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Postby Valdarith » Sat Feb 08, 2014 3:34 am

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Postby zemanjaski » Sat Feb 08, 2014 4:15 am

I just went 0-2 drop at fnm, completely scrubbed out.

I'm just sorta out of it, both physically and mentally. Hell, I even forgot to wear the narwhal hat at all, and I had it with me.


I feel terrible right now... I'm honestly thinking about dropping magic for a long time, cause I'm just not having fun right now for some reason... Maybe just focus on casual formats for a while... i don't know.

I feel like scrumper... 
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Postby TubeHunter » Sat Feb 08, 2014 4:42 am

5!
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Postby zemanjaski » Sat Feb 08, 2014 4:48 am

That was definitely a 2.
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Postby DarthStabber » Sat Feb 08, 2014 4:50 am

5!
I was thinking 4, the line can be narrow.
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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Sat Feb 08, 2014 4:55 am

Happy Birthday DS!

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Postby DarthStabber » Sat Feb 08, 2014 4:56 am

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Postby zemanjaski » Sat Feb 08, 2014 5:02 am

Yo, Happy Birthday Stabber.
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Postby Kazekirimaru » Sat Feb 08, 2014 5:03 am

Birthday!

You were born on this day some odd years ago!

Celerbrate this day, for it is the anniversary of your birth!

Eat cake! And other bad stuff! For the best way to celebrate your life is to consume things harmful to it!

Here's to many more anniversaries of birth in the future!
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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Sat Feb 08, 2014 6:19 am

I just went 0-2 drop at fnm, completely scrubbed out.

I'm just sorta out of it, both physically and mentally. Hell, I even forgot to wear the narwhal hat at all, and I had it with me.


I feel terrible right now... I'm honestly thinking about dropping magic for a long time, cause I'm just not having fun right now for some reason... Maybe just focus on casual formats for a while... i don't know.

I feel like scrumper... 
Let me give you some advice, because I've been there. Christ knows, I'm there now. This is going to be a novel, so brace yourself.

The first time I hit a wall like the one you're describing, I sold all my cards, took a huge loss and rage quit. I started playing 40k which was a creative and competitive
outlet, so I was satisfied. My buddy got into it too, and it was fun for a while. Unfortunately, I was the only "spike" and I crushed my friends everytime, and I completely poisoned the environment with my competitiveness. Eventually none of us wanted to play anymore. Seeing as I had 10,000 points worth of Dark Angels, that was another financial blow.

Then my best friend's dad was diagnosed with terminal cancer. His dad was the one that taught us to play magic, and most of my pleasant memories from high school (that aren't girl or car related) are playing magic at his kitchen table. He was also a notorious tilter who would bend your cards when reading them (a fifty year old man) if he didn't like what they did, but that's another story. He didn't have long, so I talked to my other buddy (not the one whose dad was dying) and we decided that we would start playing magic again so our friend wouldn't have to choose between spending time with him dad and us. Eventually, my friend (whose dad
was dying) confided that he needed some time away from the situation to escape, so we started going to FNM.

I graduated from university, and couldn't find work, so I took a job in the UK. Long story short, it didn't work out, but I played magic there too, at the only place in London, The Games Club. There I was consistently in last place with 0-4 draft decks every week, because I was playing with GB's national team. There were so many levels ahead of me I couldn't possibly compete. I read articles and could eventually identify which cards were the best in the set (Zendikar) etc. but they still pushed me into UG and roflstomped me every week. I got very frustrated, but I kept going until I decided to leave the UK. I didn't realize it at the time, but I did learn a lot by losing. Unfortunately my friend's dad passed away while I was in the UK.

When I got back, my buddy wanted to pick up where we left off, and I like to think it helped take his mind off his dad's passing. We had leveled up. We
were winning FNMs and Saturday tournaments. I top 4'd a 200 player tournament for a Mox with R/b Aggro. Those were good times. Unfortunately I still couldn't find a job, my girlfriend left me and my parents kicked me out of the house because they mistook my inability to find work with an unwillingness to work. I found a company in Japan that was willing to hire me, and I was living in Japan a month later.

I brought my Magic cards with me, and my first weekend here, my priority was to find places that sold magic and places to play. Unfortunately for my first three months in Japan I couldn't find a place to play and had no friends. I literally just worked, slept and wasted time on the internet. I kept up with magic (ordering cards and having them sent to me) for Worldwake Standard, but then I realized it was dumb, since I have noone to play with. When I went home at Christmas, I took my cards with me, put them in a box in the closet, and left them there.

Fast Forward two years, and I moved to a
bigger city. I found friends that played magic, and stores that sold magic and had places to play. I threw together a budget deck and started playing standard again. The next time I went home I opened the dusty box of cards and found that many of my cards (Fetches, Goyfs, Thoughtseizes, Mystics etc.) had more than doubled in price. I sold the cards I didn't think I wanted to play with anymore and updated my decks and payed for my flight with the change.

That is when I really became competitive. I started playing a lot, playing in bigger events and my first GP. I hit a wall in the form of a falling out with a couple of forum members and quit the forum until I won a GPT and came back to share my list and experience because I thought it might help other people. But around the time of Dragon's maze standard, I hit another wall. It lasted all of DGM and M14 standard. I couldn't win a single game. I felt frustrated and ready to rage quit, but I kept with it. I was very disappointed with my result at my
second GP, because it wasn't an improvement over my record at my first GP in spite of testing for 8 hours every night for a month beforehand.

Theros came out, and the set was very kind to me. I found my groove again and started winning quite a bit ( I also had a great mentor / collaborator in the form of MDU, :love: ya bro, no homo) . I did very well in my third GP, then won a local open with an undefeated record. Then another wall. I've been in a slump since then where I just can't seem to do anything right. I entered a PTQ where I got all my bad matchups and scrubbed out, and my friend who is the worst player in our group got every good matchup he could hope for and won the invite. I felt frustrated. I still feel frustrated, but I'm not going to give up.

The point of my magic life story here is to illustrate a point.

When you hit a wall, you have three options.

1) Ragequit. Sell your cards and do
something else. If you're anything like me, you'll probably still come back to it some day and regret it (I sold my entire collection which would be worth close to $5000 for $600 on eBay :no:)

2) Box your cards and take a break. They'll collect dust, but they'll be there when you're ready to get back on the horse. I think this is useful sometimes, especially if you just take a week or two off. That's how long it usually takes me to remember this is something I love doing.

3) Hulk-Out. Use your frustration. The first time I really hit a wall since I became seriously competitive was when I had my falling out with the forum and quit. I felt like Vegeta in Dragonball Z..

Here, for reference:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BW7_fr3_yDE

I started rage grinding, just because I wanted to prove myself worthy of the other members of FoS. I played and played, and played.
When I would lose, I would just play the person again until I beat them. I wouldn't go to bed unless I had just won a match. Using that negative energy allowed me to smash the wall to rubble. The same thing happened to me that happened to Vegeta in that clip. I didn't care anymore. I didn't care what my friends, or the forum thought of me. I was just going to sit down confidently, play my deck and grind out wins. If I didn't win, I would ask to play another game for fun between rounds. But it wasn't about fun, it was about using what I had learned from the first game to beat my opponent in subsequent games. All I cared about was being the best I could be. I didn't care where that placed me in comparison to others. That was when I won the GPT, and came back to FoS with my head held high. I finally had something worth contributing, and I had demonstrated my commitment to getting better. I felt vindicated.

Now however, I'm back to the training room. I'm trying to push myself to find that next level,
and I'm getting frustrated. I'm trying to find that "I don't care anymore" attitude again, desperately. These things come in waves. We all have good days and bad days, cold streaks and hot streaks. You have to learn to just focus on you. God knows, I struggle with it, but that's where we need to be.

I see a lot of potential in you Raida. To quote a flavour text;

"You're just like me: ruthless, cunning, and ambitious. Obviously you're a threat."

I hope you won't choose option one.

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Postby Jack » Sat Feb 08, 2014 7:10 am

Happy birthday, DS.
LP: It's a balmy 38.5 degrees Fahrenheit in my house. Still waiting to get the power back. At least you can go inside and forget about the rain.
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Postby magicdownunder » Sat Feb 08, 2014 7:15 am

That was a good read J_S and I must thank you for the Dragonball Z reference (DB:Z was my high-school morning ritual) :D.

I use to play MAGIC exclusively during FNM, during that period I was so bad at magic I didn't really care what my results were (it was just for fun) after I hit uni and ran out of time to play FNM regularly so I started to play online which drastically improve my skills to the point where I made National 2009 (I still have my Magic: national shirt).

From that point onward I stopped seeing magic as something I just did for fun but something I prided myself in (which was the start of my downfall) I took every loss personally and I keep on playing negatively, Magic just didn't feel fun anymore.

Lucky for me my Exam period started so I had to take a break, after I finish and return to magic I started enjoying the game
for the game sake again - thus from then on whenever I lose an event I'll just walk away from the computer and come back later.

Fast forward to the Zendikar block, I got to a point where I playing Magic online completely for free (though nowadays I hate playing RL cause I reckon people 'cheat' to an extent with shuffling) .

The point I'm trying to make is that RaidaTheBlade recently took 1st place finish in a large event, I assume that made him quite happy so now the usual results are not enough to satisfy him - thus I think he just need to step back rethink things then try again fresh (he may notice that building an Aggro list with 8 MD removals cause you run out of gas or that building a list for a GP meta when your playing FNM places things out of context).
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Postby Jack » Sat Feb 08, 2014 7:24 am

Raida: take a break from competitive if you're not feeling it. We won't think any less of you :)
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Postby magicdownunder » Sat Feb 08, 2014 7:59 am

Not sure why I never noticed, but Freedom are you also an Australian?
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Postby TBuzzsaw » Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:59 am

6 out of 8 decks in the Top 8 tonight was control, not including all the ones that weren't in. Everyone else was trying Gruul ramp. I got 3rd tonight with UW Devotion, and was the only Blue Devo tonight too. Surprisingly only one Black Devo tonight.

Looks like a good time to sleeve up Red at my store, although I still won 3rd without it. STG Nashville will determine how my meta will shift since everyone seems to be lemmings.
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Postby Alex » Sat Feb 08, 2014 10:03 am

Went 5-0 playing Walter White, 2-0'd every round. I felt like I was preying on unrefined decks playing new Born of the Gods cards. It wasn't much fun.

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Postby magicdownunder » Sat Feb 08, 2014 10:08 am

Only the first week guys, things should improve (remember THS? GW placed well in many SGC events).
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Postby Alex » Sat Feb 08, 2014 10:14 am

I literally didn't add any BNG cards to WW. I couldn't think of any reason to bother.

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Postby RedNihilist » Sat Feb 08, 2014 12:15 pm

Stabber! Happy bday here too!

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Postby LaZerBurn » Sat Feb 08, 2014 1:43 pm

Happy Birthday DS! :)
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Postby DroppinSuga » Sat Feb 08, 2014 2:28 pm

No invaders!
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No trolls!
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Postby Jack » Sat Feb 08, 2014 3:48 pm

Not sure why I never noticed, but Freedom are you also an Australian?
Only in Khaos's movie.
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Postby redthirst » Sat Feb 08, 2014 4:20 pm

Freedom is - by definition - 'Murican.
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Originally posted by Dechs Kaison on MTGS
redthirst is redthirst, fifth Horseman of the Apocalypse. He was the leader of the Fires of Salvation, the only clan I'm aware of to get modded off the forums so hard they made their own forums.

Degenerate? Sure. Loudmouth? You bet. Law abiding? No ****ing way.

Great guy to have around? Hell yes.
I love the D...

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Postby redthirst » Sat Feb 08, 2014 4:27 pm

Raida: play some strictly casual formats for a while or just take up another game. I've regularly gotten burned out on Magic to greater or lesser degrees and that's always been my solution. There are plenty of games and plenty of ways to play out there.
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Originally posted by Dechs Kaison on MTGS
redthirst is redthirst, fifth Horseman of the Apocalypse. He was the leader of the Fires of Salvation, the only clan I'm aware of to get modded off the forums so hard they made their own forums.

Degenerate? Sure. Loudmouth? You bet. Law abiding? No ****ing way.

Great guy to have around? Hell yes.
I love the D...

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Postby redthirst » Sat Feb 08, 2014 4:29 pm

Oh, and Stabber, happy B-Day! Go get you some celebration D!
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Originally posted by Dechs Kaison on MTGS
redthirst is redthirst, fifth Horseman of the Apocalypse. He was the leader of the Fires of Salvation, the only clan I'm aware of to get modded off the forums so hard they made their own forums.

Degenerate? Sure. Loudmouth? You bet. Law abiding? No ****ing way.

Great guy to have around? Hell yes.
I love the D...

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Postby windstrider » Sat Feb 08, 2014 4:43 pm

Happy birthday, stabber!

@Raida -- Or you can always play a budget deck for fun for a while.
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Postby DerWille » Sat Feb 08, 2014 5:07 pm

Happy birthday Stabber.

I went to FNM draft last night, going 3-1 for the night and got 5th. It was a bit different than usual as it's suppose to be BNG, BNG, THS for the packs. Played a red/blue deck with a ton of removal but not so much in the way of creatures. I 2-0'd everyone I won against but lost 0-2. Tie breakers got me.

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Postby DarthStabber » Sat Feb 08, 2014 5:31 pm

Thanks guys.
@Raida: trade secret, the reason commander/edh is so popular even amongst the competitive crowd is the same fatigue you are experiencing. Bust out some weird concept deck with a funky commander choice. Or try another format, pauper is great for dislodging the cobwebs and is a surprisingly deep and rewarding format, both on mtgo and paper (though it is not an officially sanctioned paper format). Or just tool up a neat casual deck, might I recommend raised by wolves as a fun starting point (it's hilarious to see a wolf raised by wolves).
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You do need to try to gay it up a little more.

You're like the least gay member of this clan.

And that's counting the fact that you voluntarily have sex with men.

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Postby Khaospawn » Sat Feb 08, 2014 6:07 pm

Raida - disregard other Magic formats. Acquire the MegaManX collection. Beat all 6 games. Return to Magic refreshed.

Lather, rinse, repeat.
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Postby Khaospawn » Sat Feb 08, 2014 6:08 pm

Happy birthday, DS.
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Postby Self Medicated » Sat Feb 08, 2014 6:53 pm

Happy berfday stabber!

In other news, mass amounts of water are now falling from the sky. I believe the technical term is, "rainin' like a mothafucka". Having a cup of coffee whilst on the laptop and listening to the rain is on my list of top 5 favorite things.
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Postby Valdarith » Sat Feb 08, 2014 7:46 pm

Happy birthday stabber!

BBD's Bant Walkers list is doing sick work so far, and Brad Nelson is currently live playing R/W Burn vs Black Devotion.

EDIT: it's actually a round 1 replay.
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Postby NerdBoyWonder » Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:13 pm

Happy bday Stabber!
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Postby Kazekirimaru » Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:17 pm

FFVI came in the mail! And my memory card has not, in fact, been rendered useless. I'm already hooked.

Between this and Hearthstone, I may vanish into the abyss completely. D:
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Postby Kazekirimaru » Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:18 pm

Like, I've been up for roughly nine hours and I'm just now getting around to eating food.
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Postby DocLawless » Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:26 pm

Happy birthday, DS.
Like, I've been up for roughly nine hours and I'm just now getting around to eating food.
I know those feels. It's like "I needs to shower, but I'm not going to until being clean becomes strictly better than this game, which could take a while."
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Postby Platypus » Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:36 pm

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Postby Kaitscralt » Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:37 pm

Happy berfday stabber!

In other news, mass amounts of water are now falling from the sky. I believe the technical term is, "rainin' like a mothafucka". Having a cup of coffee whilst on the laptop and listening to the rain is on my list of top 5 favorite things.
what are the other four
Standard hobos who play budget garbage should be looked upon with suspicion.

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Postby rcwraspy » Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:45 pm

happy birthday stabber!
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