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Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:53 am
by Lightning_Dolt
Isn't UW kinda bad against RG Aggro? I haven't played the match, but I feel like Heir, Yasova and Stormbreath are problematic. They also have extra threaten effects, wild slash and back to nature post board.
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:58 am
by Valdarith
I didn't even know RG aggro was a thing, and that's saying something considering how my meta almost always flocks to those strategies.
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:00 am
by Kaitscralt
zem knows the week one meta

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:01 am
by Kaitscralt
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:01 am
by zemanjaski
Isn't UW kinda bad against RG Aggro? I haven't played the match, but I feel like Heir, Yasova and Stormbreath are problematic. They also have extra threaten effects, wild slash and back to nature post board.
It's slightly better than even for UW heroic if both players are competent.
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:11 am
by zemanjaski
zem knows the week one meta

I expected like 20% RG, not 40%!
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:13 am
by zemanjaski
UW is such a Zem deck. Zemmers they're called, I believe.
Play something with Siege Rhino, Zem.
Weren't you pushing some UB deck during the Season of Rev? Now UB is actually viable. Play that.
Frontier Siege seems to be hot right now. Go siege some frontiers. Preferably with rhinos.
Your memory fails you, I played a deck called "Boros Burn" you might've heard of it? I wrote some articles about it too, they were somewhat popular on the interwebs.
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:15 am
by zemanjaski
It's definitely fair criticism to point out I tend towards underpowered tempo decks.
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:16 am
by LP, of the Fires
RG agro is dece. I was playing pick up games with it before tourney started last night. Great choice if you expect a bunch of control or if ever the meta is just soft to fliers.
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:17 am
by LP, of the Fires
There's also the swag version featuring 2 card combo kill:
2 Xenagos, God of Revels
1 Atarka, World Render
1 Polukranos, World Eater
3 Yasova Dragonclaw
3 Boon Satyr
4 Elvish Mystic
4 Rattleclaw Mystic
4 Flamewake Phoenix
4 Ashcloud Phoenix
4 Stormbreath Deagon
4 Crater's Claw
2 Collateral Damage
4 Temple of Abandon
4 Wooded Foothills
4 Mana Confluence
6 Forest
6 Mountain
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:26 am
by zemanjaski
Ah didn't think you meant back that far! That deck was actually really good and saw a lot of play at the world champs.
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:27 am
by zemanjaski
Rev wasn't the dominate card that it was six month later at that time.
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:29 am
by Lightning_Dolt
Isn't RW Aggro > RG Aggro?
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:30 am
by Lightning_Dolt
Because C2R?
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:36 am
by LP, of the Fires
RW agro is a tier 1 deck.
RG agro is a deck with a bunch of good cards that also happens to be moderately inconsistent and asks a lot more questions in deck building.
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:37 am
by LP, of the Fires
And RG doesn't have the infinite free wins you get from playing rabblemaster and quality removal.
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:39 am
by zemanjaski
Yeah I feel RW is the better of the two.
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:39 am
by Kaitscralt
Rhino Siege 1WBG
Enchantment
As Rhino Siege enters the battlefield, choose Siege or Rhino.
If you chose Siege, at the beginning of your upkeep, target opponent loses 3 life and you gain 3 life.
If you chose Rhino, at the beginning of your upkeep, put a 4/5 Rhino token with trample onto the battlefield.
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 5:45 am
by Lightning_Dolt
Anyone else tried Sam Black's new
Howl of the Horde deck? Shit's seriously fun and actually pretty good.
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 5:48 am
by Kaitscralt
So if you attack with a Rhino, then when you cast your next Rhino, you get two extra Rhino tokens?
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 5:48 am
by Kaitscralt
sweet
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 5:50 am
by Lightning_Dolt
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 7:01 am
by LP, of the Fires
Collateral damage is a pretty sweet card.
It's very bad, but it's great from a design and deckbuilding perspective because it rewards you for building with it correctly and punishes you VERY badly for just throwing it in a random red deck.
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 7:03 am
by LP, of the Fires
Like in the RG deck I posted there's like, a ton of good uses for the card. Threatens, sacking dead mana dorks, saving your phoenixs from exile affects, sacking tapped creatures with boon satyr for removal+surprise blocker to name a few.
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 12:51 pm
by Kaitscralt
Like in the RG deck I posted there's like

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 2:34 pm
by Valdarith
That deck was the real deal. I collected many tears with it.
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 2:40 pm
by Kaitscralt
Someone sieged the siege I sieged
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:03 pm
by Purp
Jsilvs article: "Abzan persists: The more things change, the more Rhinos stay the same."
He is an FoSer whether he wants to admit it or not.
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:08 pm
by Kaitscralt
More like he is a DTR'er
Rhino meme started outside this thread

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:08 pm
by Kaitscralt
But still, good on him
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:14 pm
by Purp
I only visit the Aggressive Standard, EDH and FoS threads on this website..
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:16 pm
by Kaitscralt
you're doing yourself a great disservice and us a great service
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:43 pm
by Col. Khaddafi
you're doing yourself a great disservice and us a great service

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:01 pm
by Valdarith
If a rhino sieges in the woods and no one is around to see it, did it actually siege?
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:10 pm
by Purp
Is the glass half empty or full siege rhino?
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:21 pm
by Mcdonalds
Siege me once, shame on you, siege me twice, siege rhino
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:24 pm
by Col. Khaddafi
I believe Kait pulled that one a few posts ago.
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:46 pm
by Purp
I believe Kait pulled that Siege a few Rhinos ago.
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:54 pm
by Kaitscralt
you are my siege rhino
my only siege rhino
you make me 4/5
when skies are gray
you'll never know dear
how much i love you
please don't siege my siege rhino away
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 5:28 pm
by rcwraspy
I love big butts and I cannot lie.