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Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 10:38 am
by Lightning_Dolt
No use for Delver or YP$?
Let's apply critical analysis before we post!
No.
Looks like I rolled a 5.
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 11:04 am
by zemanjaski
You need to take some ownership of asking without thinking.
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 11:05 am
by magicdownunder
I wonder what wizard was thinking when they reprinted
Back to Nature for standard.... kill all hope for Bx Aggro or G enchantment decks post-rotations
lowering my free wins and stuff 
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Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 11:39 am
by TBuzzsaw
Back to Nature kills and rapes my Hexproof deck.
Time to switch back to burn or to Mono Green Devotion.
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 11:46 am
by Yarpus
This card is really fucking good.
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 12:14 pm
by Khaospawn
Dang! They put a Meteorite in this set!

Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 3:16 pm
by Khaospawn
Riding rollercoasters all day at Busch Gardens.
Joygasm.
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 3:36 pm
by PirateKingAtomsk
pillar of light looks nice 2w instant exile target creature toughness 4 or greater
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 3:51 pm
by Kaitscralt
looks like black definitely got shit on this core set, which i am fine with considering its recent reign
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 4:18 pm
by Elricity
pillar of light looks nice 2w instant exile target creature toughness 4 or greater
Far better than reprisal right now in the meta as far as creatures it hits vs misses
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 5:14 pm
by Lightning_Dolt
You need to take some ownership of asking without thinking.
I did think. My thought process was, good decks in modern often come from mashing together two existing strategies (kiki control and tarmo twin are two that come to me off the top of my head). Your colours support it and your spell count is very high.
Something like this is what I had in mind.
[deck]Creatures (14)
4 Snapcaster Mage
4 Delver of Secrets
4 Young Pyromancer
2 Vendilion Clique
Enchantments (3)
3 Blood Moon
Spells (18)
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Serum Visions
3 Spell Snare
3 Mana Leak
3 Remand
3 Electrolyze
2 Cryptic Command
Lands (23)
1 Desolate Lighthouse
8 Island
4 Misty Rainforest
1 Mountain
4 Scalding Tarn
3 Steam Vents
2 Sulfur Falls[/deck]
nNow you can feel free to call that decklist terrible, but I think it's worth at least thinking about possibilities, rather than just immediately discarding them. Either way, The deck list you proposed (to me) is missing something, and that's what I was trying to point out. If you don't like the suggestion of Delver / YP$, what about adding Splinter Twin, Deceiver Exarch, Kiki or Pestermite? You deck basically seems like this deck without the combo:
http://www.mtgo-stats.com/archetypes/Modern/RU5
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 5:34 pm
by Kaitscralt
why would zem, someone who considers himself a revolutionary deckbuilder, consider something out of the box and different when he can just tweak 2 cards on someone elses blue moon list and call it his own creation?
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 5:34 pm
by Kaitscralt
you're not taking owenrship of asking without thinking
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 5:37 pm
by DroppinSuga
You need to take ownership of your miserable existence.
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 6:06 pm
by Lightning_Dolt
you're not taking owenrship of asking without thinking
I know I might come across that way, but it's because I admit that I know less than certain people on this forum. I'm reaching out to those with more knowledge and experience than me. It's typically to people that I respect. If you guys want me to be arrogant and just insist that I'm right all the time, I can do that too.
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 6:08 pm
by Kaitscralt
i was engaging in the art of jokery
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 6:10 pm
by Lightning_Dolt
The whole point of this forum is to engage and communicate and trade ideas. It's helped me to grow from the scrubbiest of scrubs into a competent player. But that doesn't happen without discussion. Half of discussion is questions. I respect you very much too Kait.
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 6:34 pm
by rcwraspy
a bit late to the discussion, but my LGS's FNM-level constructed events are all 4 rounds regardless of attendance and pay out down to 2-1-1 as the worst record that gets money back. It's store credit. Buy-in is $5, and the afore-mentioned 2-1-1 gets $6. The catch is that there are a lot of very strong players at that LGS. The guys who top 8 all the local PTQs, GPTs, $5ks, and Opens attend that LGS. But most people will draw round 4 if it puts both players "in the money."
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:07 pm
by hamfactorial
You need to take ownership of your miserable existence.
I had ownership, but I got ripped in a trade on Sally.
#spurned
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:13 pm
by Lightning_Dolt
Uh oh, Ham turned on the #spurned signal. SheSpurnedMe will be here anytime now.
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:17 pm
by Khaospawn
I am the terror that spurns in the night!
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:21 pm
by hamfactorial
Uh oh, Ham turned on the #spurned signal. SheSpurnedMe will be here anytime now.
Hold onto your butts!
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:22 pm
by hamfactorial
Uh oh, Ham turned on the #spurned signal. SheSpurnedMe will be here anytime now.
I imagine the spurned signal is just an outline of a flaccid penis against a cloudy sky
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:27 pm
by Lightning_Dolt
SPURN TO ME!
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 9:47 pm
by hamfactorial
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 10:52 pm
by Kaitscralt
the spurn signal is a beacon in the sky in the shape of a guy reading his wifes emails
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 11:39 pm
by Khaospawn
You wanna know how I got these spurns?
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 11:54 pm
by DroppinSuga
I'm a page in your dossier, but you're just a line in a forum post
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 12:16 am
by zemanjaski
why would zem, someone who considers himself a revolutionary deckbuilder, consider something out of the box and different when he can just tweak 2 cards on someone elses blue moon list and call it his own creation?
Try harder madding

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 12:20 am
by DroppinSuga
#SheSpurnedMadding
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 12:23 am
by zemanjaski
You need to take some ownership of asking without thinking.
I did think. My thought process was, good decks in modern often come from mashing together two existing strategies (kiki control and tarmo twin are two that come to me off the top of my head). Your colours support it and your spell count is very high.
Something like this is what I had in mind.
[deck]Creatures (14)
4 Snapcaster Mage
4 Delver of Secrets
4 Young Pyromancer
2 Vendilion Clique
Enchantments (3)
3 Blood Moon
Spells (18)
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Serum Visions
3 Spell Snare
3 Mana Leak
3 Remand
3
Electrolyze
2 Cryptic Command
Lands (23)
1 Desolate Lighthouse
8 Island
4 Misty Rainforest
1 Mountain
4 Scalding Tarn
3 Steam Vents
2 Sulfur Falls[/deck]
Now you can feel free to call that decklist terrible, but I think it's worth at least thinking about possibilities, rather than just immediately discarding them. Either way, The deck list you proposed (to me) is missing something, and that's what I was trying to point out. If you don't like the suggestion of Delver / YP$, what about adding Splinter Twin, Deceiver Exarch, Kiki or Pestermite? You deck basically seems like this deck without the combo:
http://www.mtgo-stats.com/archetypes/Modern/RU5
The issues are:
- asking about including cards without explaining why they compliment the strategy or what they would replace isn't helpful.
- blue moon is an established archetype so you're going to need to expand on what
it's missing
- adding cards that are valueless without another piece just makes your deck way more inconsistent; if you want to play twin then play twin properly
- Kiki control is not a very good deck; it's just ok and has already fallen out of favour. it's worse than UWR which is only tier 2. Of course, tiers aren't than meaningful in modern, but the idea that mashing two decks together will make a good deck isn't something that always happens; it's something that's happened once.
The first point is the most annoying; don't be like the bads that post in TCG articles.
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 12:33 am
by Second Harkius
madding insults anything that threatens him which is why he insults everything
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 1:22 am
by Kaitscralt
all spurned me
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 1:38 am
by Kaitscralt
have you ever wondered what the voice of the devil sounds like? did you ever expect it would sound like every other nerd in the whole world?
please visit my limited videos thread if you like draft and sealed, provide feedback and let me know if you'd like to see more videos on the DTR front page
viewtopic.php?f=47&t=2777&p=241221#p241221
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDsLWFKiAOM
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 1:56 am
by zemanjaski
I can vouch Mike sounds like an Angel.
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 2:03 am
by DroppinSuga
I masturbated to your voice.
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 2:04 am
by Second Harkius
better watch the video before he deletes it forever which he will.
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 2:11 am
by Kaitscralt
better watch the video before he deletes it forever which he will.
this is not wrong
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 2:21 am
by Kaitscralt
please let me know if the video is not starting at the beginning for you, i've been experiencing some weirdness with youtube