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Postby Valdarith » Fri Jan 17, 2014 1:48 am

Remand is so baller in those kind of decks. But you definitely want some number of Mana Leak in the list. I like three. Four Remand is too many in a list without Young Pyromancer.
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Postby Wraith223 » Fri Jan 17, 2014 1:55 am

Mana Leak is much better than Remand. What the hell?
Tron decks don't care. There are 2 I regularly deal with. Boooooooo!

I might keep 3 remand and one mana leak for one Runechanter Pike. What makes Remand so good is the draw condition.
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Postby LP, of the Fires » Fri Jan 17, 2014 1:57 am

Remand is amazing. You don't need to counter the spell, you just need to set them behind on tempo while cantriping.

You play GoST ffs.
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Postby hamfactorial » Fri Jan 17, 2014 1:58 am

My understanding is that a deck with a fast clock (such as the one GoST provides) will get more value out of the extra card that Remand gives you. If I've not learned some fundamental Magic lesson, please tell me so I don't make bad card choices when building control decks.

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Postby Jack » Fri Jan 17, 2014 2:29 am

Remand is usually fine because, until the game gets really long, your spells are really only good if you can cast them when you want to. This is especially true vs. aggro decks. Say you're playing against Soul Sisters. They're on the draw, and lead with a turn 1 sister. They have a Spectral Procession and Ajani's Pridemate in hand. This is one of the 2 best starts that the deck is capable of. However, if you Remand the Pridemate, you've done enough to stop their plan, since they probably won't drop it until turn 4, since Procession is usually the better turn 3 play. (after all, they want to keep their life total as high as possible for Ascendant topdecks, and you've just threatened them with a Geist).
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Postby Jack » Fri Jan 17, 2014 2:35 am

Actually, disregard that. Remand sucks, shouldn't cost $15, and freedom needs two more copies for Blue Tron. I'll take them off your hands for $5 before the price plummets when people realize that they're bad.
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Postby hamfactorial » Fri Jan 17, 2014 3:09 am

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Postby Wraith223 » Fri Jan 17, 2014 3:59 am

Actually, disregard that. Remand sucks, shouldn't cost $15, and freedom needs two more copies for Blue Tron. I'll take them off your hands for $5 before the price plummets when people realize that they're bad.
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Postby DarthStabber » Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:00 am

Remand sucks, shouldn't cost $15
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Postby Purp » Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:31 am

I got you JS, PM me what you'd like, I'll make it at work tomorrow.
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Postby DarthStabber » Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:35 am

I'm digging out my remands, with the current price tag they're nearly a draft each.
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Postby NerdBoyWonder » Fri Jan 17, 2014 6:13 am

So the Lion King was printed as a card...
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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Fri Jan 17, 2014 6:20 am

So the Lion King was printed as a card...
I know right? Looks really annoying too.reminds me of hero of bladehold, but more defensive.

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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Fri Jan 17, 2014 6:22 am

I got you JS, PM me what you'd like, I'll make it at work tomorrow.
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Postby zemanjaski » Fri Jan 17, 2014 6:34 am

Fated Infatuation oooooh.
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Postby NerdBoyWonder » Fri Jan 17, 2014 6:41 am

So the Lion King was printed as a card...
I know right? Looks really annoying too.reminds me of hero of bladehold, but more defensive.
That card shocked the hell out of me. 3/4 body for cmc3 with an offensive and defensive ability. Would love him in the sideboard for Big Boros to bring in against aggro
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Postby Helios » Fri Jan 17, 2014 6:45 am

Yea I was less than pleased to see yet another pushed white creature. Like...seriously? 3/4 with Vigilance for 3? With card text? Ugh.
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Postby zemanjaski » Fri Jan 17, 2014 6:54 am

Lucky I am playing a doom blade deck this season? 3/4 for 3? Doom Blade!

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Postby Kazekirimaru » Fri Jan 17, 2014 7:08 am

Kinda pumped about this season. Which is weird because it's Standard.
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Postby DarthStabber » Fri Jan 17, 2014 7:16 am

I love raised by wolves! Not a great card, but so cool. I've been mulling over a wolf token casual deck for a while, and this is just the thing I need for [card]wren's run packmaster[/card] to push it over the edge. Also the spoiler video is awesome http://loadingreadyrun.com/videos/view/ ... oiler-Card, pretty much my exact thoughts when I saw the card (only I pictured an elf not a cat).

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Postby Kazekirimaru » Fri Jan 17, 2014 7:23 am

Tolsimir Wolfblood and Watchwolf are calling me from my casual box.
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Postby RaidaTheBlade » Fri Jan 17, 2014 7:26 am

Kinda pumped about this season. Which is weird because it's Standard.
I'm looking forward to it too, though it gets a bit old having mbc being the big bad for so long.
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Postby Kazekirimaru » Fri Jan 17, 2014 7:27 am

Ohh, it's because of Black that I'm excited >:)
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Postby RaidaTheBlade » Fri Jan 17, 2014 7:32 am

:shrug: Like I said, it's gets boring facing the same stuff all the time.
That's why I like my lgs, there's a lot of competitive players running t1 decks, but i also get to play against random brews and have fun games against weird things.

I mean, last week I went up against a g/w aggro and at one point he had 41 life to my 1, and I managed to win. Or the r/u/g deck where game 3 we played speed-magic cause we were running out of time, and just had a removal-fest that went slow despite our best efforts.


But when the 'top-deck' stays the same so long, it just gets a bit boring at bigger tournies.
Though I will say I like that the new kill stuff all requires double black. Makes me hopeful that b/w will afde back to mono-black, thus making bbv and ghost dad less frequent, cause fuck those guys


Actually, reading back over this post I realized something, this is why I was getting burned out.
I was starting to get too wrapped up in my own competitiveness, and was forgetting to have fun. I started playing to have fun, and I need to remember to keep having it, even at tournaments where I have to face the same thing all day.

Wow, random mini-breakthrough...
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Postby DerWille » Fri Jan 17, 2014 8:11 am

Kitty Kat King makes me want to run white weenies, but then I remember all the stuff black has gotten and I drown in sorrow.

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Postby Kazekirimaru » Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:00 am

i see what you did there
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Postby warwizard87 » Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:25 am

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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:27 am

Standard is beyond stale. We need this set to breathe some life into it, but instead it looks like we're just reinforcing the stale archetypes. It's really rather annoying.

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Postby LP, of the Fires » Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:04 am

I actively enjoy standard now and wish it wouldn't rotate for another month or two since I think my deck has almost no bad matchups :p
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby Yarpus » Fri Jan 17, 2014 11:07 am

Don't get overhyped on Brimaz. He's one of those neat cards that will never be played. Bladehold was playable because you were paying 4 mana for 7 power and THAT"S something. Nobody even casted two Heros as there was no need for that. One man army.
Brimaz is 4-power for 3 mana. Which basically means he's playable only in White Weenie.
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Postby DarthStabber » Fri Jan 17, 2014 12:12 pm

Archetype of endurance looks like a commander star, archetype of courage however is nice for white weenie sideboard.
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Postby Kaitscralt » Fri Jan 17, 2014 12:55 pm

Don't get overhyped on Brimaz. He's one of those neat cards that will never be played. Bladehold was playable because you were paying 4 mana for 7 power and THAT"S something. Nobody even casted two Heros as there was no need for that. One man army.
Brimaz is 4-power for 3 mana. Which basically means he's playable only in White Weenie.
so he's not going to be played but he's playable in white weenie ? huh ?

I'll bet you mucho dinero that Brimaz is at least worthy of GP / PT top 8 play and will be a card loved and loathed on the competitive scene going forward
Standard hobos who play budget garbage should be looked upon with suspicion.

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Postby Kaitscralt » Fri Jan 17, 2014 12:56 pm

if not at first then eventually
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Postby Khaospawn » Fri Jan 17, 2014 1:25 pm

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Postby Yarpus » Fri Jan 17, 2014 1:34 pm

Brimaz is 4-power for 3 mana. Which basically means he's playable only in White Weenie.
White Weenie was cool with Theros up, but currently Black gets so many ways to screw small aggros that I heavily doubt WW being playable. I'd say it's even less resistant to hate than RDW.
I'll bet you mucho dinero that Brimaz is at least worthy of GP / PT top 8 play and will be a card loved and loathed on the competitive scene going forward
Deal. At the start it'll be forced into everything but in half of the season people should already wake up with "this is not a good card" call.
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Pain Seer + Herald makes me want to go Suicide Black.
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Postby Kaitscralt » Fri Jan 17, 2014 2:15 pm

Brimaz is 4-power for 3 mana. Which basically means he's playable only in White Weenie.
White Weenie was cool with Theros up, but currently Black gets so many ways to screw small aggros that I heavily doubt WW being playable. I'd say it's even less resistant to hate than RDW.
I'll bet you mucho dinero that Brimaz is at least worthy of GP / PT top 8 play and will be a card loved and loathed on the competitive scene going forward
Deal. At the start it'll be forced into everything but in half of the season people should already wake up with "this is not a good card" call.
yokay
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Postby rcwraspy » Fri Jan 17, 2014 2:55 pm

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Is this rare where you're from?

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Postby hamfactorial » Fri Jan 17, 2014 3:06 pm

Brimaz is one cool cat, daddy-o.
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