Vintage Super League

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Vintage Super League

Postby rcwraspy » Mon Sep 22, 2014 2:20 pm

This thread is to discuss the Vintage Super League. For those who may not have heard of it, here is some background:

In August Randy Buehler started broadcasting Vintage Super League (VSL) games via his twitch channel. VSL is a group of hand-picked players who smash Vintage decks against eachother each week for 9 weeks plus playoffs at the end. They are broadcast live starting at 7pm PST each Tuesday. Here's the current roster:

Pros we've heard of:
Randy Buehler
Chris Pikula
Eric Froehlich
Tom Martell
Luis Scott Vargas
Josh Utter-Leyton
Bob Maher
David Williams

Vintage Specialists:
Stephen Menendian
Rich Shay

They know each of their opponents ahead of time. They're allowed to change decks weeks 1, 4, and 7. So weeks 2, 3, 5, 6, 8, and 9 everybody knows both who their opponent is and what they're piloting. But for those change weeks, including the first week of the format,
you're meta-gaming against your 3 upcoming opponents. Even though this could lead to some inbreeding, the deck choices have so far been somewhat varied:

Weeks 1-3:
3 Merfolk (Randy, EFro, Dave Williams)
1 Shops (Terra Nova) (Chris Pikula)
2 Gush Storm (Tom Martell and LSV, with LSV's featuring YP$)
1 Oath (Bob Maher)
1 Doomsday (S. Menendian)
1 Control Slaver (Rich Shay)
1 Baubles Storm (Wraptor)

I haven't yet watched week 4, though it's been played and players have chosen new decks. Randy set up a website to log everything. From here you can see the league setup, the decklists, and can be linked to his YouTube channel with each week's footage: http://vintagesuperleague.com/

Even if you're not familiar with the Vintage meta game, these are fun to watch. As you can quickly tell, there is a sharp divide between the knowledge of the pro/HOF players and the Vintage aficionados. That said, the coverage has
been getting better each week as they learn more about their decks, those of their opponents, and the format as a whole.

This thread is to discuss anything related to VSL. I'm hoping there are others on the site interested in this.

EDIT: Collated weekly videos: https://www.youtube.com/user/randybuehler/playlists
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Postby rcwraspy » Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:19 pm

Standings after the first round of 3 weeks:

S. Menendian 3-0
Chris Pikula 3-0
LSV 2-1
Rich Shay 2-1
EFro 2-1
Randy Buehler 2-1
Dave Williams 1-2
Utter-Leyton 0-3
Tom Martell 0-3
Bob Maher 0-3
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Postby rcwraspy » Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:28 pm

New deck choices for weeks 4, 5, 6:

LSV: Grixis Control featuring Tezzeret
Rich Shay: Still fundamentally the Grixis Night's Whisper Slaver Control list, but I think he cut Slaver
S. Menendian: URg Delver
EFro: Mono-Blue Control featuring Back to Basics
Tom Martell: Dredge
Randy Buehler: Oath
Bob Maher: Forgemaster Shops
Dave Williams: Mono-Blue Control featuring Back to Basics (he and EFro are roommates)
Utter-Leyton: UR Storm
Chris Pikula: Terra Nova (same deck as weeks 1-3 w/ minor tweaks)
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Postby Valdarith » Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:32 pm

LSV playing YP$: a man after my heart.
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Postby rcwraspy » Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:44 pm

yeah YP$ may or may not be on the same power level of SFM, Bob, Snap, 'Goyf, but he's certainly more than playable in all formats. I suppose we finally did get the missing red 2-drop for that "cycle."
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Postby rcwraspy » Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:45 pm

for ease of access, so you don't have to hunt it down on vintagesuperleague.com, here is the link to the YouTube videos. Randy has collated them by week. https://www.youtube.com/user/randybuehler/playlists
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Postby Mcdonalds » Tue Sep 23, 2014 6:21 pm

No dredge eh?

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Postby rcwraspy » Wed Sep 24, 2014 2:48 pm

No dredge eh?
Tom Martell is on dredge for weeks 4-6. He said he was sick of losing and wanted to inflict that pain on others. He won with it last week but I haven't seen last night's results yet.
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Postby Valdarith » Wed Sep 24, 2014 2:55 pm

I saw Wrapter vs LSV last night. It was an...interesting match to say the least.
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Postby rcwraspy » Fri Sep 26, 2014 9:22 pm

I saw Wrapter vs LSV last night. It was an...interesting match to say the least.
Just watched that match now. That was crazy! Of note: LSV's deck is a known quantity in the Vintage meta, Wraptor's deck was a brew. Very close to Modern Pyromancer Storm but with broken Vintage Restricted cards thrown in.
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Postby Mcdonalds » Mon Sep 29, 2014 6:20 am

No dredge eh?
Tom Martell is on dredge for weeks 4-6. He said he was sick of losing and wanted to inflict that pain on others. He won with it last week but I haven't seen last night's results yet.
Yeah I didn't notice that at first.


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