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Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 5:00 pm
by redthirst
At this point, he probably has squatter's rights in the shame hole.

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 5:04 pm
by Kazekirimaru
Possible art for potential Magma Jet reprint???


Image
Scrying tears of joy.

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 5:05 pm
by redthirst
Kaze wins best pun.

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 5:05 pm
by Self Medicated
At this point, he probably has squatter's rights in the shame hole.
lol @ squatter

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 5:08 pm
by hamfactorial
I'm going to goldfish with Z's RDW idea, it seems extraordinarily fun.

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 5:14 pm
by Khaospawn
There's nothing like a good, deep squat inside a dirty shame hole.

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 5:28 pm
by photodyer
Possible art for potential Magma Jet reprint???


Image
Scrying tears of joy.
Actually, she is part of the art dump for Akros, which is the Boros-like city. She is labeled on Sally as "Flamespeaker".

This, however, looks like a magma-based red spell...
feat261c_14_d6qx4onhmp res.jpg

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 5:35 pm
by TubeHunter
Magma Squirt?

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 5:36 pm
by Khaospawn
You call that a magma based red spell?
Magma Squirt?
Now that's a magma based red spell.

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 5:40 pm
by Jack
Possible art for potential Magma Jet reprint???


Image
Scrying tears of joy.
Actually, she is part of the art dump for Akros, which is the Boros-like city. She is labeled on Sally as "Flamespeaker".

This, however, looks like a magma-based red spell...
feat261c_14_d6qx4onhmp res.jpg
It was in Wizards planeswalker 's Guide, under a paragraph talking about prophecy. The flamespeakers are prophets. It keeps looking better!

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 5:49 pm
by Platypus
Magma Jet is in the upcoming Heroes vs Monsters duel deck as well. It's starting to look very plausible to me.

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 6:00 pm
by Khaospawn
I just Scryed my pants.

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 6:04 pm
by Alex
Its a shame they didn't reprint Electrolyze in Return to Ravnica block, because having Electrolyze and Magma Jet in the same Standard format would be boner-inducing.

No seriously, every deck I play would have Aetherling and Young Pyromancer in it. Forever and always.

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 6:13 pm
by Alex
Also some unconfirmed spoilers here. http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=533408

Looks like we might have been right about Nimbus Maze, but I still find it really hard to believe that it will be this cycle. Those lands are an upgrade to the duals we're losing, not "slight downgrades."

A non-instant Swords to Plowshares seems fair and likely, though.

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 6:18 pm
by Jack
Smells like bullshit

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 6:20 pm
by Valdarith
Also some unconfirmed spoilers here. http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=533408

Looks like we might have been right about Nimbus Maze, but I still find it really hard to believe that it will be this cycle. Those lands are an upgrade to the duals we're losing, not "slight downgrades."

A non-instant Swords to Plowshares seems fair and likely, though.
I'm confused. Are they saying that all the duals will have an effect like Nimbus Maze, or are they saying that they are going to reprint Grove, River, etc?

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 6:21 pm
by PirateKingAtomsk
Magma Squirt?
Thirst has this problem(?) all the time :unibrow:

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 6:23 pm
by Alex
Also some unconfirmed spoilers here. http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=533408

Looks like we might have been right about Nimbus Maze, but I still find it really hard to believe that it will be this cycle. Those lands are an upgrade to the duals we're losing, not "slight downgrades."

A non-instant Swords to Plowshares seems fair and likely, though.
I'm confused. Are they saying that all the duals will have an effect like
Nimbus Maze, or are they saying that they are going to reprint Grove, River, etc?
I was unclear on that too. Hopefully they're just wrong entirely. I really don't want mana to continue to be THIS good anymore, I'm tired of playing around tri-color decks with perfect mana.

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 6:45 pm
by PirateKingAtomsk
Also some unconfirmed spoilers here. http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=533408

Looks like we might have been right about Nimbus Maze, but I still find it really hard to believe that it will be this cycle. Those lands are an upgrade to the duals we're losing, not "slight downgrades."

A non-instant [card]Swords
to Plowshares[/card] seems fair and likely, though.
I'm confused. Are they saying that all the duals will have an effect like Nimbus Maze, or are they saying that they are going to reprint Grove, River, etc?
I was unclear on that too. Hopefully they're just wrong entirely. I really don't want mana to continue to be THIS good anymore, I'm tired of playing around tri-color decks with perfect mana.
But 14 damage for 4 mana is awesome

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 7:21 pm
by rcwraspy
EDIT: Snip. Because stupid is as stupid does.

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 7:27 pm
by redthirst
Shocks and Nimbus Maze cycle is slightly worse for a 3-color deck than Shocks and Checklands. It's the same to slightly better for 2-color, since it doesn't come in tapped but can only create colorless unless you have the basic type(s) in play.

How it's slightly worse than checklands in 3-color decks:

Overgrown Tomb gives Swamp/Forest
Play Rootbound Crag untapped because Forest
Play Dragonskull Summit untapped because Swamp

Overgrown Tomb gives Swamp/Forest
Red/Green Nimbus can only produce green or colorless
Red/Black Nimbus can only produce black or colorless

You don't get to tap either for red until you have a mountain type in play.
Overgrown gives B/G
RG Nimbus gives R because you have a Forest
RB Nimbus gives R because you have
a Swamp

You still get all 3, you just don't get access to a second B or G until you drop a Mountain.

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 7:41 pm
by TubeHunter
damn right

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 7:47 pm
by rcwraspy
Shocks and Nimbus Maze cycle is slightly worse for a 3-color deck than Shocks and Checklands. It's the same to slightly better for 2-color, since it doesn't come in tapped but can only create colorless unless you have the basic type(s) in play.

How it's slightly worse than checklands in 3-color decks:

Overgrown Tomb gives Swamp/Forest
Play Rootbound Crag untapped because Forest
Play Dragonskull Summit untapped because Swamp

Overgrown Tomb gives Swamp/Forest
Red/Green Nimbus can only produce green or colorless
Red/Black Nimbus can only produce black or colorless

You don't get to tap either for
red until you have a mountain type in play.
Overgrown gives B/G
RG Nimbus gives R because you have a Forest
RB Nimbus gives R because you have a Swamp

You still get all 3, you just don't get access to a second B or G until you drop a Mountain.
lol derp. you're right, of course.

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 7:53 pm
by redthirst
I'm with PKA, though. My Burning Earths and I want people to continue to play 25nonbasicland.dec

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 8:04 pm
by hamfactorial
I'd be very pleased to have a full Nimbus cycle for all the color pairs.

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 8:14 pm
by TubeHunter
i would be ambivalent

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 9:17 pm
by Kazekirimaru
I'd be very pleased to have a full Nimbus cycle for all the color pairs.
All of my /barn

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 9:19 pm
by Valdarith
I'd like it to be the entire cycle of Future Sight lands personally. Grove of the Burnwillows and Horizon Canopy reprint? Hell yeah.

Of course I'm dreaming and that will never happen.

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 9:34 pm
by Khaospawn
I'd like it to be the entire cycle of Future Sight lands personally. Grove of the Burnwillows and Horizon Canopy reprint? Hell yeah.

Of course I'm dreaming and that will never happen.
If the mission to send a T-800 back in time to kill Sarah Connor succeeds, then the future as we anticipate may very well never happen. In layman's terms, we may never see some of these future cards.

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 9:38 pm
by Kazekirimaru
Horizon Canopy will likely never be reprinted.

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 9:38 pm
by Kazekirimaru
Except in some MTG FtV shit.

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 9:55 pm
by zemanjaski
Things break, they heal.

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:15 pm
by windstrider
Magma Jet spoiler?
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=533543

Uses the leonin art.

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:22 pm
by Jack
HELL YEAH!

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:23 pm
by Kazekirimaru
Seems legit to me.

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:33 pm
by Kazekirimaru
On second thought I think they're both fake.

The timing is too suspicious.

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:49 pm
by Alex
Also some unconfirmed spoilers here. http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=533408

Looks like we might have been right about Nimbus Maze, but I still find it really hard to
believe that it will be this cycle. Those lands are an upgrade to the duals we're losing, not "slight downgrades."

A non-instant Swords to Plowshares seems fair and likely, though.
I'm confused. Are they saying that all the duals will have an effect like Nimbus Maze, or are they saying that they are going to reprint Grove, River, etc?
I was unclear on that too. Hopefully they're just wrong entirely. I really don't want mana to continue to be THIS good anymore, I'm tired of playing around tri-color decks with perfect mana.
But 14 damage for 4 mana is awesome
Despite all of the work I've done for these forums, you'd be surprised to know that it isn't a labor of love. I'm not a huge mono red advocate, I just happen to have a lot of experience building all kinds of decks, and mono red lists come together easily.

I'm actually a really big control player. I want to kill people
with Celestial Colonnades and Creeping Tar Pits in every format if possible. Day of Judgment is one of my favorite cards. I like playing control decks that feature red and white. I like board wipes in general.

Never been all that big on turning dudes sideways. :no2: It's OK if you guys are ashamed of me.

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:51 pm
by Kazekirimaru
The shamehole just opened up a vacancy.

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:52 pm
by Valdarith
Streaming mono red pyromancer now:

http://www.twitch.tv/valdarith

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:53 pm
by Alex
The shamehole just opened up a vacancy.
I'm going to play my Cedric Phillips card here.

"Hey, I went to a Pro Tour once, that means I know more than you!"