Dies to Removal

We'll see.

Aye, cursed pride is on this shit. He's town today.

If you think I'm town, how come you aren't voting for me as the Judge?

Because I'm voting me - the only person I know for sure is town today.

what information do you gain from this line of play?

Cultist, what?

Oh, the faction thing?

Because, CM told me we'll all be factions eventually. We have no idea what the factions will be. From what the rules are saying, I think there's a Cartel head or two, and they'll be Town. I believe the Police are already scum and will stay that way throughout the game. I have no idea how they handled "if you attempt to recruit Scum" scenarios, though.

This is why I was hesitant to play this game. Too many unknowns in the mechanics.

This is all pretty weird to me.

When I interpreted the mechanics, I took the Judge as a Kingmaker/King role that could "execute" someone, with a few bells and whistles. The police at the bottom felt like the cop/priest in
this setup, so I have no idea where you get the idea that the police are "always scum". I found the recruiting, plus the flavor of the cartels vs the police, as being a cult.

Can you walk me through your thought process at.. assuming the exact opposite of what I wrote? Because your assumptions are pretty darn foreign to me, and I'd like to know where you're at.

Any real reason why you guys posted these after I mentioned it?

Didn't read your post/s yet

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quot;Cursed_Pride » Sat Mar 01, 2014 12:49 am"]
Any real reason why you guys posted these after I mentioned it?

I hadn't read your business yet.[/quote]

Huh, taking the easy way out. Okay.

(There is a Preview post function)

Regardless, self-voting is frowned upon in Mafia. Some mods include suicide mechanics against this.

Plus, WE don't know you're Town. If everyone insists on voting themselves to be safe, the game will go nowhere.

I get the nagging suspicion you are laying it on a bit thick here.

IGMEOY too.

I agree with this, though.

Lynch Player: Kazekirimaru

(this will be my FoS, or "vote", this game)

Aye, cursed pride is on this shit. He's town today.

If you think I'm town, how come you aren't voting for me as the Judge?

Because I'm voting me - the only person I know for sure is town today.

what information do you gain
from this line of play?

Hi!

Have you read me?

Aye, cursed pride is on this shit. He's town today.

If you think I'm town, how come you aren't voting for me as the Judge?

Because I'm voting me - the only person I know for sure is town today.

Regardless, self-voting is frowned upon
in Mafia. Some mods include suicide mechanics against this.

Plus, WE don't know you're Town. If everyone insists on voting themselves to be safe, the game will go nowhere.

I get the nagging suspicion you are laying it on a bit thick here.

IGMEOY too.

Did you ignore my post?

what information do you gain from this line of play?

I'm not trying to gain information yet. I'm just kinda here with my sharp stick, poking at bushes.

Huh, taking the easy way out. Okay.

(There is a Preview post function)

It was a longish post and I don't PEDIT ever so I was just kinda like "meh submit"

Cultist, what?

Oh, the faction thing?

Because, CM told me we'll all be factions eventually. We have no idea what the factions will be. From what the rules are saying, I think there's a Cartel head or two, and they'll be Town. I believe the Police are already scum and will stay that way throughout the game. I have no idea how they handled "if you attempt to recruit Scum" scenarios, though.

This is why I was hesitant to play this game. Too many unknowns in the mechanics.

This is all pretty weird to me.

When I interpreted the mechanics, I
took the Judge as a Kingmaker/King role that could "execute" someone, with a few bells and whistles. The police at the bottom felt like the cop/priest in this setup, so I have no idea where you get the idea that the police are "always scum". I found the recruiting, plus the flavor of the cartels vs the police, as being a cult.

Can you walk me through your thought process at.. assuming the exact opposite of what I wrote? Because your assumptions are pretty darn foreign to me, and I'd like to know where you're at.

Sure.

Police at night can attempt to investigate a player. All successful investigations by the Police are made public and the judge will decide the fate of the player. All judge choices are also made public.

Players sent away do not count towards the number of players in a faction.

Once a majority of votes on a player are reached, that day is over and the following day the player voted will be the judge. Anyone can become a
Judge.

Cartels will attempt to recruit at night by selling drugs.

The win con for all factions is to become the majority faction.

Hmm. Actually, now that I read it again, I don't think the Scum are Police. In fact, I don't think there is a definite scum team. I'd assumed, since this is Mafia, that there was one, and that, based on the name of the game and the mechanics, that it would be the Police, but that first part snuffs out that theory.

So, I guess it is more cult-like.

I swear I read this, but I've slept since then.

Huh, taking the easy way out. Okay.

(There is a Preview post function)

It was a longish post and I don't PEDIT ever so I was just kinda like "meh submit"

Okay.

what information do you gain from this line of play?[/quote:
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I'm not trying to gain information yet. I'm just kinda here with my sharp stick, poking at bushes.

Who are you poking at?

Your play has been largely reactive so far.

Huh, taking the easy way out. Okay.

(There is a Preview post function)

It was a longish post and I don't PEDIT ever so I was just kinda like "meh submit"

Even when the site shows you posts that have been made since you last read and says you should probably review what was posted since then?

You still ignore them??

You should probably stop doing that in Mafia.

Huh, taking the easy way out. Okay.

(There is a Preview post function)

It was a longish post and I don't PEDIT ever so I was just kinda like "meh submit"

Okay.

Wait, why did you just accept that response?

You don't question it's validity at all?

Anyone.

And I agree. I'm not planning on gunning down anyone yet - not until I have a better grasp of what we're dealing with. This game is pretty odd. I'm starting to suspect - based on the "become the majority faction" global win con, that this game will have zero kills (save for maybe some random vig role) and it's going to be all about getting the most player slots under your belt in a mafia-themed game of hungry hungry hippos

Even when the site shows you posts that have been made since you last read and says you should probably review what was posted since then?

You still ignore them??

You should probably stop doing that in Mafia.

I prefer not to change what I'm posting at the time. It helps me clearly show my thought process.

Not saying I ignore them completely - if there's something worth addressing in them i'll do so, as you can see by now.

i do the same thing

STOP DOING THAT, YOU FUCKERS.

Nah.

Hmm. Actually, now that I read it again, I don't think the Scum are Police. In fact, I don't think there is a definite scum team. I'd assumed, since this is Mafia, that there was one, and that, based on the name of the game and the mechanics, that it would be the Police, but that first part snuffs out that theory.

So, I guess it is more cult-like.

I swear I read this, but I've slept since then.

Where did the "Cartel Heads are probably town" came from?

Wait, why did you just
accept that response?

You don't question it's validity at all?

I don't think I'm going to get anywhere with the Preview Post rabbithole. -I still think he's scum, though.

Anyone.

And I agree. I'm not planning on gunning down anyone yet - not until I have a better grasp of what we're dealing with. This game is pretty odd. I'm starting to suspect - based on the "become the majority faction" global win con, that this game will have zero kills (save for maybe some random vig role) and it's going to be all about getting the most player slots under your belt in a mafia-themed game of hungry hungry hippos

"I'm not planning on scumhunting, but I'll gladly speculate about the setup."

I'll gladly lend my vote to anyone who campaigns on a platform to oppose the Kazekirimaru
bill.

-or you could vote for me

You really should think a little harder before you attempt to play this game.

It should be perfectly reasonable to you that I'd rather speculate about the setup than scumhunt in a game like this(at this stage, especially.)

I'm treating this as nigh-bastard(cults are bastard on my homesite, anyhow) and in a bastard game you have to figure out what gameboard you're playing with before you start moving pieces.

Vote: Hamfactorial

Because you broke my heart last game. That being said,

Unvote: Hamfactorial

And I agree. I'm not planning on gunning down anyone yet - not until I have a better grasp of what we're dealing with. This game is pretty odd. I'm starting to suspect - based on the "become the majority faction" global win con, that this game will have zero kills (save for maybe some random vig role) and it's going to be all about getting the most player slots under your belt in a mafia-themed game of hungry hungry hippos

The intro post mentions the lack of lynching and nightkills. I had to
turn to the mafia wiki in regards to the "cult" bit being discussed so I could put myself on the same page here and that makes a bit more sense to me.

The thing I'm interested in is the Judge mechanic. Voting makes a player the Judge, not setting them up for a lynch. I don't know if anyone else has played with something similar to this, but my question is when a player is made Judge, are the choices listed in regards to themselves or toward other players?

Hmm. Actually, now that I read it again, I don't think the Scum are Police. In fact, I don't think there is a definite scum team. I'd assumed, since this is Mafia, that there was one, and that, based on the name of the game and the mechanics, that it would be the Police, but that first part snuffs out that theory.

So, I guess it is more cult-like.

I swear I read this, but I've slept since then.

Where did the "Cartel Heads are probably town" came from?

The reverse
of Police being Scum. I went into the game thinking this from the beginning because I know how CM feels about cops.

Wait, why did you just accept that response?

You don't question it's validity at all?

I don't think I'm going to get anywhere with the Preview Post rabbithole. -I still think he's scum, though.

Fair enough, though if my theory (now) is correct, there is no scum.

Anyone.

And I agree. I'm not planning on gunning down anyone yet - not until I have a better grasp of what we're dealing with. This game is pretty odd. I'm starting to suspect - based on the "become the majority faction"
global win con, that this game will have zero kills (save for maybe some random vig role) and it's going to be all about getting the most player slots under your belt in a mafia-themed game of hungry hungry hippos

"I'm not planning on scumhunting, but I'll gladly speculate about the setup."

I'll gladly lend my vote to anyone who campaigns on a platform to oppose the Kazekirimaru bill.

-or you could vote for me

Based on circumstances so far, no way would I vote Kaze for Judge.

The thing I'm interested in is the Judge mechanic. Voting makes a player the Judge, not setting them up for a lynch. I don't know if anyone else has played with something similar to this, but my question is when a player is made
Judge, are the choices listed in regards to themselves or toward other players?

I don't understand what you're asking, but maybe this will help.

We are going to vote for who we want to be the Judge. The Day will end once we've decided on who will be the Judge. CM will post a vote count when he ends the Day, then it will go into Night.

If that doesn't help, please rephrase your question.

Who do you think the main malefactor is this game, Manders?

Do you believe there to be one or perhaps multiple?

As was pointed out by...that one guy, I don't think there is a malefactor.

This game is a lot like Fahrenheit 451 Mafia on MTGS, I think.

There was no scum. There were 3 factions, and they all had to kill the others. I think. Something like that.

This one just doesn't appear to entail killing. Just putting people in jail for periods of time.

I just read it wrong the first time.

Aye. I came to a similar conclusion.

I believe it's this: There are three sets of players. Police, dealers, and the rest. This is basically a game between two cults and who can gather the most people.

By the way, my role is a role that benefits from being recruited by a specific faction, but is harmed if recruited by any other.

Chew on that a bit.

This game is already giving me a migraine.
BUT, this is the time to do something I've always been too scared to do before:

<- unlynchable miller, discuss!

Kaze needs to die.
Imopen needs to die.
rednihilist needs to die or is terrible.
Manders is being weird and i dont approve.
Cp is doing something.

Ill answer whatever dumb questions you have for me later today.

REZOMBAD FOR DISTRICT 6 JUDGE:
DEATH TO THE NONBELIEVERS

This game is already giving me a migraine.
BUT, this is the time to do something I've always been too scared to do before:

<- unlynchable miller, discuss!

..hmmmmm

why do I always miss RVS?

I guess it was random judge stage in this game?

Kaze says he has an ability that benefits from being recruited by one team but is harmed if the other. DO NOT LET KAZE BE JUDGE. That's basically a coin-flip until more setup information and we can't trust it yet.

Manders, Kaze, CP all have a decent amount of posts so far but it's really all just hashing out setup and misunderstandings - other than not trusting the coin-flip nature of Kaze's role, it's all null.

@Kaze - does your PM indicate which faction you benefit from or are harmed by if recruited by them?

Kaze needs to die.
Imopen needs to die.
rednihilist needs to die or is terrible.
Manders is being weird and i dont approve.
Cp is doing something.

Ill answer whatever dumb questions you have for me later today.

REZOMBAD FOR DISTRICT 6 JUDGE:
DEATH TO THE NONBELIEVERS

Come at me bro. How're you going to kill me? Sell me meth or something?

So rcw is in a faction, good to know

Suga is clearly the best choice for judge.

Because judge rezombad never lets evildoers escape justice.



@lmd youre thinking what im thinking.

So rcw is in a faction, good to know

How do you get that?

@Kaze - does your PM indicate which faction you benefit from or are harmed by if recruited by them?

This, you concerned guy.

@Kaze - does your PM indicate which faction you benefit from or are harmed by if recruited by them?

This, you concerned guy.

Ah, so it's a reading comprehension issue, then.

Note I didn't ask him to tell us which faction. I only asked if he knew which faction.

sorry, that was a bit harsh. Wife and I just had an argument so I'm fuming right now.

@Kaze - does your PM indicate which faction you benefit from or are harmed by if recruited by them?

No.

Kaze needs to die.
Imopen needs to die.
rednihilist needs to die or is terrible.
Manders is being weird and i dont approve.
Cp is doing something.

Ill answer whatever dumb questions you have for me later today.

REZOMBAD FOR DISTRICT 6 JUDGE:
DEATH TO THE NONBELIEVERS

Come at me bro. How're you going to kill me? Sell me meth or something?

imopen2 is town today.