the same location.
So if it wasn't you using the account at the time, it was someone at least in the same city as you.
So "it wasn't me" is not a good defense.

ArdentxofxMind 3:37 am
Or someone spoofing an IP.

ArdentxofxMind 3:38 am
As I said, find a post at that same time from the past few weeks and establish a link.
Just to be safe, find three of them.
For the record, what subforum was the first post under?

Teqoli 3:40 am
It can't be spoofed, I'm using an IP resolver which tell sme where that IP was last used from.
The first was in the thread Censorship in Higher Education in the Debate forum.

ArdentxofxMind 3:41 am
Is tha tthe only post I made in it?

n Teqoli 3:41 am
*sighs* does it actually matter?
I mean, be a devil's advocate for a second.
Anyone can post at a time they don't usually post at and argue 'I don't normally post at that time'.
If you saw a post from ME at roughly 12pm cst, I could use that same argument. No one would believe me since it's in the middle of the day. I just happen to be a nightowl.

ArdentxofxMind 3:42 am
Which I have accepted and also ackonwledge is a REALLY flimsy excuse.

ArdentxofxMind 3:42 am
Okay, now hear me out.
Why is it the post made at a time I don't post at is also a post that is bannable?

Teqoli 3:43 am
Because you made the post.

ArdentxofxMind 3:43 am
I did not.

Teqoli 3:43 am
We don't care what time it is.
We don't care if it's a thread you don't post in otherwise.
Or if it's a subforum you don't post in otherwise.
A post is made on your account, using IP addresses in ranges you use.
And that's all the staff
requires in order to process a ban when we've told you in the past that going after Teia will result in such an action.
If the IP addresses didn't match up? You'd have an argument.
But even if someone hacked your account, they'd have to live in the same city as you.

ArdentxofxMind 3:45 am
Or doctor any logs available. I'm not shitting you, I've known this was coming.

Teqoli 3:45 am
... Doctor logs.
On multiple websites.
That say that this IP was used at that time from that location.

ArdentxofxMind 3:45 am
Oh, so now you're checking "multiple sites".

Teqoli 3:45 am
I've -been- checking multiple sites for resolving these IPs.
The IPs that I"m checking? All used on MTGS.

ArdentxofxMind 3:46 am
What city?

Teqoli 3:46 am
But the sites I'm using to see where they resolve from?
Look, I'm not playing this game.
I'm looking at FOUR different IP addresses that resolve to the same place.

Teqoli 3:47
am
And I don't have prior knowledge of your city of residence, so any city I name, regardless of where you live, could be called 'not a place i"ve ever been'.
So, please, do'nt even try it.

ArdentxofxMind 3:47 am
What city. Just answer it.
PlayDevil's Advocate, like you asked me to.

Teqoli 3:48 am
Fine.
Norfolk, Virginia.

ArdentxofxMind 3:48 am
Would NOT be me. I live in Quincy, Massachusetts.

Teqoli 3:49 am
Well, see, here's the funny thing.
You said you were t-mobile tethering.
These guys are posting off a t-mobile tethered line.

ArdentxofxMind 3:49 am
Although to be fair, in 2006 I lived on NAB Little Creek, but that's Hampton Roads.

Teqoli 3:49 am
And I just did a test of my OWN phone.
Which is ALSO on t-mobile.
And it resolved to Nashville.
I live in New Orleans.
So apparently it's resolving to a nearby 4g hub.

ArdentxofxMind 3:50 am
Nearest for me would be in NYC.

Teqoli 3:
50 am
Then what you're tlling me is your account has been compromised no less than four times.

ArdentxofxMind 3:50 am
And for you, the cloest would actually be in Jacksonville, FL.

Teqoli 3:50 am
I'm telling you where my post just resolved to.
I literally JUST checked it.
And it resolved to Nashville.

ArdentxofxMind 3:50 am
I'm not denying you checked it.

ArdentxofxMind 3:51 am
What I am denying is making the first post. Any post I have ever made, I have come out and said, "Yeah, I made it." I have never lied and said, "No, I didn't make this post." I have been pretty fucking straightforward since Day 1.

Teqoli 3:54 am
Hrm. Got a better resolution as to the actual traceroute. one moemnt.
https://dazzlepod.com/ip/?ip_address=mb ... tmodns.net
So.

ArdentxofxMind 3:54 am
The second post I made
because I saw, once again, an excuse used previously by a moderator and wanted to point out the fact that said moderator had used that excuse previously and the administration of the site had denied it was a valid one. I resolved that saying "a moderator" would be grounds for violating the "request" to begin with, so I put it out there.

Teqoli 3:55 am
This is the traceroute for the post you made that you admit was you.

Teqoli 3:57 am
Bah, this one's giving two different answers.
https://dazzlepod.com/ip/?ip_address=208.54.36.223
Here's the one on the one you said isn't you. Check the traceroute.

ArdentxofxMind 3:57 am
Now, I'm not very good at land navigation.
In fact, I absolutely blow at it. I failed it during combat training. Couldn't find my way out of a wet paper bag back then.
But that does not look like the same location, good
sir.

Teqoli 3:58 am
Really?
Traceroute says Massechusettes.
I know the actual map says otherwise. That's why I said it's giving two different answers.
Look at the traceroutes.
Both are resolving to Massachusetts to me.
Checking your latest post now.
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showpost ... stcount=18
Is that post yours?

ArdentxofxMind 3:59 am
Yes.

Teqoli 3:59 am
Running it now.

ArdentxofxMind 3:59 am
Solid copy.

Teqoli 3:59 am
https://dazzlepod.com/ip/?ip_address=208.54.36.223
From here, that looks fairly identical to the second url.
I may wish to point out.

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Teqoli 4:00 am
You said you were using a forced static IP.
Both of those jumpt o a final static
layer.
If you read through the IP lists.
So, apparently, that Norfolk, Virginia was a hub of some sort that was messing with the initial reads.
The actual traceroutes are fairly positive, however.
My fault for not looking far enough down.
It STILL shows both posts coming from the same location.

Teqoli 4:03 am
I'm not sure how they number these hops, but i'll point out the final hops are in the same location as well.

ArdentxofxMind 4:03 am
Quite frankly, I'm just dropping it at this point. I just don't care. I stayed out of the drama for weeks because I couldn't take the stress, and I even fucking deleted a gimmick mail earlier that said admins had been talking about hijacking my account to get me banned.
I don't need the fucking stress, and quite frankly I just don't care at this point.

Teqoli 4:03 am
Amazing how that just comes up now.

ArdentxofxMind 4:04 am
No, I was talking about it on Community.

Teqoli 4:04 am
Oddly, I
don't follow that website.

ArdentxofxMind 4:04 am
I didn't bother to bring it up because I knew it would be denied one way or the other, and it didn't seem relevant. If it is what happened, then I expect that it was set in stone to begin with. I was fucked.

ArdentxofxMind 4:05 am
I didn't mention it to you because, quite frankly, I wanted to argue my position, and that position stands: I couldn't have made that post because I was not awake at the time. I told you to find posts around that time to validate your position, you gave a strawman instead of doing as I requested.
I played devil's advocate for you and gave you what you wanted. Congrats. You win,

Teqoli 4:05 am
No, I'm not going to do as you request.
Because, frankly, I value my time too much to go searching through 1000 posts in a bad search engine to find a post at that time.
Sadly, I can't search by 'time.

ArdentxofxMind 4:06 am
I just do not care at this point. You win, white flag,
I surrender. You can have your little circlejerk and suck each other off to your hearts' content.

Teqoli 4:06 am
Lovely. Glad to hear it.

ArdentxofxMind 4:06 am
Ignore that last post, I'm too tired right now.
I don't actually mean it, I'm too tired and angry to care, to an extent, about what I say.

Teqoli 4:07 am
Basically, I"m going to ignore it because i ignore it anytime someone goes off on me.
But I do need to make a point:
Being too tired and too angry to care isn't an excuse when making posts like that.
You're an adult. You can restrain yourself.

ArdentxofxMind 4:08 am
No, I know it isn't. I apologize, it was wrong.
The point stands, I haven't lied about any frakking thing to date about this, and was willing to go the extra mile to make up for a lot of the problems I caused. I wasn't taken up on it, so...whatever.

Teqoli 4:09 am
Here's the problem I have right now.
You're telling me you're never up at that
time.
Right now?
It's 3 am.
CST.
So it's kind of hard to believe you're never ever up two hours from now.
It's also extremely hard to believe that the same series of events repeated itself twice and didn't have the same cause.

ArdentxofxMind 4:11 am
I'd point out that it's a Sunday, not a Friday and I'm really only up right now because we're having this discussion. Otherwise, my ass would be up in bed, reading before I fell asleep.

Teqoli 4:11 am
I'm willing to go the extra mile to keep people from being banned and get them unbanned. You've gotten an hour of my time and and my own work to give you time to do that.

ArdentxofxMind 4:11 am
Believe it or not, I am thankful for that.

Teqoli 4:11 am
So do forgive me if I don't have sympathy for your upset or weariness.

ArdentxofxMind 4:11 am
Never asked for any.
Do whatever, I really do not care at this point.

ArdentxofxMind 4:14 am
I'm just pointing out that the way
that post is worded, it's not me. The timing of the post is not me, especially on a Thursday/Friday. If you can prove otherwise, go right ahead. But as of this moment, I don't expect anything.

Teqoli 4:15 am
The problem is that timing isn't a good enough defense.

ArdentxofxMind 4:16 am
And mentioning "OMG CONSPIRACY!!!!!" would have been better? I decided to make an argument on my own merits rather than fall back on that.

Teqoli 4:16 am
No, it wouldn't have been.

ArdentxofxMind 4:16 am
My point. I'd rather make an argument using the facts and evience available to me, rather than make a claim that can't be substantiated, and quite frankly would have looked silly.

Teqoli 4:17 am
I work as a devil's advocate for this website, and I'm having trouble thinking of any real argument you could make that WOULD be a good defense.

ArdentxofxMind 4:17 am
That's my point. I can't win it.

Teqoli 4:17 am
Because my own IP work (and I
admit I'm a novice at it) shows that it wasn't a hijacked account.

ArdentxofxMind 4:18 am
*Shrugs* As I said, I can't win. If someone were to doctor logs or whatever (and I'll a dmit I'm nothing when ti comes to IP traceroutes and shit) or use a proxy it'd be damn near impossible to tell.

ArdentxofxMind 4:22 am
I'm going to bed either way. I don't expect this to be resolved in my favor.

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Postby Shalako » Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:42 am

Rhode Island, United States and Virginia, United States Are the same place? What the fuck did I just read?
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Postby Kaitscralt » Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:35 pm

I wish someone would talk to me on AIM.
Standard hobos who play budget garbage should be looked upon with suspicion.

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Postby Kaitscralt » Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:39 pm

Did I really just see an extensive conversation showing an adult admitting he is cyber stalking someone for posting some harmless shit to some dude who wants to be a girl?
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Postby Captain Murphy » Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:42 pm

Waste of time, it was like they were 2 spastics trying to fuck a doorknob in that chat
It's too bad we don't have a secret subforum where we can coordinate troll attempts where only we can see so that we don't have to catch on because only one of us is an actual rocket scientist.
I am particularly interested in committing internet genocide
in soviet gutter, New York somewhere in you

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Postby Captain Murphy » Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:43 pm

I wish someone would talk to me on AIM.
You never want to send me a message either
It's too bad we don't have a secret subforum where we can coordinate troll attempts where only we can see so that we don't have to catch on because only one of us is an actual rocket scientist.
I am particularly interested in committing internet genocide
in soviet gutter, New York somewhere in you

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Postby Captain Murphy » Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:43 pm

Bad usernames too
It's too bad we don't have a secret subforum where we can coordinate troll attempts where only we can see so that we don't have to catch on because only one of us is an actual rocket scientist.
I am particularly interested in committing internet genocide
in soviet gutter, New York somewhere in you


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