[Deck] WR Hatebears

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[Deck] WR Hatebears

Postby Mcdonalds » Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:12 am

[deck]
Creatures:
3 Containment Priest
2 Ethersworn Canonist
2 Grim Lavamancer
3 Leonin Relic-Warder
1 Mother of Runes
1 Phyrexian Revoker
3 Prophetic Flamespeaker
4 Simian Spirit Guide
4 Spirit of the Labyrinth
4 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben

Spells
3 Sudden Shock
2 Swords to Plowshares

Artifacts
4 Chalice of the Void
1 Mana Crypt
1 Umezawa's Jitte

Lands:
4 Arid Mesa
4 Cavern of Souls
3 Flooded Strand
1 Plains
4 Plateau
1 Scrubland
1 Strip Mine
4 Wasteland

Sideboard
2 Mother of Runes
2 Swords to Plowshares
4 Grafdigger's Cage
4 Ingot Chewer
1 Kataki, War's Wage
2 Orzhov Pontiff[/deck]

I like everything about this deck, mostly the fact it plays prophetic flamespeaker

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Postby hamfactorial » Thu Feb 05, 2015 6:41 am

Is Flamespeaker playable in Vintage?

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Postby Mcdonalds » Thu Feb 05, 2015 6:49 am

That list went 3-1 in a vintage daily and 5-3 in some vintage mtgo event so...probably not?

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Postby hamfactorial » Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:03 pm

I don't ask to troll, I just assume that 3-drops who die to Bolt and only provide marginal value on turn 4 could be a poor choice in Vintage.

I just love the card, but haven't found the right shell or format for him.

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Postby Mcdonalds » Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:29 pm

Dunno, there isn't too much removal in the format and hamstringing your opponents mana via Thalia makes it difficult to actually cast spells

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Postby hamfactorial » Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:48 pm

Ah, my unfamiliarity with the format shows up at last!

The hate bears are all very good, I suppose focusing on the finisher is silly when the 2 drops are putting the lock on.

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Postby Mcdonalds » Thu Feb 05, 2015 8:13 pm

I'm not too familiar with it either

The idea of chalice, land, exile spirit guide, Thalia sounds rage inducing enough for me to appreciate it

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Postby Stardust » Thu Feb 05, 2015 8:24 pm

Why Sudden Shock?
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Postby hamfactorial » Thu Feb 05, 2015 8:28 pm

Both Infect and Delver are trouble in the older formats.

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Postby Mcdonalds » Thu Feb 05, 2015 8:30 pm

Kill things while getting around chalice @ 1 I guess

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Postby rcwraspy » Fri Feb 06, 2015 7:20 pm

Stardust » Thu Feb 05, 2015 2:24 pm wrote:Why Sudden Shock?

Laboratory Maniac

Doomsday is a very real presence in the Vintage meta and will easily (a relative term when discussing Doomsday) win on the stack after resolving Maniac. A lot happens on the stack in vintage so it's still relevant in other matchups.
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Postby Mcdonalds » Fri Feb 06, 2015 8:11 pm

I'm curious if no black lotus was a deliberate choice

I know even null Rod decks play it because turn 1 null Rod is pretty good

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Postby rcwraspy » Fri Feb 06, 2015 8:27 pm

i kinda doubt it was deliberate (as in, I own Lotus but don't want to include it), but it may have been.

If you don't have any power to play with, the posted list looks like a compelling build to play in vintage.
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