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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:53 am

Isn't UW kinda bad against RG Aggro? I haven't played the match, but I feel like Heir, Yasova and Stormbreath are problematic. They also have extra threaten effects, wild slash and back to nature post board.

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Postby Valdarith » Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:58 am

I didn't even know RG aggro was a thing, and that's saying something considering how my meta almost always flocks to those strategies.
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Postby Kaitscralt » Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:00 am

zem knows the week one meta

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Postby Kaitscralt » Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:01 am

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Postby zemanjaski » Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:01 am

Isn't UW kinda bad against RG Aggro? I haven't played the match, but I feel like Heir, Yasova and Stormbreath are problematic. They also have extra threaten effects, wild slash and back to nature post board.
It's slightly better than even for UW heroic if both players are competent.
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Postby zemanjaski » Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:11 am

zem knows the week one meta

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I expected like 20% RG, not 40%!
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Postby zemanjaski » Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:13 am

UW is such a Zem deck. Zemmers they're called, I believe.

Play something with Siege Rhino, Zem.

Weren't you pushing some UB deck during the Season of Rev? Now UB is actually viable. Play that.

Frontier Siege seems to be hot right now. Go siege some frontiers. Preferably with rhinos.
Your memory fails you, I played a deck called "Boros Burn" you might've heard of it? I wrote some articles about it too, they were somewhat popular on the interwebs.
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Postby zemanjaski » Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:15 am

It's definitely fair criticism to point out I tend towards underpowered tempo decks.
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Postby LP, of the Fires » Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:16 am

RG agro is dece. I was playing pick up games with it before tourney started last night. Great choice if you expect a bunch of control or if ever the meta is just soft to fliers.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby LP, of the Fires » Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:17 am

There's also the swag version featuring 2 card combo kill:


2 Xenagos, God of Revels
1 Atarka, World Render
1 Polukranos, World Eater
3 Yasova Dragonclaw
3 Boon Satyr
4 Elvish Mystic
4 Rattleclaw Mystic
4 Flamewake Phoenix
4 Ashcloud Phoenix
4 Stormbreath Deagon


4 Crater's Claw
2 Collateral Damage

4 Temple of Abandon
4 Wooded Foothills
4 Mana Confluence
6 Forest
6 Mountain
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Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby zemanjaski » Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:26 am

Ah didn't think you meant back that far! That deck was actually really good and saw a lot of play at the world champs.
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Postby zemanjaski » Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:27 am

Rev wasn't the dominate card that it was six month later at that time.
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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:29 am

Isn't RW Aggro > RG Aggro?

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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:30 am

Because C2R?

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Postby LP, of the Fires » Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:36 am

RW agro is a tier 1 deck.

RG agro is a deck with a bunch of good cards that also happens to be moderately inconsistent and asks a lot more questions in deck building.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby LP, of the Fires » Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:37 am

And RG doesn't have the infinite free wins you get from playing rabblemaster and quality removal.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby zemanjaski » Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:39 am

Yeah I feel RW is the better of the two.
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Postby Kaitscralt » Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:39 am

Rhino Siege 1WBG

Enchantment

As Rhino Siege enters the battlefield, choose Siege or Rhino.

If you chose Siege, at the beginning of your upkeep, target opponent loses 3 life and you gain 3 life.
If you chose Rhino, at the beginning of your upkeep, put a 4/5 Rhino token with trample onto the battlefield.
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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Thu Jan 29, 2015 5:45 am

Anyone else tried Sam Black's new Howl of the Horde deck? Shit's seriously fun and actually pretty good.

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Postby Kaitscralt » Thu Jan 29, 2015 5:48 am

So if you attack with a Rhino, then when you cast your next Rhino, you get two extra Rhino tokens?
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Postby Kaitscralt » Thu Jan 29, 2015 5:48 am

sweet
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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Thu Jan 29, 2015 5:50 am

No, it's abusing Collateral Damage and Tormenting Voice.

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Postby LP, of the Fires » Thu Jan 29, 2015 7:01 am

Collateral damage is a pretty sweet card.

It's very bad, but it's great from a design and deckbuilding perspective because it rewards you for building with it correctly and punishes you VERY badly for just throwing it in a random red deck.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby LP, of the Fires » Thu Jan 29, 2015 7:03 am

Like in the RG deck I posted there's like, a ton of good uses for the card. Threatens, sacking dead mana dorks, saving your phoenixs from exile affects, sacking tapped creatures with boon satyr for removal+surprise blocker to name a few.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby Kaitscralt » Thu Jan 29, 2015 12:51 pm

Like in the RG deck I posted there's like
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Postby Valdarith » Thu Jan 29, 2015 2:34 pm

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I have the memory of a rhino.
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Postby Kaitscralt » Thu Jan 29, 2015 2:40 pm

Someone sieged the siege I sieged
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Postby Purp » Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:03 pm

Jsilvs article: "Abzan persists: The more things change, the more Rhinos stay the same."

He is an FoSer whether he wants to admit it or not.
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Postby Kaitscralt » Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:08 pm

More like he is a DTR'er

Rhino meme started outside this thread

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Postby Kaitscralt » Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:08 pm

But still, good on him
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Postby Purp » Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:14 pm

I only visit the Aggressive Standard, EDH and FoS threads on this website..
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Postby Kaitscralt » Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:16 pm

you're doing yourself a great disservice and us a great service
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Postby Col. Khaddafi » Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:43 pm

you're doing yourself a great disservice and us a great service
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Originally posted by Galspanic on MTGS
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Postby Valdarith » Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:01 pm

If a rhino sieges in the woods and no one is around to see it, did it actually siege?
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Postby Purp » Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:10 pm

Is the glass half empty or full siege rhino?
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Postby Mcdonalds » Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:21 pm

Siege me once, shame on you, siege me twice, siege rhino

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Postby Col. Khaddafi » Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:24 pm

I believe Kait pulled that one a few posts ago.
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Postby Purp » Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:46 pm

I believe Kait pulled that Siege a few Rhinos ago.
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Postby Kaitscralt » Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:54 pm

you are my siege rhino
my only siege rhino
you make me 4/5
when skies are gray
you'll never know dear
how much i love you
please don't siege my siege rhino away
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