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Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 1:04 am
by Pendulum
But seriously Pendulum, you are a very decent poster during low drama times but just when you've build up some cred here you go and blow it by freaking out over the most inane stuff. Like when you tried to get G_R to resign since you thought he hacked user accounts when all he did was change the author's of posts.
Well, if we're going to get serious here, I think you need to realize that I feel I have to
overreact to shit to get any sort of positive change out of you guys.
It's not your job to parent us. You call Galspanic out for that shit all the time but you're sort of doing it in your own way here. We didn't ask for someone to come along and "right our wrongs" or put us on the right course. Believe it or not, most of us are actually fairly smart and have jobs, careers, etc. We don't need you to flip out for our own good.
No, I think you're reading my words wrong. I do respect you guys, and I think you've done a hell of a good job setting up the site and running it, especially with all the troubles you'd experienced along the way; I do appreciate you letting me blather here, and know that I can be a burden. Hence it's with humility I try to help out, but you guys have a very insular community that seems nearly frightened of letting someone from outside that community help them. It's like that "shut up and take my money" meme, I can be
pretty up front but that's because I want to be direct in wanting to craft something here.

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 1:05 am
by Sir Sapphire the 3rd
Image
slow poke is best poke

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 1:05 am
by DroppinSuga
It's the final countdown...

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 1:06 am
by DroppinSuga
Celebrates all by his lonesome

:dance:

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 1:07 am
by DroppinSuga
No super secret forum :(

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 1:07 am
by Sir Sapphire the 3rd

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 1:07 am
by rezombad
I want to buy some DTR shares.

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 1:08 am
by ExarionUniverse1
But seriously Pendulum, you are a very decent poster during low drama times but just when you've build up some cred here you go and blow it by freaking out over the most inane stuff. Like when you tried to get G_R to resign since you thought he hacked user accounts when all he did was
change the author's of posts.
Well, if we're going to get serious here, I think you need to realize that I feel I have to overreact to shit to get any sort of positive change out of you guys.
It's not your job to parent us. You call Galspanic out for that shit all the time but you're sort of doing it in your own way here. We didn't ask for someone to come along and "right our wrongs" or put us on the right course. Believe it or not, most of us are actually fairly smart and have jobs, careers, etc. We don't need you to flip out for our own good.
No, I think you're reading my words wrong. I do respect you guys, and I think you've done a hell of a good job setting up the site and running it, especially with all the troubles you'd experienced along the way; I do appreciate you letting me blather here, and know that I can be a burden. Hence it's with humility I try to help out, but you guys have a very insular
community that seems nearly frightened of letting someone from outside that community help them. It's like that "shut up and take my money" meme, I can be pretty up front but that's because I want to be direct in wanting to craft something here.
Pend is right you know , I think you the only people you let help is me at first and the kind folks at FOS , otherwise , you guys are a very closed to a stranger community.

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 1:09 am
by DroppinSuga
Well it seems to have quieted down. It's time to blather in peace.

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 1:10 am
by Kazekirimaru
Well it seems to have quieted down. It's time to blather in peace.
Eye of the storm, Suga. Brace yourself.

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 1:10 am
by Sir Sapphire the 3rd
Seriously though we really need to stop just hating on stupid shit unless its funny.

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 1:10 am
by rezombad
gay

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 1:11 am
by DroppinSuga
Let's just enjoy some ruffled chips with ketchup.

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 1:12 am
by Second Harkius
Onar, we welcomed you and made you tech and you responded....well...I'm not going to recap the Yomako stuff. So you claiming we're not welcoming to strangers is disingenuous at best.

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 1:12 am
by Sir Sapphire the 3rd
onion flavored chips.

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 1:12 am
by Second Harkius
Also someone just got rebanned :)

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 1:14 am
by DroppinSuga
Poor Hark, I barely knew thee.

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 1:15 am
by Sir Sapphire the 3rd
well that was stupid shit.

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 1:16 am
by DroppinSuga
Oh well.

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 1:16 am
by Pendulum
Also someone just got rebanned :)
Which is fine, but it would be nice to see if MJ is going to acully maek post now, or if he just dropped by for a little screaming in my fucking face out of the blue.

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 1:18 am
by ExarionUniverse1
Onar, we welcomed you and made you tech and you responded....well...I'm not going to recap the Yomako stuff. So you claiming we're not welcoming to strangers is disingenuous at best.

Well I paid for the Yomako stuff . No need to go that route again . But Spam do you see any of the new users post often or join staff lately? And I don't mean the professionals at FOS but members without any allegiances or so forth?



Name me some?


Its always the same people or alternate accounts.


- Onar

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 1:20 am
by DroppinSuga
I came here randomly and joined. My dream is to one day attain staff level. :yes:

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 1:20 am
by Sir Sapphire the 3rd
here someone throws a fucking hissy fit cause they aren't on and someone got unbanned,,, and Im here trying to see how awesome the new Robocop movie is gonna be.

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 1:22 am
by Pendulum
I mean is it just that you guys view me as some super-serious nerd hunched over his computer combing the site for drama? I like to think that I blather rather freely with a jolliness, I made the Free Harkius thread because it seemed lulzy, is that not coming through clearly?

It's actually a big concern of mine, I hear all the time that I sound angry and shit and that's really not the case. I respect the freedom to yell when I want, it's a rare and precious thing for me, but I apologize if that's what you remember about me instead of the constant stream of bright-hearted blathering.

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 1:23 am
by ExarionUniverse1
I came here randomly and joined. My dream is to one day attain staff level. :yes:
last I know your FOS though

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 1:24 am
by DroppinSuga
I came here randomly and joined. My dream is to one day attain staff level. :yes:
last I know your FOS though
This is true.

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 1:24 am
by Second Harkius
I mean is it just that you guys view me as some super-serious nerd hunched over his computer combing the site for drama? I like to think that I blather rather freely with a jolliness, I made the Free Harkius thread because it seemed lulzy, is that not coming through clearly?
This post doesn't sound "lulzy". It was clearly one of your "serious forum reform posts":
You guys shouldn't be looking at this as me wanting to introduce a little chaos or whatever Machiavellian scheme you all think I do; it's actually a positive. Back when he was originally banned, I took it
as just another piece of instability in what I had come to think of as the most unstable place I was willing to go on the 'net; that may be just because I myself was pretty fuckin' unstable back then, or maybe that I didn't get the culture, or the very distinct possibility that you were, in fact, the most unstable place around... I think perhaps the latter has a smidgeon of truth to it.

But since then, what's surprised me in the growth of the site is an atmosphere of quick and efficient change; quite the change from MTGS where they let problems fester far too long and resort to masks and bannings to hide their dirty laundry instead of just, you know, doing their laundry. I like to call it an atmosphere of "self-help"; I just say what's on my mind, and the community, especially Scumbag, comes up with a solution in short order. And these solutions are often simple, elegant, and just what is needed. It's a way of life too personable for MTGS to understand, and to my mind it is no big
realization to see how Harkius has felt muzzled there despite them keeping him around. In him, I see a caged bird, and in our maturity here, so different from the groupthink of MTGS, I would like to at least give him the chance to sing.

So yeah, there probably will be drama bombs, there probably will be internet fights (hell, even if he doesn't maek post there probably will be), but I at least have confidence that when they come we have the skills and insight to handle them. We don't need to fear drama here.

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 1:25 am
by Pendulum
I mean look at the petition; I agreed with a structured response to a growing concern, so I jumped right on board; my response was to give you guys tips on how to get others to sign and help you get over any insecurities you might have had about talking people into agreeing with your cause. Does that seem particularly angry?

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 1:25 am
by ExarionUniverse1
I mean is it just that you guys view me as some super-serious nerd hunched over his computer combing the site for drama? I like to think that I blather rather freely with a jolliness, I made the Free Harkius thread because it seemed lulzy, is that not coming through clearly?

It's actually a big concern of mine, I hear all the time that I sound angry and shit and that's really not the case. I respect the freedom to yell when I want, it's a rare and precious thing for me, but I apologize if that's what you remember about me instead of the constant stream of bright-hearted blathering.
Pend , your better off in the standings then , Because in DTR's view I am a malicous idiot commie who supposedly makes drama , and whose opinion is
sneered upon at best

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 1:26 am
by Pendulum
I mean is it just that you guys view me as some super-serious nerd hunched over his computer combing the site for drama? I like to think that I blather rather freely with a jolliness, I made the Free Harkius thread because it seemed lulzy, is that not coming through clearly?
This post doesn't sound "lulzy". It was clearly one of your "serious forum reform posts":
You guys shouldn't be looking at this as me
wanting to introduce a little chaos or whatever Machiavellian scheme you all think I do; it's actually a positive. Back when he was originally banned, I took it as just another piece of instability in what I had come to think of as the most unstable place I was willing to go on the 'net; that may be just because I myself was pretty fuckin' unstable back then, or maybe that I didn't get the culture, or the very distinct possibility that you were, in fact, the most unstable place around... I think perhaps the latter has a smidgeon of truth to it.

But since then, what's surprised me in the growth of the site is an atmosphere of quick and efficient change; quite the change from MTGS where they let problems fester far too long and resort to masks and bannings to hide their dirty laundry instead of just, you know, doing their laundry. I like to call it an atmosphere of "self-help"; I just say what's on my mind, and the community, especially Scumbag, comes up with a solution in short order.
And these solutions are often simple, elegant, and just what is needed. It's a way of life too personable for MTGS to understand, and to my mind it is no big realization to see how Harkius has felt muzzled there despite them keeping him around. In him, I see a caged bird, and in our maturity here, so different from the groupthink of MTGS, I would like to at least give him the chance to sing.

So yeah, there probably will be drama bombs, there probably will be internet fights (hell, even if he doesn't maek post there probably will be), but I at least have confidence that when they come we have the skills and insight to handle them. We don't need to fear drama here.
What I'm hearing you saying here is that you don't want me to help you. That makes me feel sad, as I like helping out, providing my voice, and I thought I'd earned your respect enough to know that. :(

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 1:27 am
by DroppinSuga
I just try to get a long with everyone. Except baguy, I still wanna fight him.

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 1:29 am
by Sir Sapphire the 3rd
I just try to get a long with everyone. Except baguy, I still wanna fight him.
He'll beat the shit out of you.

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 1:31 am
by Second Harkius
I mean look at the petition; I agreed with a structured response to a growing concern, so I jumped right on board; my response was to give you guys tips on how to get others to sign and help you get over any insecurities you might have had about talking people into agreeing with your cause. Does that seem particularly angry?
Your response to the petition wasn't angry but that's not the topic in question. Your 'Free Harku' thread was clearly intended to drum up support for something only you and Madding (half-heartedly) wanted.


Anyway....

Pendulum, just lighten up. Spam about Shakespeare or karaoke or give casual life advice to our more wayward members in this thread but stop trying to shape this site in your own image. I'd rather have a
bunch of people spamming as equals than argue with someone who tries to assume the "parental figure" role. But overall we, and I think I speak for most of us except Kaitscralt who says No whenever someone says Yes, think you are beneficial to this forum. Your 90% spam content is great and keeps this thread lively. The 10% drama / forum guidance side just makes us facepalm. Basically, play to your strengths, man!

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 1:31 am
by ExarionUniverse1
I just try to get a long with everyone. Except baguy, I still wanna fight him.
and I respect you for this , I mean you may disagree with my views but aleast you hear them out. Some of your clan mates ( how do I put this nicely) opt to disagree and not even hear my views.

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 1:32 am
by Corruption Watch
you guys view me as some super-serious nerd hunched over his computer combing the site for drama
Hey, that's me!

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 1:32 am
by DroppinSuga
Spam gets +1 to Diplomacy

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 1:33 am
by Second Harkius
Spam gets +1 to Diplomacy
I'm an Ambassador of Goodwill.

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 1:33 am
by Second Harkius
Spam gets +1 to Diplomacy
I'm an Ambassador of Goodwill.
Which is why, if anyone checked to look, I didn't reban anyone.

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 1:34 am
by Second Harkius
Also someone just got rebanned :)
^ This was a reference to Naka getting rebanned on Sally.

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 1:34 am
by ExarionUniverse1
Spam gets +1 to Diplomacy
I'm an Ambassador of Goodwill.
Which is why, if anyone checked to look, I didn't reban anyone.
So you misled to gauge opinions?