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Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 5:05 am
by windstrider
Are the shocks strikes and jets that good against Midrange?
The way I see it, Devotion Red is a lot better against a Midrange/Aggro meta. Without board wipes, we can build a huge board and kill with FAnatic. Also has good cards against aggro.
The problem was the deck was a little slower and reliant on board state but without blue, it feels even better.
PyroRed can run smaller creatures like Cackler, Phoenix, and
especially Zealot into much bigger stuff and kill them while creating tokens. Eventually, you get Chandra or a Hammer online and take over. Her +1 really adds up since it does a lot by pinging them, faltering their best blocker, and bringing Phoenixes back to your hand. Phoenix feels so much more powerful than a 2/2, especially since most decks just can't keep it dead.
Throwing Reckoner into the sideboard will add even more value to the deck.
I had doubts about the deck before I ran it, but it just does so many things right.
Devotion Red runs Cackler, Pheonix, and Zealot as well... and also Hammer and Chandra
But no Young Pyromancer.
Though I'm wondering if there's a way to fit Fanatic into the deck in some way. Even as just a 2-of it would help deal damage in stalled board states.
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 5:26 am
by zemanjaski
Young P-money is hard to quit. She even brings all her friends to party if you treat her right.
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 5:27 am
by Helios
She's also a dude. But whatevs.
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 5:36 am
by Kazekirimaru
It's hard to tell with the lights off.
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 5:40 am
by windstrider
It's hard to tell with the lights off.
Fixed that for ya.

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 5:48 am
by zemanjaski
Really? I was pretty sure they said it was a girl.
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 5:49 am
by zemanjaski
Whatever, I'm at least a little bit gay cf. my stream with alex
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 5:53 am
by Khaospawn
Really? I was pretty sure they said it was a girl.
Yeah, I don't see any tits or hips, man.
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 6:02 am
by zemanjaski
I don't even look at the cards honestly.
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 6:06 am
by Helios
Dude looks like a lady.
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 6:08 am
by zemanjaski
I'm like a Jedi, I don't need to see my opponent to strike them down.
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 6:30 am
by Christen
Really? I was pretty sure they said it was a girl.
Yeah, I don't see any tits or hips, man.
Flat would have been ok, but the hips don't lie, so yeah.
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 6:34 am
by zemanjaski
I feel Kamahl levels of stupid.
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 6:40 am
by Helios
Blasphemy. That would probably make your brain implode.
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 6:41 am
by photodyer
I just posted KS States Top 8 over in the Standard forum
here. An Esper Control pilot who I've never seen around before took 1st, beating BWR Control and Domri Naya in the Top 8. Mono Red decks took 4th and 6th; the 4th place deck was a weird homebrew by someone known for playing some different cards in his lists (both windstrider and I have run awry of some of his unexpected cards in the past that just borked Dos Rakis). The 6th Place list is more "typical", but they're both Devotion lists.
[deck=Jordan Kruger – KS State 4th]
Creatures
4 Rakdos Cackler
4 Ash Zealot
4 Burning-Tree Emissary
3 Chandra's Phoenix
4 Boros Reckoner
4 Fanatic of Mogis
3 Purphoros, God of the Forge
Artifacts
2 Hammer of Purphoros
Other Spells
4 Magma Jet
2 Shock
2 Madcap Skills
2 Lightning Strike
nLand
4 Mutavault
18 Mountain
Sideboard:
3 Skullcrack
3 Mizzium Mortars
3 Anger of the Gods
3 Mindsparker
3 Burning Earth
[/deck]
[deck=Jason O'Rourke – KS State 6th]
Creatures
3 Burning-Tree Emissary
4 Fanatic of Mogis
4 Firedrinker Satyr
4 Boros Reckoner
4 Rakdos Cackler
4 Rakdos Shred-Freak
4 Chandra's Phoenix
4 Ash Zealot
Other Spells
4 Magma Jet
4 Lightning Strike
1 Shock
Land
21 Mountain
Sideboard:
3 Skullcrack
4 Mizzium Mortars
2 Shock
3 Burning Earth
2 Hammer of Purphoros
1 Purphoros, God of the Forge
[/deck]
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 6:56 am
by DarthStabber
Flat would have been ok, but the hips don't lie, so yeah.
Yeah they do. I have "child bearing" hips (and an ass that won't quit) and i'm a dude. My ass and hips are big to the point where I have to where I have to wear women's jeans because my other options are rip the ass out of properly fitting men's jeans or wear loose men's jeans. As a proper faggot I can't, in good conscience, wear loose jeans. As a magic player I don't have the money to constantly buy new jeans, this, means that all my jeans are women's cut. Since my hair is long people call me ma'am all the time, until they see the goatee, provided they only see me from behind. Clean shaven, a stuffed bra, and with a little makeup I can pass for tall (6'1")
woman with little extra effort. Believe me, I have done it.
TL;DR: the hips can lie.
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 7:16 am
by photodyer
Regrettably there are no full-art images of YPyro up on the open Web...only bad enlarged scans of the card.
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 7:31 am
by Christen
Flat would have been ok, but the hips don't lie, so yeah.
Yeah they do. I have "child bearing" hips (and an ass that won't quit) and i'm a dude. My ass and hips are big to the point where I have to where I have to wear women's jeans because my other options are rip the ass out of properly fitting men's jeans or wear loose men's jeans. As a proper faggot I can't, in good conscience, wear loose jeans. As a magic player I don't have the money to constantly buy new jeans, this, means that all my jeans are women's cut. Since my hair is long people call me ma'am all the
time, until they see the goatee, provided they only see me from behind. Clean shaven, a stuffed bra, and with a little makeup I can pass for tall (6'1") woman with little extra effort. Believe me, I have done it.
TL;DR: the hips can lie.
Well...

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 7:35 am
by photodyer
Okay, my spelling OCD drove me to track down the word sub function that Alex used to mess with supr gaye. There is no "US" in Porphoros, and now it should autofix when it's mistyped as a spongy-sounding adjective form.
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 7:46 am
by zemanjaski
So I can't spell or assign gender...lucky im real good at turning cards sideways.
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 7:55 am
by zemanjaski
And winning red mirrors, 4-0 this weekend baby.
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 8:04 am
by photodyer
So I can't spell or assign gender...lucky im real good at turning cards sideways.
James, you are FAR from alone with regards to misnaming the red god...the names in this set follow no rhyme or reason unless you are familiar with Latin structure rules (ack!). And the only people working outside of academia who know a damn thing about Latin anymore are
the parents of children who compete in spelling bees for multiple years!
As far as the gender thing...well...you being with Pip rather than Alex seems to suggest you have that sorted.

I was under the impression that YP would be a teen Chandra until I really looked at
the card and saw a boy that seemed a cross between Shaggy and Velma of the Scoobies.
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 8:06 am
by Alex
Went to a win-a-box today and ended up splitting for the box with a friend of mine. We were both on Izzet Blitz and didn't really need to play out the mirror, (it's a coin flip matchup) so we went halfsies on the box and decided to do a $13 draft at my house and split the cash. Winner got free pizza, everyone else had to chip in.
tl;dr we are kinda stoned right now and eating pizza. i did not win the draft. also glad we pitched the box cause there were no real good cards in it.
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 9:23 am
by LP, of the Fires
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 9:32 am
by Yarpus
@dpaine88
Sorry, I misunderstood ya.
Whole deal costed me around 100-120$ to have the afromentioned deck and some additional red commons and uncommons.
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 9:43 am
by LP, of the Fires
For anyone on the Devotion red bandwagon, I posted my thoughts and lists in the standard thread.
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 11:27 am
by dpaine88
@dpaine88
Sorry, I misunderstood ya.
Whole deal costed me around 100-120$ to have the afromentioned deck and some additional red commons and uncommons.
Thanks bro, might end up gettin on MODO myself! $100 isnt that bad
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 2:53 pm
by JWarson88
Redbros,
Murphy's Law has had a field day with me this past weekend. It was Homecoming weekend at my college so I took the opportunity to sign up for catering events on campus to put money away for Thanksgiving break along with my regular work hours as a line cook at the local pub in town. The week went as follows:
Thursday
Friday
Saturday
nLong story short, with the sous chef fired, there is no way I'm going to states, which sucks because i really wanted to jam PyroRed. No one really respects Red at the LGS that is hosting the tournament. It would have been

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 3:06 pm
by windstrider
Okay, my spelling OCD drove me to track down the word sub function that Alex used to mess with supr gaye. There is no "US" in Porphoros, and now it should autofix when it's mistyped as a spongy-sounding adjective form.
There is, however, a u in Purphoros.

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 4:33 pm
by Khaospawn
Been working since 4pm yesterday and I still have a few hours to go. I'm ready to drop dead.
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 4:42 pm
by Haiiro Sedai
Alrighty. I haven't been able to post much due to this being the busy season at me work place (Days off mean I just work 4 hours that day

) but instead of trolling you fine people I've been sneaking in 2 man and 8 man queues on modo!
I'm 16-1 in matches.
Z, your deck is sick. Only diff is I'm boarding Burning Earth still as I don't have mortars and I love the card, but that may be because of my $t4x love.
I would love to bring in huge insight, but alas, off to work.
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 4:46 pm
by Lightning_Dolt
Went to a win-a-box today and ended up splitting for the box with a friend of mine. We were both on Izzet Blitz and didn't really need to play out the mirror, (it's a coin flip matchup) so we went halfsies on the box and decided to do a $13 draft at my house and split the cash. Winner got free pizza, everyone else had to chip in.
tl;dr we are kinda stoned right now and eating pizza. i did not win the draft. also glad we pitched the box cause there were no real good cards in it.
Calling the deck Izzet Blitz really annoys me. It's like White Deck Wins, or Black Deck Wins (Although Orzhov Deck Cheats was clever). In my mind, blitz =
Burning-Tree Emissary strategies. Izzet "Blitz" is the only deck
with Blitz in the name with no BTEs. I'm pretty sure some moron that knows nothing about the history of magic (even the recent stuff) thought it applied to any deck with creatures, and then it stuck. That and it's a Woo brew... that guy is a real cunt.
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 4:59 pm
by Helios
Haiiro, would love some notes when you get the time. Are you using the updated (v1.3) sideboard?
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 5:01 pm
by Alex
Went to a win-a-box today and ended up splitting for the box with a friend of mine. We were both on Izzet Blitz and didn't really need to play out the mirror, (it's a coin flip matchup) so we went halfsies on the box and decided to do a $13 draft at my house and split the cash. Winner got free pizza, everyone else had to chip in.
tl;dr we are kinda stoned right now and eating pizza. i did not win the draft. also glad we pitched the box cause there were no real good cards in it.
Calling the deck Izzet Blitz really annoys me. It's like White Deck Wins, or Black Deck Wins (
Although Orzhov Deck Cheats was clever). In my mind, blitz =
Burning-Tree Emissary strategies. Izzet "Blitz" is the only deck with Blitz in the name with no BTEs. I'm pretty sure some moron that knows nothing about the history of magic (even the recent stuff) thought it applied to any deck with creatures, and then it stuck. That and it's a Woo brew... that guy is a real cunt.
I've always known it to be a term used for decks that play all dudes and attack into everything. This deck does that.
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 5:13 pm
by photodyer
Okay, my spelling OCD drove me to track down the word sub function that Alex used to mess with supr gaye. There is no "US" in Porphoros, and now it should autofix when it's mistyped as a spongy-sounding adjective form.
There is, however, a u in Purphoros.

Oh the pain! Yes, let's have some Monday irony...excellent catch, ws...

Too damn
funny. See James? Even I screw it up!!!
Totally changing gears...anyone had word from red leader?
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 5:17 pm
by Helios
He has been conspicuously absent this weekend. I suspect it has something to do with hookers and blow.
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 5:21 pm
by DarthStabber
There were blitz decks before burning tree emissary, and they'll exist when (s)he's rotated out. Is there any agreement on BTE's gender, because I can't tell if it's a she or just a little effeminate looking. The burning-tree clan's shaman was unambiguously manly (and damn was a badass)
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 5:43 pm
by Valdarith
My States report:
viewtopic.php?p=119180#p119180
Nothing too detailed. Just a generalization of my experiences.
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 6:13 pm
by redthirst
More like lawyers and banks. Sorry, it's been a real busy weekend - so much so that I've had to take the day off work to catch-up. I'll be back to work tomorrow and posting to keep the boredom at bay.
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 6:23 pm
by Aodh
What's with all of the states posts today? Isn't states Oct. 12/13th (i.e., this upcoming weekend)? In any case, anyone still on AIR/BAI for states? It seems like everyone's on PyroRed and Fanatical Red. I took BAI to two Magic tournaments so far and it performed very well; likely taking some devotion variant to the LGS tonight to see how it feels. I really like the idea of devotion red in the mirror and against midrange (mostly because of Boros Reckoner), but sideboarding doesn't seem intuitive to me. Dropping reckoner against control really suggests dropping Fanatic of Mogis as well, but then that's eight sideboard cards against control which is way too many. What's the orthodox sideboarding plan for the control match-up?