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Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 7:57 pm
by Tyrael
I wouldn't say brainstorm is necessarily 'overpowered', it's just that other colors lack the utility that blue offers

I do indeed feel that the format is rather diverse, even though nearly every deck does play brainstorm and friends

I wouldn't be upset if wizards decides to ban it at one point though, even though they probably won't

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 8:00 pm
by LP, of the Fires
Ross paired against the worst BUG delver player in the world. Up 2-0.
Devon O'Donnell plays in a lot of events around here. He's a really nice guy, though yeah, he's certainly not looking good here right now.
To be fair to O'Donnell, he's in the same top 4 with Reid Duke and Tom Ross and thus obviously did ok for himself.

He certainly played horribly in the match, but that can largely be chalked up to matchup inexperience and/or nerves. It was horrible though.

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 8:01 pm
by LP, of the Fires
Legacy Sucks because agro isn't viable.

There, I said it.

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 8:09 pm
by Tyrael
Well, modern isn't that great of an environment for aggro either...

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 8:14 pm
by LP, of the Fires
I get to play affinity in modern.

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 8:16 pm
by Mcdonalds
Which is funny because literally every person I've met who plays that deck hates playing it

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 8:18 pm
by Khaospawn
I get to play with Goblin Guide. :shrug:

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 8:20 pm
by Khaospawn
:scrump:

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 8:21 pm
by BlakLanner
I get to play with Goblin Guide. :shrug:
Pretty much this. It isn't a cakewalk but you can play aggressive in both Modern and Legacy.

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 8:21 pm
by rcwraspy
Legacy Sucks because agro isn't viable.

There, I said it.
Delver strategies are fun, though of course not "aggro." But you're typically the beatdown.

Is Merfolk still floating around somewhere on the fringes of playability in Legacy?

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 8:22 pm
by BlakLanner
Merfolk is viable but on the downswing with Miracles picking up.

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 8:42 pm
by Lightning_Dolt
Legacy and Modern suck. They only cater to certain kinds of players.

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 8:44 pm
by rcwraspy
Legacy and Modern suck. They only cater to certain kinds of players.
and what kind of player is that?

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 8:44 pm
by LP, of the Fires
Which is funny because literally every person I've met who plays that deck hates playing it
They must hate fun.

To play affinity, you have to enjoy decision making, embrace constant high risk/reward situations as they present themselves to you, and be ok with playing against hate cards frequently.

A pattern with my deck selection is that I tend to play decks that are very hateable. The reason for this is that most people tend to not test there postboard matchups and think there hate cards win the game. Either that, or they don't test vs. competent pilots. Most of the time the hate is either very beatable, or can be played around(or both).

You should NOT play affinity if you're:

1) risk averse.

2) weak at math

3) hate to
mulligan.

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 8:52 pm
by Mcdonalds
Most just don't like dealing with the hate cards, I'd imagine the first time someone goes in dry with a stony silence or someone goes "EOT Pestermite, untap, splintertwin?" when your on affinity, you simply want to punch a wall

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 8:56 pm
by Mcdonalds
Is Merfolk still floating around somewhere on the fringes of playability in Legacy?
It's okay, there is a build with maindeck Chalice of the voids and 4 cavern of souls that is supposedly real legit, although I feel BUG strategies simply crush that build

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 8:59 pm
by LP, of the Fires
Look at Greg Hatch's deck tech on merfolk from the invitational.

#Ninjaofgoingdeephours.

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 9:21 pm
by Kaitscralt
want to know what a serial killer / alien looks like when he is trying to look normal / get the joke?

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 9:48 pm
by rcwraspy
somewhere there's a joke about playing against Reid Duke and not knowing how to "put up your dukes."

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 10:20 pm
by Tyrael
The Boss does it again yo

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 10:31 pm
by zemanjaski
The format changed and I reconsidered my position on a few cards. Overall, some of the changes were good, some were whatever. You have to make some radical concessions to beat UW Control.
you mean you were wrong about eidolon
Nope. I was the most right about Eidolon of everyone.

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 10:33 pm
by zemanjaski
Any plans for a write up Z? Would love to hear your thoughts about the deck changes. I too have made my way to 4 eidolon in the SB however I am on two glares.

Was 8 4 mana spells an issue for you? I find myself really liking stoke, and have cut down on the WLH.

Congrats on 3rd, certainly a respectable finish, if only prize payouts supported it.
No.

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 10:33 pm
by Kaitscralt
grats on third

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 10:47 pm
by Lightning_Dolt
Legacy and Modern suck. They only cater to certain kinds of players.
and what kind of player is that?
Players who enjoy playing blue or jund.

People who enjoy playing combo or control.

People who enjoy playing rock vs paper with no scissors.

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:03 pm
by Mcdonalds
Basically your mad you can't play mono red like you can in standard

Noted

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:06 pm
by Lightning_Dolt
No, I think it's a bad format when Aggro, Combo, control and midrange are not represented.

I think it's a bad format when you have to play a certain colour to be competitive.

I think it's a bad format when I am unable to find any decks I enjoy playing.

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:10 pm
by zemanjaski
grats on third
Thanks. Hopefully I can do better next time.

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:11 pm
by zemanjaski
Legacy is gas. BUG Delver all the way.

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:14 pm
by Lightning_Dolt
If you enjoy that sort of thing.

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:17 pm
by zemanjaski
There isn't really a reason for aggro to be viable in legacy really; control and tempo have access to all the cheapest interaction and the ever-present threat if combo means that you can't play goldfish decks. The aggro decks that do exist play a more complete game plan and are successful within that space.

No one should want mono red commons to be competitive in eternal formats.

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:19 pm
by Lightning_Dolt
Nice, new Sorin seems playable / sweet.

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:20 pm
by Khaospawn
Lightning Bolt is still Red. And a common.

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:21 pm
by Khaospawn
Actually, Rift Bolt, Lava Spike, Searing Blaze, Flame Rift, and Fireblast are Red commons too.

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:21 pm
by Khaospawn
I'm just gonna leave now.

:scrump:

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:22 pm
by zemanjaski
Reading comprehension is an uncommon though.

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:22 pm
by Lightning_Dolt
No one should want mono red commons to be competitive in eternal formats.
Mono red commons is not the only thing I enjoy. I like playing fair and interactive games.

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:22 pm
by Khaospawn
And common sense is a mythic rare.

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:23 pm
by Mcdonalds
No, I think it's a bad format when Aggro, Combo, control and midrange are not represented.

I think it's a bad format when you have to play a certain colour to be competitive.

I think it's a bad format when I am unable to find any decks I enjoy playing.
You realize that given Wizards largely designs set so combo ISN'T viable in standard, I guess every standard season since time spiral (ignoring post banning Zendikar-Scars) has been bad as well.

Thus, the only good format is edh

:stupid:

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:24 pm
by Lightning_Dolt
Deadguy Ale and Evagreen were the closest things to legacy decks I liked.

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:24 pm
by Khaospawn
No one should want mono red commons to be competitive in eternal formats.
Mono red commons is not the only thing I enjoy. I like playing fair and interactive games.
Keith....competitive Magic is most certainly not fair and interactive.