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Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 3:06 pm
by Thrillho
What is The Called?
it's basically the original clan of mtgs. it was a holdover from mtgnews and housed such esteemed members as rancored_elf, rianalnn, and this site's own mogadishu jones.

Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 3:54 pm
by Neo Metal Sonic
@Thrillho: Thanks for the explanation!

Changing the subject:

http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=511198

REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY?

Goddammit.

Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 4:11 pm
by ( G_R )
Aww shit, I posted there. Thanks a lot Sonic. :no:

Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 4:25 pm
by Kaitscralt
Me too.

Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 4:43 pm
by Tom Servo
Galspanic: masterraids flamed ouy via PM and will be back in 3 weeks.
Apparently "fuck off" is not an acceptable response to moderation.

Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 4:44 pm
by Tom Servo
Or so I hear

Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 5:19 pm
by iamabadman
Dumb ass

Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 5:47 pm
by Sir Sapphire the 3rd
....And some of us actually like modding on that site... The fuck

Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 6:22 pm
by Kaitscralt
Lol, I got that thread closed. I'm such a boner killer.

Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 6:28 pm
by Thrillho
apparently gaze of granite is a $7 card and skylasher is worth its presale price based on the concrete metric of "what r_e feels like pricing cards at"

Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 6:28 pm
by Thrillho
i have learned these two things in my brief return to posting in mtgs' market street cafe.

Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 6:29 pm
by Thrillho
also everyone who was good at evaluating card prices has either become completely mentally invalid or left in my absence.

Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 6:31 pm
by Kaitscralt
I opened a foil gaze in prize pack so let r_e live the dream

Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 6:32 pm
by Thrillho
he will buy it for a great price.

Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 6:35 pm
by Sir Sapphire the 3rd
All card prices are bad cause I can light them with a bic lighter

Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 6:37 pm
by Thrillho
with no one to challenge them on their batshit inanity, the predators have become the people suggesting you buy up all the bloodbarons of vizkopa.

Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 6:38 pm
by Kaitscralt
Lucky me its the only mythic I can open in the set

Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 6:39 pm
by Thrillho
i still need one to have a set but its price does not reflect what the card actually is so i can't buy it for the time being.

Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 6:46 pm
by Kaitscralt
The amount of Voices I have (0) vs the amount of packs I've opened is nearing statistic impossibility

Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 6:50 pm
by Col. Khaddafi
I have a foil skylasher, should I send it to r_e?

Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 7:58 pm
by Pendulum
The amount of Voices I have (0) vs the amount of packs I've opened is nearing statistic impossibility
Lol I packed my playset. It seems our two anomalies cancel out one another except I get to the be the douche making the brag post.

Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 7:58 pm
by Blackhound
@Thrillho: Thanks for the explanation!

Changing the subject:

http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=511198

REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? REALLY?

Goddammit.
They have deleted it.

Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 8:01 pm
by Pendulum
It has been struck from the internet!

Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 8:05 pm
by Pendulum
You know, like those Ytre posts.

Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 8:11 pm
by Sir Sapphire the 3rd
Never EVER leaves the internets

Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 8:29 pm
by Pendulum
Never EVER leaves the internets
It is a rather unforgiving place, isn't it?

Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 9:30 pm
by Thrillho
it's a cover up

Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 9:30 pm
by Thrillho
trust me i'm in the illuminati.

Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 9:31 pm
by Tom Servo
Illuminatus!

Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 11:21 pm
by Yannaria
you called?

Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 11:36 pm
by iamabadman
the butt razor signal was not light

Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 11:42 pm
by Second Harkius
Image

Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 11:57 pm
by Col. Khaddafi
They been dead... they just had special rules cause they are called. To me they technically died long ago but the final nail was Ria going apeshit.
You know, one day someone back there -someone who wasn't involved waist deep in all the shit that went through- someone will ponder to himself if all this was worth it:

Lying, antagonizing and harassing one of the (now former) communities of MTGS, cleaning house of half the members of a clan because they happened to make part of the aforementioned group of people, explicitly showing the door to another clan (as Sene explicitly posted) because they did not conform to the "ideals" of MTGS, at the same time expelling very competent deckbuilders (this site's gain, but that is beyond the
point), and stubbornly keeping staff who are patently unfit for the job because they have to show the general populace that the staff doesn't yield to peer pressure (it doesn't matter that the demands were legitimate).

This fabled day someone will look at what their site turned into, to all the bad blood these illegitimate actions fostered, inside and outside mtgs, and this fabled person will wonder if the site really reaped that much rewards from the considerable efforts that the staff put into antagonizing people who were simply minding their own business. I really hope someone will make a balance on all that was taken, and the few that was given(?).

I say someone, one day, because it will have too be a person with their head properly placed over their shoulders, and we know that everyone who was involved in these whole ordeals still acts like they are defending a crumbling castle from neverending raids by hordes of barbarians. all the cards, suspensions and bannings are more than evidence that
there still isn't a single one of them capable of not being blinded by anger and prejudice. And it's been almost a year.

Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 12:23 am
by Second Harkius
They been dead... they just had special rules cause they are called. To me they technically died long ago but the final nail was Ria going apeshit.
You know, one day someone back there -someone who wasn't involved waist deep in all the shit that went through- someone will ponder to himself if all this was worth it:

Lying, antagonizing and harassing one of the (now former) communities of MTGS, cleaning house of half the members of a clan because they happened to make part of the aforementioned group of people, explicitly showing the door to another clan (as Sene explicitly
posted) because they did not conform to the "ideals" of MTGS, at the same time expelling very competent deckbuilders (this site's gain, but that is beyond the point), and stubbornly keeping staff who are patently unfit for the job because they have to show the general populace that the staff doesn't yield to peer pressure (it doesn't matter that the demands were legitimate).

This fabled day someone will look at what their site turned into, to all the bad blood these illegitimate actions fostered, inside and outside mtgs, and this fabled person will wonder if the site really reaped that much rewards from the considerable efforts that the staff put into antagonizing people who were simply minding their own business. I really hope someone will make a balance on all that was taken, and the few that was given(?).

I say someone, one day, because it will have too be a person with their head properly placed in their shoulders, and we know that everyone who was involved in these whole ordeals still
act like they are defending a crumbling castle from neverending raids by hordes of barbarians. all the cards, suspensions and bannings are more than evidence that there still isn't a single one of them capable of not being blinded by anger and prejudice. And it's been almost a year.

I would ask that person to look back at The Called thread from the summer of 2012. Myself, JJ, and others tried to get everyone to reconcile but Rianalnn, an administrator who thrived by elevating cronies and harassing people over PM, refused to listen to any arguments from the other side. Thus, kpaca was summarily voted out, I left in disgust, soon followed by jj, teefo, etc. Despite the gutter members trying to save The Called (and the gutter itself), the mods in power, whether through fear, cowardice, or apathy, chose to ignore “real” negotiations by setting up a kangaroo discussion thread about how to save the gutter, even though they knew full well that their new corporate masters wanted the gutter
gone. Through their lies and deceit they wasted the time and energy of both groups.

What has the site gained? Even Curse seems to barely acknowledge their new purchase (curse.com doesn’t even list MTGS as one of their top sites!) The public image of the site continues to decline because the mods put policy over people. You even have mods who spend their time doing nothing but writing internet policy for a website devoted to a teenage card game. These are not crusaders for social justice; in fact their collective cowardice during the summer 2012 Called / Gutter debacle shows that their principles come and go whenever their cognitive distress needs relief.

They are basically the stereotypical high school ‘hall monitor’ who takes their job far too seriously. It’s a shame since I spent hours talking to many of them in GRRRR, and I truly hoped they would go to bat for their friends. Sadly this was not the case. Now they seem to fear N_S / other gimmickers because whenever a ‘Korolev’ returns to make one or
two joke posts the mods are instantly reminded of their failures.

They seek to promote community but they can’t reconcile their aims with the fact that they’ve alienated at least two major communities from their site. They finally got to be in the cool kids club. It only took shutting down every other school organization to do it. :toot:

Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 12:47 am
by Sir Sapphire the 3rd
They been dead... they just had special rules cause they are called. To me they technically died long ago but the final nail was Ria going apeshit.
You know, one day someone back there -someone who wasn't involved waist deep in all the shit that went through- someone will ponder to himself if all this was worth it:

Lying, antagonizing and harassing one of the (now former) communities of MTGS, cleaning house of
half the members of a clan because they happened to make part of the aforementioned group of people, explicitly showing the door to another clan (as Sene explicitly posted) because they did not conform to the "ideals" of MTGS, at the same time expelling very competent deckbuilders (this site's gain, but that is beyond the point), and stubbornly keeping staff who are patently unfit for the job because they have to show the general populace that the staff doesn't yield to peer pressure (it doesn't matter that the demands were legitimate).

This fabled day someone will look at what their site turned into, to all the bad blood these illegitimate actions fostered, inside and outside mtgs, and this fabled person will wonder if the site really reaped that much rewards from the considerable efforts that the staff put into antagonizing people who were simply minding their own business. I really hope someone will make a balance on all that was taken, and the few that was given(?).

I say someone, one
day, because it will have too be a person with their head properly placed in their shoulders, and we know that everyone who was involved in these whole ordeals still act like they are defending a crumbling castle from neverending raids by hordes of barbarians. all the cards, suspensions and bannings are more than evidence that there still isn't a single one of them capable of not being blinded by anger and prejudice. And it's been almost a year.

I would ask that person to look back at The Called thread from the summer of 2012. Myself, JJ, and others tried to get everyone to reconcile but Rianalnn, an administrator who thrived by elevating cronies and harassing people over PM, refused to listen to any arguments from the other side. Thus, kpaca was summarily voted out, I left in disgust, soon followed by jj, teefo, etc. Despite the gutter members trying to save The Called (and the gutter itself), the mods in power, whether through fear, cowardice, or apathy, chose to ignore “real”
negotiations by setting up a kangaroo discussion thread about how to save the gutter, even though they knew full well that their new corporate masters wanted the gutter gone. Through their lies and deceit they wasted the time and energy of both groups.

What has the site gained? Even Curse seems to barely acknowledge their new purchase (curse.com doesn’t even list MTGS as one of their top sites!) The public image of the site continues to decline because the mods put policy over people. You even have mods who spend their time doing nothing but writing internet policy for a website devoted to a teenage card game. These are not crusaders for social justice; in fact their collective cowardice during the summer 2012 Called / Gutter debacle shows that their principles come and go whenever their cognitive distress needs relief.

They are basically the stereotypical high school ‘hall monitor’ who takes their job far too seriously. It’s a shame since I spent hours talking to many of them in GRRRR, and I truly
hoped they would go to bat for their friends. Sadly this was not the case. Now they seem to fear N_S / other gimmickers because whenever a ‘Korolev’ returns to make one or two joke posts the mods are instantly reminded of their failures.

They seek to promote community but they can’t reconcile their aims with the fact that they’ve alienated at least two major communities from their site. They finally got to be in the cool kids club. It only took shutting down every other school organization to do it. :toot:
This plus the fact of even before that certain mods basicly have a power struggle to a point where they ousted some on their personal lives and choices. All for the sake of power on a magical card game site.

Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 12:50 am
by Sir Sapphire the 3rd
But maybe just maybe the belief I feel a mod should be someone that doesn't direct a conversation but looks to keep it stable, to stop spam and phishing accounts before they can get going, and general in it for the love of the site they are on is the correct frame of mind... or I can be full of it.

Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 2:19 am
by Manders
So many words, but well said, nonetheless.

Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 2:20 am
by Manders
Hey, Clicky, I want you to make me a Poison Ivy sig pic, k?

K!

Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 3:23 am
by Tom Servo
Words

Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 5:30 am
by Pendulum
They been dead... they just had special rules cause they are called. To me they technically died long ago but the final nail was Ria going apeshit.
You know, one day someone back there -someone who wasn't involved waist deep in all the shit that went through- someone will ponder to himself if all this was worth it:

Lying, antagonizing and harassing one of the (now former) communities of MTGS, cleaning house of half the members of a clan because they happened to make part of the aforementioned group of people, explicitly showing the door to another clan (as Sene explicitly
posted) because they did not conform to the "ideals" of MTGS, at the same time expelling very competent deckbuilders (this site's gain, but that is beyond the point), and stubbornly keeping staff who are patently unfit for the job because they have to show the general populace that the staff doesn't yield to peer pressure (it doesn't matter that the demands were legitimate).

This fabled day someone will look at what their site turned into, to all the bad blood these illegitimate actions fostered, inside and outside mtgs, and this fabled person will wonder if the site really reaped that much rewards from the considerable efforts that the staff put into antagonizing people who were simply minding their own business. I really hope someone will make a balance on all that was taken, and the few that was given(?).

I say someone, one day, because it will have too be a person with their head properly placed over their shoulders, and we know that everyone who was involved in these whole ordeals
still acts like they are defending a crumbling castle from neverending raids by hordes of barbarians. all the cards, suspensions and bannings are more than evidence that there still isn't a single one of them capable of not being blinded by anger and prejudice. And it's been almost a year.
I do always find it funny when some self-proclaimed holistic will claim that through suffering they grow stronger, or that while they may have changed their core personality remains the same (which, btw, is classic AA logic used to excuse their continued dependence); this, while technically correct, is like a body-builder who works one muscle group to the exclusion of all others... thanks to the law of diminishing returns, they work very hard for less benefit and the end result usually does a better job of promoting their flaws than their newfound strengths. True benefit comes through balance, and while a rose growing through concrete or a tree grafted onto the side of of a barren cliff may be a
poignant, even noble image, it pales in comparison to the richness of a plant seeded in good earth.
The farmer who doesn't temper their soil is a fool, the one who plants only one type doubly so.