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Posted: **Tue Sep 24, 2013 5:33 am**

Okay, imopen. You say Fate's recent posts have been more townie. Weren't you just saying he was handwaving a minute ago?

Posted: **Tue Sep 24, 2013 5:33 am**

Unvote because I am going to sleep and I don't want fate getting hammered during the night.

Translation: "This mislynch wagon might blow up in my face I better bail with a shit reason."

Posted: **Tue Sep 24, 2013 5:33 am**

Unvote because I am going to sleep and I don't want fate getting hammered during the night.
What? Fate hadn't even reached claim range let alone hammer range.

there were 4 votes with 7 to lynch and suga is a double voter. i am not willing to the risk of him getting lynched before i think about this more

Posted: **Tue Sep 24, 2013 5:35 am**

Okay, imopen. You say Fate's recent posts have been more townie. Weren't you just saying he was handwaving a minute ago?

yup, handwaving at the GAME. i am still saying that.

Posted: **Tue Sep 24, 2013 5:37 am**

Define handwaving for me. I think you mean something different than I'm thinking.

Posted: **Tue Sep 24, 2013 5:38 am**

Unvote because I am going to sleep and I don't want fate getting hammered during the night.
Translation: "This mislynch wagon might blow up in my face I better bail with a shit reason."

umm, ok. why would it blow up in my face and not everyone else who was on the wagon as well? i have nothing to gain from a mislynch. there were 16 of us and already 3 town are dead. if the scum get a mislynch today we are most likely down 5 town by tomorrow and that is not acceptable. we are already bad off. i don't want us to be
crippled

Posted: **Tue Sep 24, 2013 5:39 am**

Define handwaving for me. I think you mean something different than I'm thinking.

i guess i don't know what it means in mafia per say but the way i took it from the context of everyone else saying it was to blow something off. he was blowing off this game by not reading and keeping up with the state of the game and when he was called on it he "waved it off" so to speak and acted like that was totally fine. do you have a different definition?

Posted: **Tue Sep 24, 2013 5:49 am**

Yeah, I've always thought of it as dismissing or ignoring an accusation or argument without due cause.

Anyway, thanks for the honest answers. I believe you.

As it happens, I also believe Fate. I want to see Nuwen's reread before I'll be considering moving my vote back there. In the meantime...

Unvote, Vote rezombad.

Posted: **Tue Sep 24, 2013 5:58 am**

Unvote;
Vote: imopen2

Posted: **Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:56 am**

Yeah, I've always thought of it as dismissing or ignoring an accusation or argument without due cause.

Anyway, thanks for the honest answers. I believe you.

As it happens, I also believe Fate. I want to see Nuwen's reread before I'll be considering moving my vote back there. In the meantime...

Unvote, Vote rezombad.

If you believe me then nuwen is confirmed town by proxy...

Who's not paying attention now

Rezombad is a fine lynch

Posted: **Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:57 am**

Unvote;
Vote: imopen2

this however is not. Imopen is a bit of a distraction, but he reads pretty genuine. I have been handwaving this game

It wouldn't surprise me if Stardust 2.0 is scum lol

Posted: **Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:58 am**

nah he's starting the rezom wagon, never mind. If he had followed through on imopen for the handwaving thing I'd go after him for mincing words, but he's doing a town thing

Posted: **Tue Sep 24, 2013 7:21 am**

If you believe me then nuwen is confirmed town by proxy...

Woah woah woah. What? How do you figure?

Posted: **Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:09 am**

Dan! Sorry again. See quote:
Vote: Nuwen.

I WILL SKIN YOU LIKE A CROCODILE

Arbitrary italics below. I don't think bold shows up well on this skin/forum/font.

Votecount #11 (854):

Nuwen (2) - Iso, Yanni
Rezombad (2) - Gammagooey, Stardust 2.0
Kazekirimaru (1) - Spambolic
Yanni (3) - Fate, DroppinSuga, DroppinSuga
Fate (2) - Lord_McDonalds, Rezombad
imopen2 (1) - Kazekirimaru

With 13 alive, it's 7
to lynch!

Please let me know if I've made a mistake.

Posted: **Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:14 am**

hi imopen, I am pretty sure you have no idea why I called your vote bad

thanks

love, iso
What are you talking about?

It's a really awful vote because it looks like a thoughtless /barn towards something you don't quite understand.

The timing was bad, too.

[quote="Stardust » Mon Sep 23, 2013 3:52 pm":
2vhjrvcz]
Are you reading this game? Like, at all?
Not really, tbh, but that doesn't change my feelings about how people post.

I mean I had no read on Stardust when I voted him, it was just a wagon and I wanted the day to mvoe forward.

Then I read the claim post and some people asking ISO to govern Stardust and I agreed because stardust clearly looked town at that point

Fate, you had better be scum. This is ridiculous. You don't naked
vote the hammer (or close to the hammer if you really didn't realise it) then say it was because you had no read and wanted to push a wagon. You then went on to piggy-back Col K (a townie) into pressuring Iso to use his ability. The scum motivation is pretty clear there.

Unvote, Vote: Fate.

"had better be"

prepare to be disappointed? I've played like shit, and what the fuck is this "pressure a townie to for ISo to use his ability"???

TRUE/FALSE: If ISo had governed you yesterday we'd have a pretty confirmed townie (at laest in my eyes) alive TODAY, and ISO's ability confirmed as having been used in a pro-town manner

But youre calling me SCUM because I wanted to do this? What in the literal fuck are you on.

I'll admit to being lazy as fuck but at LEAST I'm not retarded, I'll take that trade any day.

How about you spell out what the "clear scum" motivation was for wanting a townie to be Governed is please.[/
quote]

Right...because we would know that Stardust was town before he flipped, right?

None that I was in. We had a conversation about fake claims a few months ago over PM and I thought you said you'd tried that once.

Anyway, it's been fun. Don't screw this up now.

Quick Iso! Since Stardust is actually town, just use your governor ability already and save the guy! As a bonus we get you to be vanilla for the
rest of the game.

these are the posts I read and then agreed that Stardust was town and should be governed.

Anyway that was fun re-read, I saw Yanni have this nice little post where he said he'd be fine lynching me, Imopen, or Rezmo

Yanni+Rezmo are definitely two of the scumteam. Scum love doing that nice little "list my weakest buddy" in their three reads thing

You think Yanni + zombad is more likely than Yanni + imopen?

Posted: **Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:15 am**

Oops, I missed a page. Checking that now.

Posted: **Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:24 am**

Unvote because I am going to sleep and I don't want fate getting hammered during the night.
Translation: "This mislynch wagon might blow up in my face I better bail with a shit reason."

I agree with at least half of this assessment, but I'm curious why it took you a whole other post to vote him.

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I know why I wanted to lynch zombad early Day 1, but why do you, Fate? I haven't seen a lot in the way of reasoning from you about much of anything except for your town read on imopen and your tying of
Yanni and zombad together.

Posted: **Tue Sep 24, 2013 2:07 pm**

If you believe me then nuwen is confirmed town by proxy...
Woah woah woah. What? How do you figure?

Because fate basically claimed an investigative PR. (Right?) I'm struggling to understand why fate would investigate nuwen who he has been confident was town since the start instead of someone like me, yanni, and rezomb who have been thrown around a lot as possible scum

Posted: **Tue Sep 24, 2013 2:11 pm**

How the fuck do we examine stardust?

What's the case on nuwen, I know Iso mentioned something to the effect that she is leading us around (late, need to sleep)?

@Fate, you seem certain Nuwen is town, why?
Role information, obviously, are you people this fucking dense?

I took this to be an investigative role claim. I think if fate is town the. Nuwen is town. I don't think the opposite has to be true tho since if fate were scum he (she? Sorry I'm not sure which one of you was a girl) would know that nuwen was at least not scum and therefore could be false
breadcrumbing

Posted: **Tue Sep 24, 2013 2:18 pm**

imopen, don't speculate on what Fate's claim means exactly. There are a few possibile roles that he might have, but what he's said is enough for now.

Yeah, I've always thought of it as dismissing or ignoring an accusation or argument without due cause.

Anyway, thanks for the honest answers. I believe you.

As it happens, I also believe Fate. I want to see Nuwen's reread before I'll be considering moving my vote back there. In the meantime...

Unvote, Vote rezombad.
If you believe me then nuwen is confirmed town by proxy...

Who's not paying
attention now

Rezombad is a fine lynch

What I meant by that is that I'll be reassessing both of you at that time. You are a town read, Nuwen is a scum read. Either Nuwen is scum therefore you are scum or you are town therefore Nuwen is town, something that I'm unlikely to forget. I'm slightly leaning more towards the first option since Nuwen is a stronger scum read than you are a town read, but I'm not sure enough of that to push either wagon at the moment. So I'll leave you two hazy for a bit and get more info elsewhere.

One thing that might help: Apart from my rezombad vote, why do you think I'm scum? That was a pretty random shot.

Posted: **Tue Sep 24, 2013 2:30 pm**

Actually, there is one thing I do want to talk about regarding the claim...

HowlingMad! You said you thought Fate and Nuwen might be lovers. Why is that relevant?

Posted: **Tue Sep 24, 2013 2:58 pm**

with fate's shitty behavior I'm more inclined to believe that they're sucm buddies than that they're loves/masons or fate is a cop

Posted: **Tue Sep 24, 2013 3:00 pm**

I'm just more inclined to believe that Yanni is scum and no one is willing to even put some pressure on him to force a claim. At this rate, the Scummers are going to roll us.

Posted: **Tue Sep 24, 2013 3:12 pm**

I'm just more inclined to believe that Yanni is scum and no one is willing to even put some pressure on him to force a claim. At this rate, the Scummers are going to roll us.

Don't worry, I'll be there in a minute.

Posted: **Tue Sep 24, 2013 3:14 pm**

I'm just more inclined to believe that Yanni is scum and no one is willing to even put some pressure on him to force a claim. At this rate, the Scummers are going to roll us.

lol maybe it's because your wagon is fucking retarded?

Posted: **Tue Sep 24, 2013 3:25 pm**

It is moving pretty slowly... yeah...

Yanni, what's so bad about the wagon on you?

Posted: **Tue Sep 24, 2013 3:48 pm**

because a bunch of the stuff suga has posted and imopen as posted is that they just don't like me which does not a wagon make.

Posted: **Tue Sep 24, 2013 4:23 pm**

It has nothing to do with hating you, it has to do with the fact that most of your moves have been the epitome of scum as of late.

Posted: **Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:33 pm**

mopen, don't speculate on what Fate's claim means exactly. There are a few possibile roles that he might have, but what he's said is enough for now.

Posted: **Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:34 pm**

with fate's shitty behavior I'm more inclined to believe that they're sucm buddies than that they're loves/masons or fate is a cop

why are we not surprised you rather disregard relevant softclaims in the face of your ONLY fabricated reads?

Lynch this scum please

Posted: **Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:37 pm**

with fate's shitty behavior I'm more inclined to believe that they're sucm buddies than that they're loves/masons or fate is a cop
why are we not surprised you rather disregard relevant softclaims in the face of your ONLY fabricated reads?

Lynch this scum please

I'm trying, but everyone's too busy not helping me.

Posted: **Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:23 pm**

Actually, there is one thing I do want to talk about regarding the claim...

HowlingMad! You said you thought Fate and Nuwen might be lovers. Why is that relevant?

Someone was saying earlier that if Nuwen was scum then Fate had to be too because of what he's been saying, but I read that lovers can be cross-aligned sometimes and I've never seen a lover role pm but IDK maybe it only tells him who it is but not their alignment, like that game I lurked a while ago where the last scum ended up being attached to another townie but ended up flipping scum. So I guess the relevance is that not because Nuwen flips scum/town it means that Fate is the same.

That said, I don't buy any of the reasons given for voting for them.

nBased on my manasjapping of D1 and because there has been nothing that sways my opinion of him after that:

Vote Yannaria

Posted: **Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:25 pm**

Also, I'm not saying they ARE lovers, but that because lovers are a thing there is reasonable doubt that makes me not believe the "if Nuwen is scum ergo Fate is too" theory.

Posted: **Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:26 pm**

All this based on what I interpret from Fate's breadcrumbing...

Posted: **Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:27 pm**

with fate's shitty behavior I'm more inclined to believe that they're sucm buddies than that they're loves/masons or fate is a cop
why are we not surprised you rather disregard relevant softclaims in the face of your ONLY fabricated reads?

Lynch this scum please
I'm trying, but everyone's too busy not helping me.

Ill help

Vote Yanni

I believe
that is L-2

Posted: **Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:28 pm**

Now I go back to flying, up up up up up up!

Bahbush!

Posted: **Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:51 pm**

I support this wagon. Yanni, please claim.

Posted: **Tue Sep 24, 2013 10:22 pm**

Erm...he's L-2.

Do you guys claim at L-2?

Posted: **Tue Sep 24, 2013 10:22 pm**

I thought you only claimed at L-1 with someone intending to hammer.

Posted: **Tue Sep 24, 2013 10:35 pm**

MTGS convention is L-2 to avoid the scum hammer (which too often ends up being the noob hammer instead) and the self hammer. But anyway, I'm voicing my support of this wagon, so it's basically L-1 except that we can keep this Day going for a while.

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The Boondocks Mafia (Town Win)

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