[Fedoras of Salvation] - White Knights ITT

[Khaospawn]

According to the M15 sleeves, it appears that Pyromaster is getting reprinted, Liliana, Ajani, and Jace are back. And what's this? Nissa is the green walker? Wow.

[DroppinSuga]

NIIISSAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!

[Khaospawn]

My phone wants to autocorrect it to Nissan.

[Khaospawn]

So when you use her ultimate ability, is she a Nissan Ultima?

[hamfactorial]

[Dechs Kaison]

[Purp]

Yay Chandra is back

[Dechs Kaison]

Jaya really needs to be printed as a walker.

[magicdownunder]

One of the older video which I left in the back-log, I still have one left (the newer videos will hopefully be up next week):

The Banning really hurt Stoneforge Mystic:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIFtZbRcV2c

[Alex]

This is also ironic come from the guy playing G/R monsters, a deck which hasn't placed at any event since probably before jou came out.

I'm playing Jund, I did play GR at an IQ though. It clubs control like a baby seal.

[zemanjaski]

Jund is tier 1.5; probably the 5th best deck in the format. GR isn't a deck.

[Dechs Kaison]

I guess what he's saying is: Alex doesn't play Real Magic.

[zemanjaski]

I'm saying he handicaps himself. Alex is a fine player.

[TBuzzsaw]

Watching bad players give bad advice to other bad players is like looking at a car wreck:

"I don't know how black devotion works, what do I need to make it good?"
"Master of Feasts because it's big and beats the control decks early before they can kill you."
"Wow it's so good, yeah I have problem with control, this will help SO much."

[RedNihilist]

http://thetexastheatre.com/wp-content/u ... 143716.jpg

[magicdownunder]

Thank Goodness, Chandra, Pyromaster has been confirm by Sally as a M15 reprint.

[Platypus]

It was expected. Core Set PWs usually are in two sets.

[Khaospawn]

Holy shit, Nissan is actually really fucking good.

[Khaospawn]

I mean, as far as Green planeswalkers go.

[Platypus]

But man...is that new "Kird Ape" disappointing! I was hoping for something Flinthoof Boar-playable to be able to play Gruul Aggro for old times sake before the rotation...

Souped up Hill Giant...bleargh!

[Khaospawn]

It's not really Kird Ape? Sad face. I haven't had time to check it so I'll just take your word for it.

[Platypus]

No, it's not Kird Ape. The whole cycle was revealed today: http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/ar ... 2014-06-25

[TBuzzsaw]

The white and green ones are the only ones constructed playable.

Sorta.

[Khaospawn]

Laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame.

[Valdarith]

I tried to tell you all...

And Nissa is actually insane. Green devotion could be much better than blue devotion ever was now.

[Platypus]

I tried to tell you all...

Yeah...we didn't listen.

I didn't expect Kird Ape, but I was hoping for something playable outside of Limited.

[Valdarith]

Mono black, mono blue, esper, u/w would be my guess.

[Midnight_v]

I tried to tell you all...

Yeah...we didn't listen.

I didn't expect Kird Ape, but I was hoping for something playable outside of Limited.

Yeah they.... I guess they're still pushing g/w. One of the things done to appease certain pros.
So the White 1 is pretty good, and the red one... *shrug*

[DroppinSuga]

So Nissa turns lands into creatures for good. That ought to make for some hilarious scenarios.

[Khaospawn]

Mono black, mono blue, esper, u/w would be my guess.

Boros Burn > Esper

[Valdarith]

Boros Burn beats Esper, but it is not a better deck in the meta at large. Much the same way that Burn isn't better than Jund Monsters.

If we want to lump Esper and U/W together, I don't mind putting Burn in the top 5, but it's certainly not ahead of the other four decks mentioned.

[Khaospawn]

Um, Burn just won a GP.

[Khaospawn]

Burn is definitely better than Jund Monsters. It's easier than playing against RG Monsters because they shock the shit out of themselves.

[Khaospawn]

The big players are: B/x, U/W/x, Monsters variants, Mono U, and R/x (including Burn and Boss Sligh decks).

[Khaospawn]

Anybody would have to be half braindead to not expect those 5 archetypes going into any tournament.

[Alex]

Burn is definitely better than Jund Monsters. It's easier than playing against RG Monsters because they shock the shit out of themselves.

That's why I played RG. The consistent mana was the prime reason. Around here, there is a lot of UWx and mono black. I don't like shocking myself against devotion, and Ghor-Clan is pretty good against them, even as a creature. They also can't deal with Xenagod. UWx is just about not running into a million Celestial Flares. Having more mana dorks helps you avoid that.

RG isn't a real deck either, but I chose the right time to play it. Got my invitation with it, so no complaints.

[Alex]

There is literally no R/x decks around here, I'm the only one who really plays red decks. The IQ I was at was 62 people, there was no red based aggro, but 22 UWx decks and 18 devotion to black variants.

[Khaospawn]

Just cuz there are no Mountains in Florida doesn't mean they don't exist in great numbers elsewhere.


This is me trying to sound all like Confucius and shit.

[Khaospawn]

Alex, if I were to ever play a Monsters deck, it'd be RG for the very reasons you mentioned.