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Postby ( G_R ) » Fri Dec 06, 2013 4:18 pm

"Oh shit, he's town, we fucked up" <-- you guys when N3 begins.

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Postby TubeHunter » Fri Dec 06, 2013 4:34 pm

Ah, I missed getting to vote gr! Damn it.

Seems like nobody is celebrating right now so I think we're good.

Well Rez, it's put up or shut up tonight.
What a coincidence. You'll kill Z out of the blue, and hammer LMD, but when it comes to your scumbuddy? You're "late" for the vote.
Nope, I was gone all last night from electronics (basketball game) so I don't see. The point. If I really didn't want gr dead I would've not pushed for him. I pushed for him to get lynched first, so if he really was my buddy why would I do that? Please think before
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Postby rcwraspy » Fri Dec 06, 2013 4:42 pm

You must have just invented busing then, because it's CLEARLY not a thing...
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Postby ( G_R ) » Fri Dec 06, 2013 4:52 pm

It's not busing when it's a townie. It's called a mislynch. ^_^
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Postby ( G_R ) » Fri Dec 06, 2013 4:54 pm

Do we get bah posts on Iso? I want to post that minion gif as my bah post.
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Postby TubeHunter » Fri Dec 06, 2013 4:55 pm

We'll see gr
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Postby ( G_R ) » Fri Dec 06, 2013 4:58 pm

Indeed. :yes:
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Postby Kazekirimaru » Fri Dec 06, 2013 5:43 pm

I'm sure Kaze is town this game, if I'm wrong then OK, but if he is, he's the dumbest town I've ever played with. :wangle:
You're rude.

It's okay since you're scum. I'll forgive you <3
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Postby imopen2 » Fri Dec 06, 2013 5:59 pm

On iso, anything is possible.
Kijin Zabuza: My pokemon cards bring the boys to the yard
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Postby imopen2 » Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:00 pm

Maybe there is just 1 scum in this game
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Postby TubeHunter » Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:10 pm

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Postby ( G_R ) » Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:18 pm

Maybe there is just 1 scum in this game
Maybe people are lynching townies for all the wrong reasons.
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Postby Kazekirimaru » Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:19 pm

Maybe there is just 1 scum in this game
Maybe people are lynching townies for all the wrong reasons.
>Implying there are right reasons to lynch a townie
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Postby ( G_R ) » Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:19 pm

I'm sure Kaze is town this game, if I'm wrong then OK, but if he is, he's the dumbest town I've ever played with. :wangle:
You're rude.

It's okay since you're scum. I'll forgive you <3
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Postby ( G_R ) » Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:21 pm

Maybe there is just 1 scum in this game
Maybe people are lynching townies for all the wrong reasons.
>Implying there are right reasons to lynch a townie
>Implying modgaming/flavorgaming is a good reason to lynch a player. Oh look, LMD is a dragon townie! So am I.
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Postby ( G_R ) » Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:22 pm

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Postby TubeHunter » Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:23 pm

nah, I mostly wanted to lynch you based on the fact that your player had done nothing all game. and that role is horridly untownie.
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Postby Iso » Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:21 pm

Well, that's a lynch. :V Impending votecount + lynch scene.
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Postby TubeHunter » Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:32 pm

Oh goody
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Postby Iso » Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:35 pm

Official Votecount:

(G_R) (4): Kazekirimaru, rcwraspy, rezombad, InflatablePie
rezombad (1): (G_R)


That is a lynch.

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"The Eater Beneath the Tree! He killed our beloved Baldur! I saw it with my own eyes!" screamed TubeHunter.

"You fools! Ragnarok HAD to begin! It was our destiny all along! Don't you see? Open your eyes!" retorted (G_R).

"Nidhogg, you have killed our brother! You will not go unpunished!" challenged InflatablePie.

(G_R) tore apart the cities and landscapes, hurling death energy everywhere until InflatablePie descended with his scepter and impaled (G_R)'s heart with it.

(G_R), in his death throes, gurgled with maniacal, bloody laughter.

"We were all doomed from the start."

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(G_R) has been lynched. He was Nidhogg, Eater Beneath the Tree.

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nInflatablePie removed his scepter from the fallen dragon's chest as a wicked smile erupted on his face.

"Ladies and gentlemen...I have an announcement to make...

...it was me all along!" crowed InflatablePie, as he began furiously attacking TubeHunter.

Kazekirimaru bore a similar grin as he pounced on rezombad and ripped him limb from limb.

rcwraspy trotted over to imopen2, lifted up his leg, and urinated on him. imopen2 was a tree, after all.

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"The sun has stagnated somewhere beyond the rim of the horizon where the darkness is a mystery of curves and lines. Still, we lay under the emptiness and drifted slowly outward; and somewhere in the wilderness, we found salvation scratched into the earth like a message."

Asgard has fallen to the Frost Giants.

The mafia (rcwraspy - Sleipnir, Odin's Steed; InflatablePie - Loki, Trickster God; Kazekirimaru - Unleashed Wolf of the Ván) has won!

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Postby TubeHunter » Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:37 pm

Oh darn. I was kind of hoping for this anyways.
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Postby Mcdonalds » Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:38 pm

Whelp I was wrong

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Postby imopen2 » Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:40 pm

Great. What a fucking mess
Kijin Zabuza: My pokemon cards bring the boys to the yard
Kijin Zabuza: And they're like, "Oh **** he has cards"
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TwinBGenerationX: I wanna trade cards I could trade you, BUT NOT MY CHARIZARD!

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Postby Kazekirimaru » Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:40 pm

Oh, wait, sorry. I was scum the whole time. Whoops. <3
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Postby imopen2 » Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:43 pm

I really don't think we had much of a chance in this game. Too much shit against us with our roles being anti-town, the scum roles being pro-town and therefore easy to hide behind, a three town neighborhood, etc.
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Postby hamfactorial » Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:44 pm

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Postby Iso » Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:44 pm

DroppinSuga -

You are Thor, Thunder God.

You are town.

Once during the game at Night, you may target a player. If that player is town, you will learn their alignment. If that player is non-town, you will kill that player.


Stardust -

You are Baldur, Harbinger of Ragnarok.

You are town.

If you are lynched, the next Day phase will be skipped. If you are killed, the next Night phase will be skipped.


TubeHunter -

You are Odin, Father of the Gods.

You are town.

You are Neighbors with hamfactorial (Huginn) and zemanjaski (Muninn). You may talk with them during pre-game and Night phases in this QuickTopic. You do not know their alignments. Once, during the game, you may choose to kill either Huninn or Muginn. Once you kill either player this way, you can not kill the other.
[Mod Note: Any player revived with Freyja's ability will join the Neighborhood after their second death.]


hamfactorial
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You are Huginn, Messenger of Odin.

You are town.

You are Neighbors with TubeHunter (Odin) and zemanjaski (Muninn). You may talk with them during pre-game and Night phases in this QuickTopic. You do not know their alignments.


zemanjaski -

You are Muninn, Messenger of Odin.

You are town.

You are Neighbors with TubeHunter (Odin) and hamfactorial (Huginn). You may talk with them during pre-game and Night phases in this QuickTopic. You do not know their alignments.


Yannaria/(G_R) -

You are Nidhogg, Eater Beneath the Tree.

You are town.

Once during the game at Night, you may target a player. If that player is targeted by any other abilities that Night, they will die.


rezombad -

You are Freyja, Afterlife Overseer.

You are town.

Once during the game at Night, you may target a dead player. That player will come back to life for a full Day/Night phase. They will die at the start of the next Day. If the player you revive had a limited use ability that had already
been used, they will be able to use it again.


imopen2 -

You are Yggdrasil, Tree of Life.

You are town.

Once per Night, you may target a player. They will be protected from the first kill that targets them that Night.


Lord_McDonalds -

You are Fafnir, Hoarding Dragon.

You are town.

Once per Night, you may target a player. If that player has a non-passive, non-limited use ability, you will gain a 1-Shot version of that ability.
[Mod Note: Targeting Baldur with this ability will give Fafnir a Double Vote the next Day and the ability to use his ability twice during the next Night.]


InflatablePie -

You are Loki, Trickster God.

You are mafia.

Once per Night, you or one of your comrades may perform the Nightkill. You may not use an ability the same Night you perform the Nightkill.

You have the following 1-Shot abilities, of which you may only use one per Night:

* Once during the game at Night, you may target a player. You may create a message of 100 characters or
fewer to send to that player through the mod.
* Once during the game at Night, you may target a player. That player will lose all abilities for the rest of the game.
* Once during the game at Night, you may target 2 players. Any abilities the first player uses that Night will target the second player instead of its originally intended target.
* Once during the game at Night, you may target 3 players, one of which must be yourself. Those 3 players may only vote amongst themselves during the following Day phase.

You may speak to your comrades during pre-game and at Night in this Quicktopic.


rcwraspy -

You are Sleipnir, Odin's Steed.

You are mafia.

Once per Night, you or one of your comrades may perform the Nightkill. You may not use an ability the same Night you perform the Nightkill.

Once during the game at Night, you may choose to stop all non-Nightkill actions that occur on that Night.

You may speak with your comrades in pre-game and Night phases in this QuickTopic.


nKazekirimaru -

You are Fenrir, Unleashed Wolf of the Ván.

You are mafia.

Once per Night, you or one of your comrades may perform the Nightkill. You may not use an ability the same Night you perform the Nightkill.

Once per Night, you may target a player. If that player targets you or one of your comrades on that Night, you will kill that player. Kills performed this way can not be stopped, blocked, or protected against.

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Postby Kazekirimaru » Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:45 pm

I really don't think we had much of a chance in this game. Too much shit against us with our roles being anti-town, the scum roles being pro-town and therefore easy to hide behind, a three town neighborhood, etc.
We kinda sorta faked our roles, brah.

You guys killed each other, period. We barely had to do anything.
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Postby TubeHunter » Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:47 pm

I kinda just wanted this game to be over. I realized about halfway through the possible pairing. Did you know that in Norse mythos, Loki is the parent of slepnir and fenrir? But alas, I didn't feel up to it. Oops
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Postby hamfactorial » Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:48 pm

Tube you certainly did your best to help the game to a speedy conclusion

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Postby TubeHunter » Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:49 pm

Eh, I think I'm done playing mafia anyways, that was humiliatingly bad play by me
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Postby rcwraspy » Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:50 pm

I kinda just wanted this game to be over. I realized about halfway through the possible pairing. Did you know that in Norse mythos, Loki is the parent of slepnir and fenrir? But alas, I didn't feel up to it. Oops
lol. I feel like you should PROBABLY come forward with this sorta thing in the future.

Good game everybody, was fun. Some of you had my scent toward the end but it was too late :unibrow:
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Postby Iso » Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:53 pm

Things that worked:

Stardust's role. The game was centered around the concept of Baldur dying and beginning Ragnarok - so it made sense that the player with the role would want to die as soon as possible! How to motivate a player to want to get themselves killed in a certain way? Nerf the scum as a result! I had to include a lot of killing roles, but implement them in ways that made the players thing to use them. I think this part of the design was ultimately successful, and, had anyone put any thought into the setup, would have been a pretty clear indicator that the entire Neighborhood was town. Speaking of the Neighborhood...

The Neighborhood. Odin's role was obviously a red herring. I didn't want the Neighbors to instantly trust each other because that would have been far too powerful for a Mini. Instead, I wanted them to start off with healthy paranoia that would gradually develop into town reads after some time
passed. TubeHunter blew his load early and then used his ability as a reason to lynch the other Neighbor. This is bad - it was a prime example of favoring modgaming (not wise in an Iso game) and tunneling over objectiveness and behavioral analysis. It was a test to the holder of Gungnir and unfortunately he failed - which means the role ended up serving its teaching purpose!


Things that didn't work:

rezombad's role. I groaned outwardly when I remembered that I forgot to change it to a Day activation from a Night activation during the last Day. That was a mod mistake, and I sincerely apologize for it - not that it would've changed much, thanks to...

rcwraspy's role. It didn't occur to me that the town losing a Night as a result of Baldur's ability would have been so harmful in conjunction with the Sleipnir role, which honestly, was a sort of last-minute add-on because I didn't want a Goon or a true Roleblocker in the mafia, and a Rolecop made no sense flavorfully since he's a horse.


nAll-in-all, I think this setup did alright for a Mini with 4 killing roles (one of which could only kill mafia) and I'm not too upset about the fact that the game ended on Day 3's lynch (even with a skipped Nightkill, which was part of the intention of Baldur's role - balancing out the number of kills necessary to activate his role).
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Postby Iso » Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:54 pm

Neighbor Chat: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/B62nVQX7itWR

Scum Chat: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/XfWArbJWYYGU

Also, I actually completely forgot that Loki was Fenrir's father, though I did remember that he was Sleipnir's.

Interesting how that worked out flavorfully!
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Postby rcwraspy » Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:56 pm

Eh, I think I'm done playing mafia anyways, that was humiliatingly bad play by me
Don't give up!

Just, you know, pay attention to the little things. Like how many votes are on someone. But to your defense there weren't many votecounts, so it was hard to know for sure.
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Postby Mcdonalds » Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:58 pm

How did I get a double vote

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Postby rcwraspy » Fri Dec 06, 2013 8:00 pm

rcwraspy's role. It didn't occur to me that the town losing a Night as a result of Baldur's ability would have been so harmful in conjunction with the Sleipnir role, which honestly, was a sort of last-minute add-on because I didn't want a Goon or a true Roleblocker in the mafia, and a Rolecop made no sense flavorfully since he's a horse.
Yeah at 3:3 with my ability, it's game over heading into night. Prevent all non-kill actions, have a buddy kill X town, and it's next Day at 2:3. Although you could have given us the chance to blow it, I guess, and let Rezombad resurrect Stardust.

Also don't forget that town had 3 chances to lynch me before I would have naturally used my role. I was pretty afraid of being the Day3 lynch after having no
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Postby Iso » Fri Dec 06, 2013 8:02 pm

How did I get a double vote
Do take a look at the mod note by your ability.
rcwraspy's role. It didn't occur to me that the town losing a Night as a result of Baldur's ability would have been so harmful in conjunction with the Sleipnir role, which honestly, was a sort of last-minute add-on because I didn't want a Goon or a true Roleblocker in the mafia, and a Rolecop made no sense flavorfully since he's a horse.[/quote:
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Yeah at 3:3 with my ability, it's game over heading into night. Prevent all non-kill actions, have a buddy kill X town, and it's next Day at 2:3. Although you could have given us the chance to blow it, I guess, and let Rezombad resurrect Stardust.

Also don't forget that town had 3 chances to lynch me before I would have naturally used my role. I was pretty afraid of being the Day3 lynch after having no Night2.
Yeah, I thought about seeing if you guys would do the Roleblock thing but then I realized it was 3v3 and that there was no point to it.
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Postby Kazekirimaru » Fri Dec 06, 2013 8:07 pm

Eh, I think I'm done playing mafia anyways, that was humiliatingly bad play by me
Don't give up!
^This. You're relatively new to the game. You just need more experience. Don't get discouraged.

I'd like to think I did a pretty okay job emulating what people see as townKaze this game. This hopefully goes to show that you should always favor logic over behavioral tells. Always question the intent. "Why did Kaze pull a gambit and never mention it again? What did he glean from it? Wouldn't now be a good time to bring that up? Maybe he just did it to look townie! :
O"

But so many people were willing to write me off as "Kaze being Kaze" that even when I made blatantly bad/nonsensical plays people just handwaved them for me. Maybe now, that won't happen. :P

Thanks for the game, Iso. And cheers to everyone who participated!
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Postby Iso » Fri Dec 06, 2013 8:12 pm

Thanks, guys. :) I'm glad not everyone thought it was a total failure despite the few hangups I had with the setup.
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