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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 9:53 pm
by Khaospawn
It's spread sideways.

:lol: Like a vagina.

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 9:55 pm
by Kaitscralt
(Format dependent) ^
I'm glad you at least added that.
Only so some neckbeard doesn't use a deck they don't play in a format they don't play as semantical posturing

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 9:55 pm
by Dechs Kaison
Let me explain.

Objectively, I understand the math. With a seven or six card hand and only one land, it looks like a bunch of great cards. I know that the math favors me drawing at least one more land very soon. I can know that the deck has a low curve or that I don't need to draw four lands in a row to stand a chance.

Subjectively, though, I know that if I only drew one land, it's probably because I didn't shuffle well enough and they're all clumped somewhere.

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 9:57 pm
by Kaitscralt
I don't think an explanation is necessary

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:03 pm
by Khaospawn
(Format dependent) ^
I'm glad you at least added that.
Only so some neckbeard doesn't use a deck they don't play in a format they don't play as semantical posturing
That'll keep those wannabe Vintage players quiet! :scrump:

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:04 pm
by Khaospawn
Madding can do no wrong in my eyes for at least....the rest of this year simply for adding/finding/doing whatever he did to get that Scrump picture.

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:05 pm
by Kaitscralt
I think it should be said that going for the glory with a 1 lander sometimes (as in very rarely) doesn't make you a bad player. Accepting that you may need a gift from the gods to beat a particular matchup and having the perfect hand to do it if you draw only one more land for the next 5 turns means you may fall to temptation. Luck is part of the game, fun is part of the game. You're supposed to decrease chance and luck as much as possible, so you should still probably mulligan, but there's nothing wrong with "going for it" as long as you know it's wrong. It's the players that blame their losses on a bad luck mulligan and use that an excuse to keep more one landers that are the bad players. If you can't ever learn to stop doing it, or are looking for reasons to keep doing it, then you won't find much success in this game. But once in a blue moon on mtgo or FNM? Sure.

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:10 pm
by zemanjaski
Everyone shut up there's a Goblin Electromancer, Steam Augury, Spellheart Chimera deck in standard.

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:13 pm
by Kaitscralt
just don't keep no landers like me

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:14 pm
by Kaitscralt
Everyone shut up there's a Goblin Electromancer, Steam Augury, Spellheart Chimera deck in standard.
no there isn't

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:14 pm
by Khaospawn
Everyone shut up there's a Goblin Electromancer, Steam Augury, Spellheart Chimera deck in standard.
You forgot to add this: :scrump:

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:15 pm
by Khaospawn
In before Spam's "Khaos did the FoS proud by going x-2 in a daily and shall be henceforth known as Scrumps McKenzie."

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:18 pm
by Kaitscralt
How about Mister FNM

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:19 pm
by Elricity
Seriously, define "deck".

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:19 pm
by zemanjaski
Everyone shut up there's a Goblin Electromancer, Steam Augury, Spellheart Chimera deck in standard.
no there isn't
A boy can dream.

Skype to discuss m15 limited soon?

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:19 pm
by LP, of the Fires
One landers are also deck and hand dependant. With boss sligh, you keep 90% of 1 landers.

With burn, probably 1 in 3, you need a lot to go right with the hand.

Monsters, at least a scry land and a mana dork, but a caryatid works if you have enough other interaction to go with it.

The key to a 1 lander is how much can you do with the second land. Is the hand made or are you now stuck with needing the 3rd and 4th land cause then your % starts spiraling downwards.

With say mono-blue, you can gladly keep triple 1 drop, thassa and any other garbage, because your 3 1 drops are worth approximately 7 damage if you hit up to thassa and if add the number of lands plus the number of remaining 1-drops in your deck, you have good odds to still play magic if you brick for a while. I've won several games with just 2 lands getting there. Hell, I played against greg hatch where he kept a 1 lander, and failed to hit a second land
drop for a turn and never hit the third over 8 draw steps but had an army of familiars, raptors and weirds that where EASILY holding my stormbreaths at bay.

Mono-black? NOOOOOOOOOOO, unless you're playing like a mirror match with multiple thoughtseizes and bile blights or something like that. Context is king.

You can also be on the mull all one landers plan and do fine. LSV and PV are on opposite ends of the mulling spectrum respectivaly and PV has 9(?) PT top 8s while LSV had a streak of winning over 30 straight Premier event swiss matches(stretched across multiple GPs and PTs).

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:20 pm
by Khaospawn
How about Mister FNM
Do I get my own calendar?

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:22 pm
by LP, of the Fires
Also, yes, there are matchups that come up from time to time where you need to get lucky to win and any number of "bad" things are correct.

There have been several PT top 8 matches where testing has concluded that matchups where so bad that the players just boarded out a bunch of lands to try and get lucky to win(most recent I can recall being Sam Black V Wraptor at PT Philly for modern and an OLD one is Tsuyoshi Fujita at like, worlds in the mid 2000s vs. I don't remeber).

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:23 pm
by Khaospawn
Remember when Stanislav Cifka kept a no lander with Eggs versus Watanabe, who was playing Jund? Man, that match. Many lolz were had that day.

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:24 pm
by Khaospawn
Much Eggs. Such lolz.

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:25 pm
by zemanjaski
Seriously, define "deck".
Shut your face.

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:26 pm
by Khaospawn
:rofl:

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:27 pm
by Khaospawn
James just reminded of that Foot Soldier that bitchslaps April O'Neil in the original TMNT movie.

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:27 pm
by Khaospawn
I deliver a message....SHUT IT! *slap*

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:35 pm
by Kaitscralt
and then brutally rapes her on screen

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:36 pm
by Kaitscralt
Everyone shut up there's a Goblin Electromancer, Steam Augury, Spellheart Chimera deck in standard.
no there isn't
A boy can dream.

Skype to discuss m15 limited soon?
I'm never not logged into Skype, if you're wondering why I rarely respond to "the boy who cried Skype" anymore

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:45 pm
by Elricity
Seriously, define "deck".
Shut your face.
:D

Finally found the list you were talking about. I admit I stopped reading that article when I saw the 21 land mono green build.

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:56 pm
by LP, of the Fires
I'm now apart of the party and I stopped reading the article when I saw the words "spellheart" and "chimera" side by side.

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:59 pm
by Stardust
Maybe he just meant that that deck is technically legal for play in Standard...

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:03 pm
by Khaospawn
What article is this?

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:09 pm
by Elricity
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/article.asp?ID=11941

It's the last deck in the article. I'm not clear what Electromancer is supposed to do here without the card draw to back it up. Was more exciting when flashback was around. Maybe someone gives you a very nice Augury pile.

Looks FNM style fun though.

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:18 pm
by Valdarith
As much as I want UR to be a thing in Standard, that deck is not good.

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:18 pm
by Khaospawn
Buncha muff cabbage if you ask me.

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:21 pm
by LP, of the Fires
Somewhere across the ocean, the marsupials wail in the night channel the anguish that is Z's failed attempts to play UR in standard.

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:39 pm
by zemanjaski
:'(

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:53 pm
by Lightning_Dolt
OBS isn't compatible with my new video ca4d for some reason. Can anyone recommend any alternatives?

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:57 pm
by magicdownunder
OBS isn't compatible with my new video ca4d for some reason. Can anyone recommend any alternatives?
I've listed two in this thread - you can also try YouTube Live (which is free).

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 12:06 am
by Lightning_Dolt
OBS isn't compatible with my new video ca4d for some reason. Can anyone recommend any alternatives?
I've listed two in this thread - you can also try YouTube Live (which is free).
Thanks MDU :)

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 12:08 am
by Lightning_Dolt
Do you have any experience with youtube live?

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 12:10 am
by magicdownunder
Do you have any experience with youtube live?
I know it works since I've tested it Lazerburn but beyond that no :tears:

Its basically Twitch but without the OBS :p