[Fedoras of Salvation] - White Knights ITT

[PirateKingAtomsk]

Holy crap is that khamal in the sally thread actually agruing in favor of the stuff you guys are saying i'm not sure if he1s seen the light ( read fire) or if hes just being a sheep and agreeing, regardless I loved it when he said "you can lead a fool to wisdom, but you can't make him think."

[Helios]

In other news, Apple released their latest OS update for free. Mad props.

[Khaospawn]

I just caught up on RDW Thread on Sally.

I didn't think someone could be that stupid. Alas, I was wrong.

[Jack]

Originally posted by Aes Sedai on MTGS

I never mentioned anything about FNM or local meta. I play in large tournaments with 70+ people with several PT regulars.

Why are you people acting like this deck is the best? It's not even close to being #1. There are obviously problems with it. One of them is Firedrinker Satyr.

I'm not arguing based on opinion. I'm arguing based on facts, which is why you guys are getting so upset because you can't refute facts. The fact is, for Firedrinker Satyr to be worth running, he has to get in there 3 times unblocked. Otherwise you are losing more life playing him than you are inflicting with him. That's no bueno.

Against red aggro, red mid-range, red/green, black devotion, and green devotion, he
doesn't get in there 3 times unblocked. Therefore, he's not very good in any of those matchups.

Considering that those decks make up a vast majority of any standard meta, anywhere, that means Firedrinker Satyr isn't good anywhere.

He's good against certain matchups, such as control, but that is what the definition of a sideboard card is. Cards that are good against certain matchups that you bring in to face strictly them.

Firedrinker is a sideboard card. This isn't my opinion.

So I honestly don't think this person knows what the definitions of "fact" and "opinion" are.

Yup. When read without making assumptions to compensate for his inability to correctly and effectively use words, "Firedrinker is a sideboard card. This isn't my opinion" means that the purpose of his entire post was to defend a viewpoint and then say he did not agree with the words he had just written.
A fact is something that
is true.
An opinion is a personal belief or view.
Aes Sedai's post is composed of lies. They are not opinions and would even be considered a facts if they weren't so damn wrong.

[Khaospawn]

Maybe Aes Sedai really is a woman. Cuz the bitch can't logically form an argument and can only run in circles that lead to more nonsense.

[Khaospawn]

That post wasn't meant to insult our one (?) female in the Clan, however.

[Self Medicated]

I forgot to thank Z for the backup. Couldn't handle the stupid. Needed to leave that thread.

[redthirst]

That post wasn't meant to insult our one (?) female in the Clan, however.

It's fine. Keep saying stuff like that and we won't have a female to insult.

The whole situation will work itself out.



...but seriously, Nuwen knows bitches be crazy.

[rcwraspy]

I don't want to speak for her, but from what I've observed I think Nuwen knows that everybody can be crazy, but more importantly that everybody needs an outlet and a place to vent, and this is one of those places for many of us.

That said, I know I'm responding seriously to something made in jest, so I'll stop.

[windstrider]

Originally posted by Aes Sedai on MTGS

I never mentioned anything about FNM or local meta. I play in large tournaments with 70+ people with several PT regulars.

Why are you people acting like this deck is the best? It's not even close to being #1. There are obviously problems with it. One of them is Firedrinker Satyr.

I'm not arguing based on opinion. I'm arguing based on facts, which is why you guys are getting so upset because you can't refute facts. The fact is, for Firedrinker Satyr to be worth running, he has to get in there 3 times unblocked. Otherwise you are losing more
life playing him than you are inflicting with him. That's no bueno.

Against red aggro, red mid-range, red/green, black devotion, and green devotion, he doesn't get in there 3 times unblocked. Therefore, he's not very good in any of those matchups.

Considering that those decks make up a vast majority of any standard meta, anywhere, that means Firedrinker Satyr isn't good anywhere.

He's good against certain matchups, such as control, but that is what the definition of a sideboard card is. Cards that are good against certain matchups that you bring in to face strictly them.

Firedrinker is a sideboard card. This isn't my opinion.

So I honestly don't think this person knows what the definitions of "fact" and "opinion" are.

Yup. When read without making assumptions to compensate for his inability to correctly and effectively use words, "Firedrinker is a sideboard card. This isn't my opinion"
means that the purpose of his entire post was to defend a viewpoint and then say he did not agree with the words he had just written.
A fact is something that is true.
An opinion is a personal belief or view.
Aes Sedai's post is composed of lies. They are not opinions and would even be considered a facts if they weren't so damn wrong.

This post by Aes Sedai infuriated me more than anything else I've read on Sally because it was so poorly argued and based on nonsense. She could have just stated, "I don't like to run Firedrinker because I hate playing around its drawback." And that would have been ok. Then she had to try to argue that her reasoning was correct in the most puerile way imaginable.

[Self Medicated]

I think this is appropriate, given recent events.

http://youtu.be/SQVpOGJ_51w

[DarthStabber]

I love her sense of entitlement. "You've only been here 6 monthes, you don't get to call bullshit on me". Yeah right bitch, I don't care if signed up today, bullshit is bullshit, and you should be embarrassed that someone you think is so new can see through your bullshit. Let her run bad cards, I'll be happy when I get paired against the control deck that stomped her the previous round.

[Helios]

That post wasn't meant to insult our one (?) female in the Clan, however.

It's fine. Keep saying stuff like that and we won't have a female to insult.

^ That.

[Khaospawn]

That post wasn't meant to insult our one (?) female in the Clan, however.

It's fine. Keep saying stuff like that and we won't have a female to insult.

^ That.

Yeah, but....the problem will fix itself eventually.

I'm an asshole. And I'm okay with this.

[hamfactorial]

Anal(ysis of cards) or GTFO

[Khaospawn]

Anal(ysis of cards) or GTFO

true story.

[DarthStabber]

Anal(ysis of cards) or GTFO

Triton tactics is quietly the best combat trick in standard, and we will see it hit constructed. If you can't hide a 1 mana blow out instant, you don't deserve to suffle up.

[LP, of the Fires]

It's in the sideboard of the devotion blue deck in my gauntlet.

It is the most brutal of 1-ofs.

[NerdBoyWonder]

Welp the things that happen while you sleep and work. Looks like scrubs gonna scrub at Sally.

[hamfactorial]

Oh man, Triton Tactics. In my last streamed daily, the MoW player attacked into marginal board position and I asked Alex "are there any 1 CMC blue combat tricks in Standard?" He replied "Triton Tactics?" But neither of us actually bothered to look it up, thinking that it cost 2. Blowout!

[windstrider]

I love her sense of entitlement. "You've only been here 6 monthes, you don't get to call bullshit on me". Yeah right bitch, I don't care if signed up today, bullshit is bullshit, and you should be embarrassed that someone you think is so new can see through your bullshit. Let her run bad cards, I'll be happy when I get paired against the control deck that stomped her the previous round.

It's a type of ad hominem attack. She can't refute your point, so she attacks your (seeming) inexperience. Her arguments were full of fallacies. I thought it was funny when she tried to claim membership in a philosophical society as proof that she could argue effectively.

[hamfactorial]

Ah, the well-known Appeal to Authority logical phallusy.

[Helios]

full of fallacies.

Tee hee

[Kazekirimaru]

There's an direct proportion happening in that Sally thread: The derp increases from Sedai; z's smackdowns get more brutal.

Link? I'm behind on the action.

[redthirst]

Starts here:

http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthre ... st10979492

Settle in. Believe it or not, it just gets dumber from there.

[Kazekirimaru]

Merci beaucoup

[DarthStabber]

It's a type of ad hominem attack. She can't refute your point, so she attacks your (seeming) inexperience. Her arguments were full of fallacies. I thought it was funny when she tried to claim membership in a philosophical society as proof that she could argue effectively.

I found that hilarious. I was a member of the philosophy forum at UMSL and that was in no way a good preparation for any kind of debate, but it was excellent preparation for liver failure.

[Kazekirimaru]

Stop, you're going too fast. Draw me a picture to illustrate your premise.

The lol has occurred.

[Kazekirimaru]

I have to laugh to stifle the sobbing.

[Helios]

^So much truth. That's a half hour of my life I will never get back. What the actual fuck.

[Kazekirimaru]

When Kamahl starts calling your analysis daft, you know you've fucked up somewhere down the road of life.

[Kazekirimaru]

^So much truth. That's a half hour of my life I will never get back. What the actual fuck.

Au contraire. I'm enjoying every second of this delightful display of stupidity.

[Helios]

I'm surprised no one called out the fact that there were very few female PT players at the time said individual claims to have played on the PT, pretty sure those records are on DCI somewhere. You could probably count them on one hand.

When Kamahl starts calling your analysis daft, you know you've fucked up somewhere down the road of life.

He made reasonable points. My brain felt molested.

[Kazekirimaru]

This is your brain on Kamahl.

[Kazekirimaru]

10/10 would read again.

[zemanjaski]

(S)he isn't a PT player, Sene looked into it.

[Kazekirimaru]

Sene did detective work?

[redthirst]

(S)he isn't a PT player, Sene looked into it.

Lol.

Not that anyone was fooled but still, it's good to know for sure.

[Helios]

There were words, but red's sig is flashing so nicely at the top of the page....

[DarthStabber]

I'd be not the least surprised to find out (s)he's never won so much as a draft pod. As soon as I called bullshit on her she goes berserk, classic, and totally worth the infraction.