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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 9:57 pm
by Pendulum

I don't think you fully understand what the GRRR is. It's not a thread made to badmouth anyone (well, except for :ER: we badmouth him there all the time). It's just a place where the mods come together and chill, say hi, troll each other for fun (and it is for fun, no one is disrespected there). Asking to make the GRRRR public is like asking me to publicly reveal my AIM chat logs with Person X (whoever it is). There's no point in that.
Anyway, as far as transparency goes, we started this thread to have user input on current site affairs. Instead I see posts and posts of personal crusades... Were we wrong to bet on transparency? I'd like to see more people posting their opinions about the matters at hand (you know?
That post Sene made? the first ITT...).
They were wrong to "bet on transparency", but they knew they were wrong, at least they knew sub-consciously. Those threads are nothing but corporal mortification. CI is the greatest S/M dungeon in the history of sadism. The pervert staff needs it, it hurts so good. :ugh:
Lololololol.
People air their grievances to staff? Posts and posts of personal crusades.
Staff airs their grievances to people? Transparency and finally putting the trolls in their place.

It's a fascinating phenomena, yet well documented, that the last horse race of the night is the money-maker for the house. The betters are tired, probably drunk as a skunk, and looking to make the evening miraculous.

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 10:02 pm
by Kaitscralt
Like a statue that is bettered by the sculptors it inspires ;
like a monument to nothing great and nothing to remember .

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 10:08 pm
by Sir Sapphire the 3rd
I just find it odd that Az, a guy who was a good admin (all be it for a short time) and also gives a damn about the community is not let back on staff or even mod lounge consultant.

Meanwhile another guy (Ria) who went a little crazy during his admin time, has become a mod lounge consultant and Expired Rascals even suggested he would like Ria back on the staff. Not that I have anything personal against Ria, I just find it strange.
See this is the end result of taking cum shots to the face. Az decided working and doing shit was better for the site while ria decided to better himself is to shower his face in it.

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 10:21 pm
by Kaitscralt
When in reality doing nothing is best for everyone, always.

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 10:41 pm
by Mogadishu Jones
I just find it odd that Az, a guy who was a good admin (all be it for a short time) and also gives a damn about the community is not let back on staff or even mod lounge consultant.

Meanwhile another guy (Ria) who went a little crazy during his admin time, has become a mod lounge consultant and Expired Rascals even suggested he would like Ria back on the staff. Not that I have anything personal against Ria, I just find it strange.
Ever heard of the words patronage or cronyism?

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 10:55 pm
by Pendulum
Sloth is also relevant to the lexicon.

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 10:56 pm
by Pendulum
Not pride, though.

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:42 pm
by kingcobweb
the ~state of the community~ thread is a train wreck and y'all should be ashamed of yourselves and your terrible posts



harkius needs to take the next logical step and delete his posts immediately after making them

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:54 pm
by Kaitscralt
the ~state of the community~ thread is a train wreck and y'all should be ashamed of yourselves and your terrible posts



harkius needs to take the next logical step and delete his posts immediately after making them
I recommended that they cease such threads but apparently Sene does not want my opinion.

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:59 pm
by kingcobweb
ban harkius

ban whoever that guy is that keeps whining about teia

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:59 pm
by kingcobweb
unban N_S then go "lol jk" and ban him repeatedly

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:10 am
by Manders
I just find it odd that Az, a guy who was a good admin (all be it for a short time) and also gives a damn about the community is not let back on staff or even mod lounge consultant.

Meanwhile another guy (Ria) who went a little crazy during his admin time, has become a mod lounge consultant and Expired Rascals even suggested he would like Ria back on the staff. Not that I have anything personal against Ria, I just find it strange.
Ever heard of the words patronage or cronyism?
This.

I seriously encourage any Sally mod (ER himself, perhaps?) to explain
how ria is a consultant and Azrael is not. I would love to know the logic behind THIS decision.

Oh, and Happy New Year, everyone! Now go piss up a rope!!

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:17 am
by Kaitscralt
The consultant position is stupid. Get rid of it.

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:49 am
by Shalako
the ~state of the community~ thread is a train wreck and y'all should be ashamed of yourselves and your terrible posts



harkius needs to take the next logical step and delete his posts immediately after making them
People who type "y'all" on the internet are stupid. Also why should I care what some nobody says about the quality of my posts?

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:55 am
by Kaitscralt
Wasn't he talking to the iridium? Seems weird to lump in a comment towards you or other banned members between comments about the State thread.

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:57 am
by Shalako
He's not quoting any staff and the person with the post before him isn't staff. I assume he just hates the Gutter and came here to post about how much he hates the Gutter.

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 2:00 am
by Kaitscralt
:sleep:

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 2:02 am
by Azrael
I just find it odd that Az, a guy who was a good admin (all be it for a short time) and also gives a damn about the community is not let back on staff or even mod lounge consultant.

Meanwhile another guy (Ria) who went a little crazy during his admin time, has become a mod lounge consultant and Expired Rascals even suggested he would like Ria back on the staff. Not that I have anything personal against Ria, I just find it strange.
There are a lot of people on staff now who a) have no idea what I've done aside from CI warrioring and gloves, and consider gloves the moral equivalent of pedophilia and b) people like Senori who just violently dislike/disagree with me c) people who resented my coming on board to "fix" the staff d)
people who are familiar with all my old history but just didn't fight that hard for me.

And several of the admins/mods have weird ideas about me that they never bothered to approach me about openly. Like, Galspanic thought I was trying to create a double standard of rules for mods and users in order to protect Lucknorris from getting fired for underage trading - if he'd bothered to check admin lounge, he'd have seen my change my mind as soon as we stopped focusing on how silly and unimportant the rule was and the words "double standard" came up in discussion. Expired Rascals thinks I'm deceptive because my statements about how I feel about gloves are supposed to be inconsistent - saying that I made mistakes during it on one hand, but also thinking there was good reason to make the thread.

On the other hand, the mod lounge consultant position was probably made with me in mind. But the politics, especially in relation to lower staff, have made my coming on board problematic. I'm viewed
as a polarizing figure - probably quite true, and some of the lower staff called out admin on coming up with the position as a way to "sneak" me back into the fold, which seemed to make them pretty skittish about following through at the time.

Compound that with a lot of people privately twisting my words in my mod app in private to portray me as going on an ego trip/savior complex, and there you have it.

Frankly, though, if they can continue not to screw up as badly as the team from 6 months to a year ago, I'm quite happy to see current admin manage things without my having to get my hands dirty. I have enough on my plate, and most likely I would immediately want to resign as soon as I was given any position of authority. Even mod lounge consultant might be more work than I'm interested in - arguing with people's bad ideas in the lounge is a full-time job.

It would be worthwhile if it could be parlayed into bringing reasonable discussion on some of the gutter-fallout decisions, but its
a pretty energy-draining and ultimately tedious position. And my patience with them is at a pretty low ebb at this point, which wouldn't be helpful right now.

Its much more peaceful, over here.

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 2:06 am
by Kaitscralt
I want to know what Azrael's eyes look like when he is talking about himself. Quite beautiful I imagine.

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 2:10 am
by Azrael
Eeyore crossed with puss in boots crossed with that dude in who killed roger rabbit.

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 2:12 am
by Kaitscralt
:gonk:

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 2:24 am
by Second Harkius
ER thinking you're deceptive is a joke. he goes out of his way to keep the site in a perpetual state of statis because it allows him to foster his fake virtual community and feel self important. having you, a proactive idealist, around is contrary to these aims, Az. you being staff would also be a constant reminder of the failures of all the upper level staffers who got undeserved promotions after you left. if they're trying to paint you as a savior in your mod app, it's because they have a deep seated jealously towards the transparent atmosphere you created in your short admin tenure.

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 2:27 am
by Second Harkius
Image

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 2:29 am
by Second Harkius
nietzsche was one of the first gutter members btw

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 3:56 am
by Kaitscralt
So let's set CI on fire
We can burn brighter than the sun

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:39 am
by Sir Sapphire the 3rd
But if that sun is blotted?

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:45 am
by Pendulum
My seat's been taken by some sunglasses

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 11:28 am
by kingcobweb
Azrael wanted to take his gloves off so he could take out his wallet.
this post is so good

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:08 pm
by Kaitscralt
Get used to it.

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 2:44 pm
by Mogadishu Jones
He created us, and we ate him.

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 3:22 pm
by Yannaria
MTGS is dead - Neiztsche

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 5:52 pm
by Manders
I want to know what Azrael's eyes look like when he is talking about himself. Quite beautiful I imagine.
Eeyore crossed with puss in boots crossed with that dude in who killed roger rabbit.
:gonk:
Best sequence ITT.

[quote="kingcobweb ยป Fri Dec 28, 2012 5:28 am&
quot;]
Azrael wanted to take his gloves off so he could take out his wallet.
this post is so good[/quote]
Get used to it.
Second best.

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 8:05 pm
by Kaitscralt
Baidu Bot is up to something.

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 8:30 pm
by Blackhound
Hello Talore, which Admin/Global do you think was the leak ?

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 8:36 pm
by Kaitscralt
Blackhound I don't mean to alarm you but Megiddo has a sniper rifle fixed on your location.

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 8:42 pm
by Blackhound
Britain today.

In York it is perfectly legal to shoot a Scotsman with a crossbow upon seeing one, except for on Sundays. However any Scotsman caught drunk or with a weapon can still be shot on a Sunday, except with a bow and arrow.

Similarly in Chester it is legal to shoot a Welsh person with a crossbow, as long as it is within the city walls and is done after midnight.

Luckily enough though also in Chester, Welsh people aren't allowed to enter the city grounds before sunrise and from staying after sunset.

In London it has been illegal for a man to hit his wife after 9pm.

Whales washed ashore dead are the legal property of the King and Queen of the country at the time. The head belongs to the king and the tail belongs to the queen.

All wild deer, swans and bears are also the property of the royal family.

The eating of Mince pies on Christmas day is illegal. It was once also illegal to celebrate Christmas
altogether because it wasn't considered puritan enough even though it was a religious celebration.

The leader of the country is entitled to a pig given to him by the royal family on the first day of every month.

It is also illegal to impersonate old age pensioners in the London area of Chelsea.

Hackney Carriages (the London Taxi association) must carry a bale of hay and a sack of oats at all times by law. They are also prohibited to carry rabid dogs or dead bodies by law.

It is also now illegal for a taxi driver to stop in certain parts of London for a fare to go to a cash machine (ATM).

However it is also illegal to fall asleep on a Bus in London at any time.

It is illegal to pick up unattended or abandoned baggage.

It is an executable offense to allow your pet to mate with a pet of the royal house without permission.

It is illegal to stand within one hundred yards of a ruling monarch without socks on.

Defacing or destroying anything bearing a likeness of the monarch is illegal.
This includes burning paper money or tearing a stamp apart.

MPs (elected officials similar to councilors or senators) aren't allowed to wear armor in Parliament since 1313 to prevent fighting and dueling within the walls.

It is illegal to leave your car keys in an unoccupied vehicle.

It is illegal do die within the houses of parliament.

By law headlights on cars must be on at all times when he vehicle is in motion, even in broad daylight so as to distinguish it from parked cars.

By law it is legal for a pregnant woman to relieve herself anywhere she wishes.

Suicide is a capital crime.

It is law that you need to have a license for a t.v set.

A license is also required to keep or house a lunatic.

It is illegal to either shave, work or to mow your lawn on a Sunday.

Tarot card readings and fortune telling are illegal as these are classed as forms of witchcraft.

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 8:53 pm
by Pendulum
We have a local law on the books making it illegal to run a political campaign against an incumbent mayor.

You should do a Leakers Spreadsheet, blackhound, listing each possibility along with %ChanceofLeaking and SeverityOfLeak columns. Then we could each fill one out and compare, I think it'd be a fascinating sociological experiment.

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 8:54 pm
by Blackhound
We have a local law on the books making it illegal to run a political campaign against an incumbent mayor.

You should do a Leakers Spreadsheet, blackhound, listing each possibility along with %ChanceofLeaking and SeverityOfLeak columns. Then we could each fill one out and compare, I think it'd be a fascinating sociological experiment.
Give me a few days.

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 9:09 pm
by Kaitscralt
Megiddo's contractors have dubbed him the Plumber and he has never failed a job.

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 9:13 pm
by Pendulum
And I heard, as it were, the sound of thunder. And one of the four beasts saying, come and see, and I saw. And behold, a pale horse, and the name that was on his was Death, and Hell followed with him.