DERP Mafia Game Over: The Tumor is Benign! Town Win!

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Postby DroppinSuga » Tue Mar 25, 2014 12:44 am

That's some excellent meta-gaming Wraith.

I'm not voting you because I'm using the information from Day 1 to try to garner some information. Since you didn't vote, there's no solid evidence to use. CM, Dusty and LMD all voted for imopen and mafia rules say that at least one of them is scum. I said we'll "assume" Dusty is town because he's play very town like right now even though he does that as scum, so it's hard to say.

I'd honestly be willing to vote for any of those 3 at this point. But for now, just to be more crazy

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Postby Wraith223 » Tue Mar 25, 2014 1:15 am

Someone who knows who DropingSuga really is please call him cause I think someone has hacked his profile. Or...Look for the seed pod!
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Postby Mcdonalds » Tue Mar 25, 2014 1:19 am

I thought I was your top scum pick

I ain't good enough to vote for, well fuck you and your couch

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Postby Wraith223 » Tue Mar 25, 2014 1:23 am

My couch is leather and you would really enjoy it!

DroppinSuga is the best target right now.
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Postby Mcdonalds » Tue Mar 25, 2014 2:11 am

Was directed at suga but duly noted

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Postby Captain Murphy » Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:36 am

Do you really think imopen was attempting a bus on droppin? It seemed more like an easy lynch option to me
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Postby rezombad » Tue Mar 25, 2014 6:22 am

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( G_R ) -(1)- Stardust
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Postby Mcdonalds » Tue Mar 25, 2014 2:47 pm

Toss up
Between gr and suga, will have a vote when I get home today

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Postby Captain Murphy » Tue Mar 25, 2014 3:00 pm

If its between GR and droppin, Gr is the better choice. Droppin is the most town coming off the imopen fiasco
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Postby Stardust » Tue Mar 25, 2014 3:22 pm

I agree with CM. Suga is town.

I think GR is still the right choice, but CM has me very nervous. I'll try to find time to review today. A lot of small things keep adding up against him.
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Postby Stardust » Tue Mar 25, 2014 3:31 pm

Asking everyone who they targeted could lead scum to the best picks for night kills.
This is true, but we also gain from it. Half the doc abilities are offensive, half are defensive. If we can divide even a couple of us into those two slots, we'll have a better idea of who to gun for with those abilities (town or scum).
Care to say why you targeted me, Stardust?
Looking at the possible roles, I'd already decided to try to hit scum with my shot. Real and Naive both would do nothing. CPR kills you, Quack kills you, Paranoid roleblocks you. So that's three positive
outcomes. The only negative is if I'm Weak, but I figured there was a decent chance I was going to be targeted for the nightkill anyway. For all I know I actually was.
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Postby ( G_R ) » Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:13 pm

Damn, I forgot about quack.

Anyway, I targeted CM, because I was on the fence about him and I thought similar to you. "May the odds be ever in your favor" was my thought when I submitted the PM.
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Postby ( G_R ) » Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:15 pm

So, you think we might have two bodies due to "malpractice" and no nightkill at all?
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Postby ( G_R ) » Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:17 pm

That totally messes with my case, so for the time being I'm gonna

Unvote CM

I might have still roleblocked him, though... :confused:
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Postby Stardust » Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:42 pm

Unvote, Vote GeorgeNor.
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Postby ( G_R ) » Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:44 pm

Daykill GeorgeNor
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Postby Stardust » Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:45 pm

Got him!!
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Postby Stardust » Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:45 pm

So, you think we might have two bodies due to "malpractice" and no nightkill at all?
I dunno. Could be. What do you think?
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Postby ( G_R ) » Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:46 pm

:hifive:
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Postby ( G_R ) » Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:46 pm

So, you think we might have two bodies due to "malpractice" and no nightkill at all?
I dunno. Could be. What do you think?
I am now open to the possibility.
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Postby Stardust » Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:51 pm

Yeah. Makes reading into the kills pretty pointless. There are so many possible scenarios that could have resulted in those two deaths. Maybe I'm the jailer and prevented you, the quack, from killing CM... Maybe claiming who we targeted isn't helpful after all...

Whatever, time for the dump.
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Postby Stardust » Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:51 pm

CM
I wasn't kidding before when I said his three back-to-back posts on Wraith felt scummy. He did have good reason to vote Wraith, brought out in a later post, but that doesn't chance that these felt forced and exaggerated.

I also wasn't kidding about his waffling on Wraith after that blew over.

Rereading my own case against CM, the last two points (ignoring me and doing nothing) still hold. Maybe I was too generous even then to give him a town read based on one post describing his Wraith vote. His [url=http://diestoremoval.com/
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2468&p=206567#p206567]response to my case[/url] ignores those last two points as well, just laughing it off. Hmm.

He suspects imopen and LMD, but LMD more strongly. A perfectly fine position at this point in the game, but worth mentioning anyway since that post distances from imopen as well as casts suspicion on two other players (LMD and myself).

On reread, this post is interesting. He wants to hammer imopen, but wants to hear a claim first. I played a game with CM once before on MTGS. He wanted to lynch the claimed cop Day 1 just because he had a scummy read. Turned out he was right (the cop claim was fake), but CM is definitely not the type to wait. I'd think less so in this game than others.

[
url=viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2468&p=207010#p207010]This post[/url] shows a townie thought process in that he's thinking ahead on his reads. He's right that Suga is town based on imopen's interaction with him, but that was quite apparent (to scum as well as town), so this is pretty weak.

The opening of Day 2 was quite horrible. The kaze/witch slip, further asking of direction from others (GR and Suga), and needlessly mentioning suspicion of me. I mention the last specifically thanks to the wording, "At this point in time I am more concerned about others but this will have to be discussed in larger detail later if we don't hit scum." Not only is this comment pointless, but
it reeks of scum trying to set up future lynches.

As the Day progresses, CM continues to avoid taking a stance.
Well that was useful. My previous town read was definitely unjustified.

Now let's do GR.
GR
Votes Wraith following Kaze's early catch. Legit enough.

Moves on quickly to vote Suga, again for decent reasons.

Prods at Kaze a bit, but with nothing of substance. Eventually unvotes Suga.

Points out Murphy's slip Day 2 and does nothing else. The only thing I don't like here is
"And no, I'm not scum, and I'm happy to say I'm not the CPR doc either." 1) I'm not sure how he could know that, and 2) Publically hinting at your role like this more often comes from scum. Town think about this stuff, but they have no need to make others aware that they're thinking about it, you know?
So... GR hasn't really done much this game, which I guess is worth a null read overall.

Given that I only voted him based on POE...

Unvote GR, Vote Captain Murphy.
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Postby Stardust » Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:59 pm

I realise now that the last point in my GR bit likely is due to his forgetting the Quack. He knows he's not the CPR Doc because there were two dead bodies, neither of which were CM.
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Postby Stardust » Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:03 pm

Yeah, definitely. Everyone vote CM, for real this time.
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Postby Wraith223 » Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:15 pm

@Stardust, You missed a nuance in CM's rage/group question (Slip) on who killed Kaze. He was looking for the Doc who is the quack doctor. His later post "fix" tried to hide this. Problem is that CM and Kaze looked to be buddies to me. That is who I thought the scum team was. Kaze flipping town shocked me and now I am really unsure on CM.

G_R did catch CM in the "tell", but he has pretty much lurked or distanced himself from Iamopen2. Could mean nothing, but again, I am unsure.

Unvote Your break down has thinking Suga could just be turning a new leaf.

G_R- quiet this game, missed vote on scum
CM- possible bussed Iamopen2, Kaze slip, poorly responds

Here is a question for you. Would Scum bus a partner with only a 2 scum team? That seems suicide. G_R seems more likely the target as he pointed out that CM made a slip. A slip that could be said the other way for G_R.
If scum; he would know that slip from CM was easy town lynch for scum.
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Postby Mcdonalds » Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:18 pm

If it means convincing the town your town or distancing yourself from an obvious scum in order to actually win, yes totes worth.

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Postby Wraith223 » Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:18 pm

Doctor Joke of the day.

What is the nurse slang term for a Proctologist?

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Postby Mcdonalds » Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:19 pm

That joke is fucking horrible and going straight into my ever growing portfolio of bad jokes

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Postby Wraith223 » Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:21 pm

@LMD- "Totes" is not a real word. It is only 2 extra letters to type "totally". Don't be a preppy high schooler. I hate that fucking slang term.
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Postby Stardust » Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:21 pm

@Stardust, You missed a nuance in CM's rage/group question (Slip) on who killed Kaze. He was looking for the Doc who is the quack doctor. His later post "fix" tried to hide this. Problem is that CM and Kaze looked to be buddies to me. That is who I thought the scum team was. Kaze flipping town shocked me and now I am really unsure on CM.
You still thought CM and Kaze were buddies even after imopen2 was lynched?

Distancing is different from bussing. CM didn't really bus imopen. He just hammered him. A townie likely would have come along to finish the job anyway, so CM grabbed the opportunity for town cred.

You're right that if GR is scum and if CM is town that GR would have made the same comment about the slip. But you can't
start with that assumption and make the pieces fit. You have to see which puzzle makes the most sense (if that makes sense). CM as scum makes more sense, even if GR as scum is still a possibility. Or, to put it another way, any of us could be scum. CM is just most likely.
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Postby Mcdonalds » Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:22 pm

@LMD- "Totes" is not a real word. It is only 2 extra letters to type "totally". Don't be a preppy high schooler. I hate that fucking slang term.
That was totes the worst thing you could have ever told me

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Postby ( G_R ) » Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:25 pm

lol

And to answer to your inquiries, I usually leave imopen2 alone on D1, because even as town I find him difficult to read. Same goes to CM. I'm glad those who voted for him caught scum, but for me it could have gone either way.

D1 is such a gamble. *sighs*
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Postby Stardust » Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:25 pm

There is actually a wide variety of totes. The moustache one is totes my favourite.

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Postby Stardust » Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:26 pm

D1 is such a gamble. *sighs*
It's only a gamble if you don't catch scum. I was quite sure imopen was going to flip red.
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Postby Wraith223 » Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:28 pm

@LMD- "Totes" is not a real word. It is only 2 extra letters to type "totally". Don't be a preppy high schooler. I hate that fucking slang term.
That was totes the worst thing you could have ever told me
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Postby Wraith223 » Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:36 pm

@Stardust, You missed a nuance in CM's rage/group question (Slip) on who killed Kaze. He was looking for the Doc who is the quack doctor. His later post "fix" tried to hide this. Problem is that CM and Kaze looked to be buddies to me. That is who I thought the scum team was. Kaze flipping town shocked me and now I am really unsure on CM.
You still thought CM and Kaze were buddies even after imopen2 was lynched?

Distancing is different from bussing. CM didn't really bus imopen. He just hammered him. A townie likely would have come along to finish the job anyway, so CM
grabbed the opportunity for town cred.

You're right that if GR is scum and if CM is town that GR would have made the same comment about the slip. But you can't start with that assumption and make the pieces fit. You have to see which puzzle makes the most sense (if that makes sense). CM as scum makes more sense, even if GR as scum is still a possibility. Or, to put it another way, any of us could be scum. CM is just most likely.
Ok, that makes sense. I just looked to confirm your point.
vote imopen

If he flips scum suga is town, if he flips town Witch is scum.
Notice how he basically targets WitchHunt, thus could back up G_R's claim that CM slipped big time.

Vote CaptainMurphy

You could also be scum for noticing Iamopen2's error with the
Fry smily. Just a thought for town if CM flips town.
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Postby Stardust » Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:44 pm

I was going to post something, but it seems pointless.
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Postby Wraith223 » Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:59 pm

I was going to post something, but it seems pointless.
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Postby Captain Murphy » Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:13 pm

lol I just got lynched

Look into GR tomorrow and if GR isn't scum after a flip lynch stardust, he is the only other possibility
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Postby Captain Murphy » Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:15 pm

People using meta on me, you should all know better
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