Dies to Removal

Rhyno

Thanks for the report. So if you could rewind to the beginning would you drop the Reckoners or move anything around?

Rhyno

Sounds like the guy was just 0'ing chandra repeatedly instead of ticking her up? IDK about that... Like vs white weenies he said chandra drew him 3 lands in a row while his opponent rebuilt his board... why not go for the ultimate? I pretty much always go for the -7 unless I'm desperately digging f...

Rhyno

Some brewing(IQ in 2 weeks): [deck] SB 4 Firedrinker Satyr [/deck] Depends on how the SB of control/black decks change over the next two weeks. I'd personally not run Firedrinker Satyr without 14 untapped red sources, it's too important to hit it T1 and 13 gives you a >10% chance of missing it.

Rhyno

Holy crap the most recent /r/spikes thread about burn is full of insanity. Even more than usual. :V O my lord it's painful. I can feel the cancer. I asked a guy about the "amazing results" he mentioned and he told me he almost went 4-0 at FNM. :V :V I'm usually a pretty polite guy but jeez.

Rhyno

Holy crap the most recent /r/spikes thread about burn is full of insanity. Even more than usual.

Rhyno

Purp didn't even suggest anything about running it, he literally just said the results are worth mentioning.

Ya'll are silly.

Rhyno

Worth mention that the highest placing GP burn decks (2 of them went 9-0 on Day 1) were playing Eidolon. There's a lot of decks popping up in the current paper meta that Eidolon savages. Dredge is on example. Pyromancer lines up alright against it except for Golgari Charm. The Junk decks running Do...

Rhyno

Also I won a game today without resolving a spell. Mutavault is a messed up card.

Rhyno

Also on T4 I swung with a Mutavault, Pyromancer and a Token leaving up RR, he animated Mutavault leaving up blue and blocked the token. I didn't burn it when he animated it fearing Rapid Hybridization. I'm unsure if I made the right play here. Burning it before blockers gives him a 3/3 to block wit...

Rhyno

I skullcracked on upkeep specifically to blank Helix and Last Breath (on his Elspeth tokens.) I was screwed if he had Elixer but I gambled on him not having it. To win he needed a Rev or Counter from his draw that turn, which to be fair isn't that unlikely. EDIT: The correct play for him was to minu...

Rhyno

Increasingly salty at the terrible EV right now. There's a ton I want to test now that I have time. I guess I'll just spew.

Rhyno

I'm trying to remember what I pulled out now to figure out how badly I crippled myself. Though ironically that was the 1 game I won.

Rhyno

You shouldn't board in T//T vs Bx Devotion (or any discard deck for that matter). I did have a mistake there in that I only had it in on the play (did not cast it game 3, didn't have it in.) I was split on bringing it in, I figured it could be fine on the play but yeah, I was wrong. I'll try your s...

Rhyno

Turnout at the IQ was small, 6 rounds only. Started 3-0, lost 2 and ended 4-2. 10th place. Bleh. Was not expecting to write anything about it so I didn't take notes but I'll post some. Meta was as expected except almost no burn, so I cut the Rams from my board. Ended up running very similar to Zem a...

Rhyno

On an unrelated note, in the 13 sanctioned matches I played on paper this week I fused Wear//Tear THREE TIMES which is a ton. The #1 highlight was against Mono Black Aggro. I had a Pyromancer with 1 token. He had Hall of Triumph, Gnarled Scarhide, and Tormented Hero bestowed with Spiteful Returned. ...

Rhyno

@magicdownunder, Thanks for the comments. [s:39sgt0u6]So my mana base compared to yours is: -1 Temple of Malice -2 Boros Guildgate +2 Mana Confluence +1 Mutavault Which sacrifices life and 1 red source for a Mutavault and 2 untapped red sources. I believe I need the untapped red sources to cast Saty...

Rhyno

This is what I'm sitting on for Saturday. My decks to beat, in this order, are: WUx Control Jund Bx Devotion Burn [deck] Creatures 4 Young Pyromancer 4 Chandra's Phoenix Other Spells 4 Shock 4 Magma Jet 4 Lightning Strike 4 Skullcrack 4 Boros Charm 4 Warleader's Helix 1 Searing Blood 3 Chained to th...

Rhyno

Question for you MDU: Did you post your thoughts on having 4 EotgR in the board with Pyromancer builds? I'm curious because I'm trying to put a meta specific deck together and I think I really want access to them. Did you find that they just weren't strong enough or that it made your board less cohe...

Rhyno

Right, I don't see how representing Skullcrack and holding up Magma Jet gives him less outs. Swinging with 3 creatures gives him the least outs. Casting the Phoenix is irrelevant to whether or not we win this turn, the outcome is the same. An example I guess is not overcommitting into a sweeper wher...

Rhyno

Is there a tangible benefit to swinging with 2 Mutavaults instead of 2 Phoenix? But yeah, if it was Game 1 and he already used a charm, I 100% go for it with 3 attackers. playing it safe is the better play but probably loses more games in that situation than forcing your opponent to have 2 removal s...

Rhyno

It depends on what game it is and what's in the yard. I play Phoenix and either swing with 2 Phoenix and Mutavault or hold up Skullcrack. Swinging here gives him the least amount of outs. He has to have 2 removal spells. He can't Syncopate or Dissolve the Phoenix without dying to the other Phoenix a...

Rhyno

Wow that was the saddest Chandra ult I've seen in a while.

Rhyno

I've been testing a build close to Zem's because I think Pyromancer will be stronger in the meta at my upcoming IQ. I'm 10-1 in matches overall (local weekly events, soft) but damn does it feel weaker to me against W/U control. Jace still feels like a disaster when I have Pyromancer and Flamespeaker...

Rhyno

Since the guy has zero cards in hand I would just play scry and Phoenix to block. I can't think of anything he could draw that would kill you, and then you have Helix into Chandra. Mantle + Madcap would do it, but Madcap Skills by itself would be a setback. I'd Shock and play Helix before he draws,...

Rhyno

Speaking of Ram, have most of you guys tested it and dropped it? I currently have between 2 and 3 in my board for Burn and RDW. It hasn't met my expectations but my expectations have been "Play on T2 and win automatically if it stays." I really would like 3-4 cards to sure up the mirror ma...

Rhyno

I guess I'm taking a break for a little bit, even winning an 8 man 50% of the time is bad EV and I'm not confident enough as a newer player to play VM.

Rhyno

Most players who jump on sligh during its next 15 minutes of fame will not have Tom Ross's experience and judgement with the deck; much like the increase in burn after Knoxville. Most players who jump deck to deck because it placed well last week tend to lack the ability to adjust to the changing p...

Rhyno

But it really doesn't 2 for 1 itself as much as you think. Madcap Skills may as well be Lightning Strike in this deck if played properly, and Akroan Crusader makes tokens which can be difficult for burn to deal with. You are much more favored against a more classic RDW shell. It 2 for 1s itself as ...

Rhyno

Someone else should chime in on this but I think we're more favored against Sligh than RDW. Sligh 2-for-1s itself and has terrible creature quality. Would you rather burn your opponents creatures out and have them be left with a Foundry Street Denizen or a Boros Reckoner? I don't think either deck c...

Rhyno

I was testing the Sligh matchup last night, it's basically just as easy as it was the last time it popped up and the strategy is the same. Don't wait until they declare attackers unless you have the resources to beat a Maaka, side out starting with non-removal burn, don't tap out, etc. Eidolon is ju...

Rhyno

Now we can revisit that conversation wherein people told me that eidolon if the great revels outs up more results than young Pyromancer. What is there to revisit? I thought most people think both are fine and you think Eidolon is horrible, I don't think this changes anything. Also my friend sent me...

Rhyno

FDS is probably the best SB card against control decks, but you can't really bring it in against anything else, so I try to avoid running it when I can play T/T or EotGR. Both of them I don't mind bringing in against Bx decks. Chandra is definitely poor at adding the extra damage before she dies, b...

Rhyno

I would consider running more 1/2 drops (Satyr, Keening Apparition or Eidolon are the obvious possibilities here). If they are forced to react to an attacking 2-drop on t3, they don't have mana for negate. And if they don't, then, well, you got 2-damage in. Part of the secret of playing vs. Control...

Rhyno

Almost all of my losses in 8-man SEs on MTGO have been to W/U control, holy crap does that matchup frustrate me. I feel like every post board game comes down to a critical spell with Dispel to protect it and Toil//Trouble has been sucking too. I'm putting away the Toil//Trouble for Satyrs again.

Rhyno

Went 8-1 in 3 SE's last night, beating Sam Pardee (Smdster) in the last final. According to him I ***should*** have SBed out Helix (which matches up poorly vs. Dispel and Familiar) for extra CTTR / BL /MM and that's basically it. My opinion is that his proposed strategy is only good when you have F...

Rhyno

Depends on the matchup, if you need to Chain something it's pretty bad I think. Top 8'd a GPT even though I dropped after the 4th round of 5 in Swiss, that's my accomplishment for today. Punted a match because it was paper and I didn't wait for my Searing Blood to resolve before casting another one...

Rhyno

Still looking for some kind of edge vs UW.

I've been frustrated lately by the UW matchup too, between Rams, Elixer, etc. ugh.

Rhyno

EDIT2: Can you elaborate how Eidolon is terrible in the mirror? Seems the general consuses is that is when it is at its best. I don't agree that it's the consensus, a lot of us think it's a liability (at least I think a lot of us do.) I originally said it was just a bear with a symmetrical effect, ...

Rhyno

Also, it might just be a meta thing, but everyone here has 3-4 Rams. Some even mainboard it.

This has been my experience as well.

Rhyno

Depending how who you talk to, playing control is also "trying not to play magic". I didn't say it was a good argument, it's a pointless one. That said, I don't think Brainsick is saying it's bad because it's low brow, even if you win. I think he's saying that because it's low brow, even ...

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