[Fedoras of Salvation] - White Knights ITT

[DarthStabber]

I am probably going to end up getting a concealed carry permit (nice thing about living in a conservative state is that they are easy to get, which could also be considered a bad thing (it's a good thing I can get one easy [I'm ex-military, i'm not worried about me], but the fact that everyone can is unnerving).

Think of it this way: anyone who would use a gun in an illegal manner is going to be carrying one whether they have a permit to do so or not so the only people you really have to worry about are the ones with good intentions but that are too dumb to use a weapon
responsibly - and, IME, most of them are anti-gun anyway.

Either way, you're probably not going to want to be unarmed.

You apparently don't live in the midwest, where the stupid people are just as progun as everyone else. But yeah, st. Louis is not a city to be unarmed. I find it hilarious that the 3 most dangerous cities in the us (detroit, st. Louis, and kansas city) are all in the midwaste.

Congratz to the promotees!

How do I get promoted?

[Calamity]

Stick around and post good content

[hamfactorial]

Also, anal

[windstrider]

You're right. Guy's a wad.

ring, ring
The phone's for him.

Congratulations to those promoted.

[lorddax]

Congrats guys! Always happy to see more people doing better and better

On a side note: New week after a weekend full of results, so its time to update our gauntlet!

Thinking about going with this list:
Esper Control
GW Aggro
Mono Blue Devo
Mono Red Aggro
RG Mid
Dega Mid
Junk Mid
Naya Mid
UW Control
Boros Aggro

Any random rogue decks that you guys have seen that should go up? Mono B Devo?

[Self Medicated]

You're right. Guy's a wad.

ring, ring
The phone's for him.

He's clearly trolling. He probably is under the false impression that getting a reaction validates his existence. I tend to ignore people like that and they eventually fade away.

[Link]

woot promotions!

BTW Z maze's end runs bow of nylea now so mind grind isnt 100% win >_>

[redthirst]

I am probably going to end up getting a concealed carry permit (nice thing about living in a conservative state is that they are easy to get, which could also be considered a bad thing (it's a good thing I can get one easy [I'm ex-military, i'm not worried about me], but the fact that everyone can is unnerving).

Think of it this way: anyone who would use a gun in an illegal manner is going to be carrying one
whether they have a permit to do so or not so the only people you really have to worry about are the ones with good intentions but that are too dumb to use a weapon responsibly - and, IME, most of them are anti-gun anyway.

Either way, you're probably not going to want to be unarmed.

You apparently don't live in the midwest, where the stupid people are just as progun as everyone else. But yeah, st. Louis is not a city to be unarmed. I find it hilarious that the 3 most dangerous cities in the us (detroit, st. Louis, and kansas city) are all in the midwaste.

Congratz to the promotees!

How do I get promoted?

I do not live in the Midwest. In the Southeast we certainly have our fair share of pro-gun dumbasses, but they are usually either:
1. Too lazy to go through the process of getting a CWP
2. Too dumb to go through the process of getting a CWP
3. Too poor to go through the process of getting a CWP, or
4. Have a criminal record

Anyone I've ever met
that I wouldn't feel comfortable having a gun around me has fallen into one of those categories and/or has no intention of ever owning a gun because "violence has never solved anything."


You get promoted by posting up good content. The only reason you, and some of the other newbies, weren't promoted is because you've been here such a short time. Keep posting like you have and you'll be a shoe-in for Tier 2 when we do them again in another month or so.

[DarthStabber]

Stick around and post good content

Also, anal

I'll keep trying, and my personal motto is "can't rape the willing".

[Wraith223]

Think of it this way: anyone who would use a gun in an illegal manner is going to be carrying one whether they have a permit to do so or not so the only people you really have to worry about are the ones with good intentions but that are too dumb to use a weapon responsibly - and, IME, most of them are anti-gun anyway.

Either way, you're probably not going to want to be unarmed.[/quote]

You apparently don't live in the midwest, where the stupid people are just as progun as everyone else. But yeah, st. Louis is not a city to be unarmed. I find it hilarious that the 3 most dangerous cities in the us (detroit, st. Louis, and kansas city) are all in the midwaste.

[/quote]

I expect certain idgets to not be pro-gun as more damn Californians move to my state. The individuals that irk me bad are the ones who think .380 is the best concealed carry gun. It is concealable but a joke in ballistics+range. That damn round is
way to small and has probably killed more user than targets due to the targets getting pissed from being decently alive after being shot. Think of your average American. It's is growing into a large cheese ass, thus your little bullet has to punch through clothes, skin, fat, muscle (if any?), and bone. That .380 is not "the little engine that could" from Major Payne. .22 long rifle has better damage results than .380! WTF! It's one thing to be armed, but another to be effectively armed.

To bad you can't find Phosphorus rounds in .410 as the Smith & Wesson Governor would be the Red mages pistol of choice for real life if such ammo were commonly availably.

[Self Medicated]

You know what bugs the shit outta me? Trying to conduct a trade on Facebook, only to have some asshole stick their nose in your business.

[DarthStabber]

If you are buying a gun purely for self defense nearly anything you can control is sufficient, provided you can conceal it, control it, and draw it quickly enough. The range typically needed for self defense is roughly point blank, and trust me when I say almost any firearm is going to be efficacious enough at point blank. Beyond that, assuming you aren't stupid and/or bloodthirsty then you are generally not going to be actually pulling the trigger in those scenarios, the threat of the weapon is generally great enough.

[redthirst]

To bad you can't find Phosphorus rounds in .410 as the Smith & Wesson Governor would be the Red mages pistol of choice for real life if such ammo were commonly availably.

It's no Dragon's Breath, but I imagine this would still cause someone to reevaluate their life choices:



1 .45 polymer bonded hollow point slug + 2 .38 sized balls... just think about that:

You're shooting them with a metaphoric cock and balls.

[lorddax]

Interestingly RT's member fires with the same muzzle velocity ....

[Nuwen]

I've seen a case full of no-serial guns. You can buy them for about a month of NYC rent. These guns are acquired in a couple of ways:

1. Stealing - there aren't many states that specify how you store your guns, because states who favor guns do not favor excessive [difficult-to-enforce] regulations.

2. Running - how many of you have sold plasma for cash? If you were desperate enough, would you apply for a weapon and then re-sell at at 200-300% markup to a black market supplier? There are plenty of anonymous dealers who operate out of deepnet (Do you envision the black market as a dark alley? It's more like Facebook), taking advantage of people hard-up for easy cash.

3. Weapons trade is directly related to drug trade, ESPECIALLY everyone's favorite cash crop: weed. In legal states armed security guards are hired at the supplier, transportation, and vendor level. In non-legal states each of those distribution levels
needs to arm themselves, usually illegally, to protect their valuable product, creating a HUGE demand for blanked weapons.

Keep in mind that ramped THREE STRIKES or NO TOLERANCE felony convictions force the average McLibertarian Weed Supplier to seek weapons from uncontrolled black market channels. That's dangerous for everyone involved.

IMO the only way to approach this is to cut off black market demand for firearms by legalizing the cash crop (creating legal jobs at every level, and increasing the likelihood that defensive weapons are registered). We spend waaaay too much time and energy thinking about gun ownership on an individual level, but it's the industrial-level demand for weapons that deserves our immediate focus. When someone political talks about gun ownership individually (and it's ALWAYS individual ownership in the media), they're just platform pandering.

/soapbox

[Helios]

BOOM.

That was the sound of all the knowledge being dropped.

[lorddax]

God damn it was refreshing to hear someone else thinking the same thing. Now I know I'm just a little less crazy.
I always hear the "But then only criminals will carry guns!" line, but no one ever stops a says "Wait, why are criminals carrying guns, wait, why are they criminals anyway?!".

I'd love to see how many problems true education reform and legalization would change. . .

[Nuwen]

I'd love to see how many problems true education reform and legalization would change. . .

Working on it, one mind at a time. The systemic stuff won't change first, it has to be individuals enlightening other individuals.

You're not crazy - they just want you to think you are. They want you to believe the current paradigm can't be changed by lifting grains of sand with tweezers.

"They" being a blanket term for all the non-autonomous forces that comprise our environment, not "they" the Secret Backroom of Global Villains or whatever.

[DarthStabber]

I am sorry I led us off on this tangent. I will say that get weird looks from my fellow far lefties when I admit I really don't think gun control does anything. I think background checks are a good idea, no sense making it too easy, beyond that meh. Then again I am an american and nothing gives americans a bigger hard-on than a guns and cheeseburgers.

Back to as close to on topic as this thread gets, anybody still using gathan raiders in casual decks? I really like what it does late game.

[redthirst]

Don't worry, everyone here is used to me going off on a gun tangent from time to time and no one cares.

[Nuwen]

Would you say you're cocked on the subject?

[Nuwen]

[hamfactorial]

To BlakLanner tier with you, Nuwen!

[Self Medicated]

Originally posted by zaj56 on MTGS:

what same people? where are you getting your data. dude its simple mathematics. if a bunch of stiffs run RDW someones obviously gonna top 8 cause when the deck curves out great its almost unstoppable. GOLDFISHING. sometimes you can goldfish your way to the top.
last time i checked 1 mono red deck top 16'd at milwaukee SCG.
and as far as MTGO goes win your die roll in the mirror.

Like i said yo can sit here and come up with all these super awesome reasons why RDW is so skill intensive but at the end of the day you cant lie to u yourself. Deep down you know its a monkey deck.

ps let me know when Reid Duke runs RDW

Assemble the legion.

[hamfactorial]

Link me brah

[LP, of the Fires]

http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=548347

[windstrider]

His attempts at using the English language offend me.

[RaidaTheBlade]

See, people like him are why IQ tests should be a requirement for getting an internet connection.

[redthirst]

"Let me know when Reid Duke plays RDW."

"He does. He just wrote an article about it."

"Whatever. Have fun with your monkey deck."

[lorddax]

I love how the argument is basically "mono red deck is so easy to play" "yeah no shit. Hardest deck to play well." "No!" "Yes. Here are some examples." "Nu-uh!" "why do we even bother..."

Also love the injection of that by saying RDW is one of the hardest to play well, we automatically state that control is easy. I missed that argument somewhere.

I tell my LGS players that, as I believe, Red is the easiest color to play but the hardest to play well.

[redthirst]

Monkey deck...

[lorddax]

Annnd time! 3 pages before mod response. New record?

[Self Medicated]

I've had my limit of a-holes today.

[windstrider]

Oh, no! I got a card at Sally. Whatever shall I do? I do believe I have the vapors.

[RaidaTheBlade]

Wonder who all got in trouble for that one
Anybody here get yelled at?

Edit: What'd it say, Windstrider?

[windstrider]

Me, apparently. I'm ok with that.

I got a card for trolling or other inappropriate behavior.

[hamfactorial]

I dropped some knowledge before going back to my 6 month Sally posting hiatus.

[RaidaTheBlade]

Ham, aren't you supposed to be the champ of holding it in? Why'd you break your streak like that?

[redthirst]

He knows about The Challenge!

[DarthStabber]

It's hilarious when you are the most experienced player in your playgroup by nearly a decade and they still argue that RDW is a simplistic newb deck. My only thought is "bitch, I was the oe who taught you to play this mother fucking game". And after I spank then with it repeatedly they say it's purely playskill, to which I can only reply "don't you think I applied some of that skill in putting the damn thing together". Of course once we trade decks and I hammer them with their deck, the "just playing it better" argument gains steam.