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Monstrosity issue

Postby Wraith223 » Sun Nov 24, 2013 6:25 pm

So I a playing FNM Sealed and my opponent has Hundred Handed One. I have many flyers ready to swing lethal, and my opponent is short one mana to Monstrosity his dude. He tries to play a card I can't remember that puts a +1=1 counter on it and claims the reach ability is Activated due the counter activating Monstrosity. I counter it anyway and kill him. My question is on Monstrosity static abilities being activated by the +1+1 counter? I claim Bull shit as the ability says "when it become monstrous".
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Postby Blackhound » Sun Nov 24, 2013 7:13 pm

You claiming bullshit was correct.

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Postby Wraith223 » Sun Nov 24, 2013 7:31 pm

The shop owner claimed that Wizards said it works, but I have yet to find said "Wizard's Ruling". The way I read it; Monstrosity should be activated to become Monstrous (should read "has Monstrosity", but no one asked me in development) in order to receive said static abilities. +1+1 Counters are just icing on the cake and not the means to monstrosity.
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Postby phoenixdrakenfire » Mon Nov 25, 2013 4:28 am

701.28. Monstrosity

701.28a “Monstrosity N” means “If this permanent isn’t monstrous, put N +1/+1 counters on it and
it becomes monstrous.” Monstrous is a condition of that permanent that can be referred to by
other abilities.

Monstrous isn't a static ability, it's just a description of a characteristic of that monster. You are correct on calling bs. Monstrosity is under Keyword Abilities in the comprehensive rules. It's also an activated ability. Merely putting a +1/+1 counter on it doesn't give it monstrous.

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Postby DarthStabber » Wed Mar 05, 2014 8:15 pm

The original wording of monstrosity in design was 'once per game', the +1/+1 counters were added to help with the memory issues, but theoretically are not required for a monsterosity ability. By adding +1/+1 counters to it solved both the memory issue and allowed for simpler common monsters that would not be red flagged by NWO.

So technically they could have done
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Creature - weasel
(1)(r)Monstrosity 0.
When steve becomes monstrous it deals 2 damage to target creature or player.
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