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Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 1:14 am
by imopen2
I think voting scumbag right now is silly

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 1:50 am
by Yannaria
combined with other stuff I already didn't like about him
what stuff?
that was already mentioned.
Any evidence besides 'lurking'?
are you being intentionally dense?
1. voting no lynch left a bad taste in my mouth and
is almost always scum behavior
2. he's lurking in plain site
3. combine those two: likely scum

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 2:02 am
by Col. Khaddafi
his behavior is not protown and that no lycnh vote left a real bad taste in my mouth.
Jesus fuck shut your trap already about your nolynch crap, at least find something better if you are so adamant on picking on me.

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 2:07 am
by Kazekirimaru
Any evidence besides 'lurking'?
are you being intentionally dense?
1. voting no lynch left a bad taste in my mouth and is almost always scum behavior
2. he's lurking in plain site
3. combine those two: likely scum[/quote]
I'm not feeling it.

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 2:08 am
by Kazekirimaru
are you being intentionally dense?
1. voting no lynch left a bad taste in my mouth and is almost always scum behavior
2. he's lurking in plain site
3. combine those two: likely scum
I'm not feeling it.
Quote bork. FTFM. :thumbsup:

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 2:39 am
by Yannaria
his behavior is not protown and that no lycnh vote left a real bad taste in my mouth.
Jesus fuck shut your trap already about your nolynch crap, at least find something better if you are so adamant on picking on me.
fine how about your in site lurking

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 2:44 am
by Col. Khaddafi
Its no worse than your average Joe's lurking.

Bite me I don't have strong reads during day 1, everyone is too busy being paranoid about everything, well I a'int.

I might give it another read once the T/SS lists are done but that's about it, I have yet to see anything blatantly scummy, the worse I've seen were these people who got into claim range for nothing, but as I said before I think Kaze was being earnest in his efforts even if they come as misguided town.

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 5:08 am
by imopen2
is tubehunter going to post a list or are we skipping him?

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 5:53 am
by Captain Murphy
The Mafia is doing a great job so far. There's so much confusion and not enough consensus today. There's a lot of OMGUS going on and it's totally ruining this day. I've had a hard time paying attention to this game as it is since it's moved so slowly, but this ridiculousness on day one is adding to my frustration. At least there's more to analyze now. I'm still thinking Kaze or Yanni may be viable scum reads. I've had people on my case for not posting or posting short posts, but Yanni pops in and posts that he's going to vote Scumbag which makes no sense and everyone is cool with it? I'm not sure we shouldn't be looking at Yanni at this point.
He has made more posts and made more content than you. That is the difference.

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 5:57 am
by Captain Murphy
Droppin is acting dumb, if you are town droppin you are doing a terrible job.

We need a vote count but I'm too convinced to lynch LMD today regardless of his claim. I'm not going to be happy running up someone else and having 4 possible real PR's claimed

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 6:01 am
by Captain Murphy
TBH, if witch and imopen's claims are legit it might be fantastic for the town because having a watcher on a cop is exactly how you want to do it.

Now, the plans for tonight:

Witch, you are watching imopen, yes?
imopen, you are copping either: Col. Khaddafi, Yanni or droppin, yes? (Please do not tell us who you decide, make your own mind up between these 3)
IF SOMEONE IS THE VIG: Shoot Kaze.

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 6:03 am
by Captain Murphy
IF THERE IS A DOCTOR please doc witch

With a doc on witch and witch on the cop, we will be an unstoppable town until the doc dies (if we do actually have one)

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 6:05 am
by Captain Murphy
Oh and I almost forgot again If there is a tracker for god sake track imopen because the last thing we need is for imopen to be lying scum

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 6:07 am
by Kazekirimaru
I strongly suggest not shooting Kaze.

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 6:09 am
by Kazekirimaru
You know, especially if you want your PR plan to work.

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 6:28 am
by Captain Murphy
We will see

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 6:28 am
by Mcdonalds
LMD, answer my question.
I'll answer it tomorrow.

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 1:56 pm
by imopen2
I'm not sure if I like those three choices, CM...how did you make that list?

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 2:27 pm
by TubeHunter
Ok, I got some of my shit figured out, and I am re-reading the game as I speak. T/S list coming today.

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 3:04 pm
by Stardust
TSListDay1.jpg
Here's a pretty table. 1 is town, 5 is scum. If anyone wants to change their reads, let me know and I can update this easily. LMD, Kaze, Yanni, Scumbag are our top 4, in that order. However! I would say that if LMD flips scum, Kaze is very likely town and Yanni is very likely scum based on interactions. Any vigs out there should take that into consideration!
TBH, if witch and imopen's claims are legit it might be fantastic for the town because having a watcher on a cop is exactly how you want to do it.

Now, the plans for tonight:

Witch, you are watching imopen, yes?
imopen, you are copping either: Col. Khaddafi, Yanni or droppin, yes? (Please do not tell us who you decide, make your
own mind up between these 3)
IF SOMEONE IS THE VIG: Shoot Kaze.
Witch should watch imopen, no question.
The numbers say that imopen should cop one of Scumbag or DroppinSuga. Add Kaze to that list if LMD flips scum. Add Yanni to that list if LMD flips town.
Vig should kill the other. Kaze if LMD flips town, Yanni if LMD flips scum.

Despite the numbers, I personally want to add GR to that cop list in place of Suga. Fairly sure he would be my target if I was the cop since he's null, but feels like he's observing even though he's participating.
IF THERE IS A DOCTOR please doc witch

With a doc on witch and witch on the cop, we will be an unstoppable town until the doc dies (if we do actually have one)
Don't worry. The doc knows what he's doing. Let's just say Witch isn't the only option since chances are good that the scum have a roleblocker.
Oh and I almost forgot again If there is a tracker for god sake track imopen because the last thing we need is for imopen to be lying scum
Agreed. Watcher/Tracker combo is more believable than Watcher/Tracker/Cop combo. If you are a tracker, proving that we've got all three is more valuable than anything else so we can avoid lynching one of our info roles.

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 3:06 pm
by Stardust
Maybe I'm getting ahead of myself here...

LMD, please claim in your next post.

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 3:10 pm
by rezombad
I can confirm 100% that there is at least 1 cop.

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 3:21 pm
by ( G_R )
No way there is more than one cop. Are you fucking counter-claiming? Cuz if you are we lynch imopen2 right now.

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 3:32 pm
by rezombad
I'm not counter claiming.

Stardust said "Watcher/Tracker combo is more believable than Watcher/Tracker/Cop combo".

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:11 pm
by Mcdonalds
Maybe I'm getting ahead of myself here...

LMD, please claim in your next post.
Two things

- Won't be at computer until real late today, so that is likely not happening
- why, there is no reason for me to do so, it won't stop my lynch (inb4 "ZOMG TOTAL SCUM TELL"), what would that honestly do? If I claim, you guys will simply lynch me anyways, if I don't, you lynch me, I could literally be anything and I would be lynched, if you can give me a reason that isn't "your at l-2", then I'll think about it.

That being said, Spam vote count please.

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:20 pm
by imopen2
Maybe I'm getting ahead of myself here...

LMD, please claim in your next post.
Two things

- Won't be at computer until real late today, so that is likely not happening
- why, there is no reason for me to do so, it won't stop my lynch (inb4 "ZOMG TOTAL SCUM TELL"), what would that honestly do? If I claim, you guys will simply lynch me anyways, if I don't, you lynch me, I could literally be anything and I would be lynched, if you can give me a reason that isn't "your at l-2", then I'll think about it.

What's the
point of playing if you are going to give up when you get pressured?
That being said, Spam vote count please.

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:22 pm
by imopen2
My post somehow ended up inside of your quoted post... For reference I said, "what's the point of playing if you're going to give up when you get pressured?"

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:28 pm
by WitchHunt
I have no problem watching imopen, it sounds like a pretty solid option so far. If your claim is genuine LMD it'll at least stem the tide, you're cracking far too easily. After all, you weren't the first one who had to claim.

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:29 pm
by Second Harkius
Vote Count #4 -


Yannaria (1) – DroppinSuga
Lord_McDonalds (5) – Kazekirimaru, Rezombad, Captain Murphy, Stardust, WitchHunt
Kazekirimaru (1) – Lord_McDonald’s
Rezombad (1) – imopen2

Not voting (4): Colonel_Khaddafi, TubeHunter, (G_R), Yannaria

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:36 pm
by Stardust
- why, there is no reason for me to do so, it won't stop my lynch (inb4 "ZOMG TOTAL SCUM TELL"), what would that honestly do? If I claim, you guys will simply lynch me anyways, if I don't, you lynch me, I could literally be anything and I would be lynched, if you can give me a reason that isn't "your at l-2", then I'll think about it.
You claim so that we can avoid lynching a powerful role. If you're something stupid like census-taker, then we'll lynch you. If you're something awesome like cop, then we won't.

At least, that's how it normally goes. Reads Day 1 are seldom strong enough to justify lynching a good PR. But the way you talk about claiming here I think means you're either a
weak town PR, or scum. So... you may have just made your prophecy self-fulfilling.

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 8:21 pm
by Yannaria
that's a pretty weak reason for not claiming.
claim or I'm voting you

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 8:28 pm
by rezombad
Maybe I'm getting ahead of myself here...

LMD, please claim in your next post.
Two things

- Won't be at computer until real late today, so that is likely not happening
- why, there is no reason for me to do so, it won't stop my lynch (inb4 "ZOMG TOTAL SCUM TELL"), what would that honestly do? If I claim, you guys will simply lynch me anyways, if I don't, you lynch me, I could literally be anything and I would be lynched, if you can give me a reason that isn't "your at l-2", then I'll think about it.

That being
said, Spam vote count please.
It's funny because he calls what he's doing scummy.

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 8:40 pm
by Mcdonalds
- why, there is no reason for me to do so, it won't stop my lynch (inb4 "ZOMG TOTAL SCUM TELL"), what would that honestly do? If I claim, you guys will simply lynch me anyways, if I don't, you lynch me, I could literally be anything and I would be lynched, if you can give me a reason that isn't "your at l-2", then I'll think about it.
You claim so that we can avoid lynching a powerful role. If you're something stupid like census-taker, then we'll lynch you. If you're something awesome like cop, then we won't.

At least, that's how it normally
goes. Reads Day 1 are seldom strong enough to justify lynching a good PR. But the way you talk about claiming here I think means you're either a weak town PR, or scum. So... you may have just made your prophecy self-fulfilling.
Really, we had someone admit to wanting lynch me regardless

Give me a better reason for giving out information than that

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 9:22 pm
by Kazekirimaru
You claim so that we can avoid lynching a powerful role. If you're something stupid like census-taker, then we'll lynch you. If you're something awesome like cop, then we won't.
Coach much?

Probably not, but this was still oddly worded.

My guess is if LMD is scum he'll WIFOM now and claim a weak PR because after saying this scum would claim a powerful PR to avoid lynch(for at least a day.)

But now that I've said this...hah. WIFOM sandwiches!

Whatever...

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 9:51 pm
by Kazekirimaru
I personally think vig should hold their shot until at least night 2, btw. Unless they're an every night vig in which case go for it and shoot me, I suppose. I've bombed most of day 1 and my flip will bring about much valuable NK analysis.

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 10:55 pm
by rezombad
I personally think vig should hold their shot until at least night 2, btw. Unless they're an every night vig in which case go for it and shoot me, I suppose. I've bombed most of day 1 and my flip will bring about much valuable NK analysis.
after saying this:
I strongly suggest not shooting Kaze.
You know, especially if you want your PR plan to work.
What the absolute fuck?

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 11:07 pm
by Kazekirimaru
Changed my mind.

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 1:38 am
by ( G_R )
Here's a reason LMD: if you are town giving the info is better than waiting for the flip to have the info revealed anyway. The only good reason NOT to claim at this point is that your a scum member who can't come up with a good fake claim in which case your flip will be a satisfying thing to look at.

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 5:20 am
by Mcdonalds
That's a reason WHY people claim but not a reason for me to claim

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 5:21 am
by Mcdonalds
Actually GR, why aren't you voting me?