[Fedoras of Salvation] - White Knights ITT

Kaitscralt · Postby **Kaitscralt** » Mon Oct 13, 2014 3:18 am

Basement dweller nerds translate character, excitement and charisma as doucheness

zemanjaski · Postby **zemanjaski** » Mon Oct 13, 2014 3:21 am

I'm above ground at least 10% of the time.

LP, of the Fires · Postby **LP, of the Fires** » Mon Oct 13, 2014 3:22 am

Yeah, it's a Pro Tour top 8 in Hawaii. I don't mind someone being excited about that.

I'm also happy Ari Won since he's probably one of the 5 best magic writers currently.

zemanjaski · Postby **zemanjaski** » Mon Oct 13, 2014 3:25 am

Yeah that I agree with. My comments certainly weren't directed at his behaviour at this PT - by all means be as excited as you like - but at his behaviour in general. Which like my own, is less than stellar. Just an observation.

Still, this isn't the time, a deserving win, hope he enjoys it.

Lightning_Dolt · Postby **Lightning_Dolt** » Mon Oct 13, 2014 3:26 am

I for one, welcome our new Abzan overlords.

zemanjaski · Postby **zemanjaski** » Mon Oct 13, 2014 3:32 am

I like midrange formats and this one looks exciting; as others have commented there's quite a few playable decks moving forward. Hopefully sonething for Mardu and Temur fans can be worked out.

Kinda want to splash big Garruk now in UB to go way over these midrange decks!

zemanjaski · Postby **zemanjaski** » Mon Oct 13, 2014 3:36 am

Kinda cool we have a standard combo deck too.

Lightning_Dolt · Postby **Lightning_Dolt** » Mon Oct 13, 2014 3:37 am

I agree with that.

BlakLanner · Postby **BlakLanner** » Mon Oct 13, 2014 3:38 am

I am upset simply because I am already sick of seeing Siege Rhinos and all the copycats will make them more common. I do like seeing a viable combo deck in Standard for once.

I agree with Riki's tweet about Ari's behavior at the table:

Riki Hayashi ‏@mtgRikipedia
Showing emotion is fine. You would be excited if you made PT finals too. @armlx has been amicable in conversation with opponents. #ptktk

Lightning_Dolt · Postby **Lightning_Dolt** » Mon Oct 13, 2014 3:46 am

Top Decks:

http://magic.wizards.com/en/events/cove ... 2014-10-12

zemanjaski · Postby **zemanjaski** » Mon Oct 13, 2014 3:48 am

Seige Rhino is less annoying than Thragtusk, so methods to combat the enemy will be developed - at least now it has a face.

Christen · Postby **Christen** » Mon Oct 13, 2014 3:49 am

Might be worthwhile to run Erebos in the side again.

Lightning_Dolt · Postby **Lightning_Dolt** » Mon Oct 13, 2014 3:51 am

Seige Rhino is less annoying than Thragtusk, so methods to combat the enemy will be developed - at least now it has a face.

Not sure I agree. You could chump thrag forever and go over the top. Trample pushes Rhino a bit too far.

Lightning_Dolt · Postby **Lightning_Dolt** » Mon Oct 13, 2014 3:51 am

Guess the biggest question is, what's the best way to deal with Rhino?

Khaospawn · Postby **Khaospawn** » Mon Oct 13, 2014 3:52 am

The answer is not Jeskai.......

TBuzzsaw · Postby **TBuzzsaw** » Mon Oct 13, 2014 3:55 am

I personally don't think Ari's a douche, just a lot of people seems to think so.

I love Siege Rhino. It's interesting that they originally had it as a 3 drop.

Mcdonalds · Postby **Mcdonalds** » Mon Oct 13, 2014 3:57 am

Seige Rhino is less annoying than Thragtusk, so methods to combat the enemy will be developed - at least now it has a face.
Not sure I agree. You could chump thrag forever and go over the top. Trample pushes Rhino a bit too far.

You kill rhino, he doesn't leave a homie behind

You also don't have Resto making him genuinely infuriating to play against.

Lightning_Dolt · Postby **Lightning_Dolt** » Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:01 am

They've got Whip though. If you exile him, they have ways to remove your chain or ring. Trample annoys me more.

zemanjaski · Postby **zemanjaski** » Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:01 am

Yeah Thragtusk is way more powerful ~ but it may be that there are not as powerful tools to handle it either. I dunno. I'm not that concerned with it as I'm playing UB control; the decks two drops are much more concerning for me.

Floch and McClaren are also players to watch now hey?

zemanjaski · Postby **zemanjaski** » Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:02 am

I'm writing this off as obligatory good natured Keith complaining

It'll all be fine in the end. If it's not fine, then it isn't over.

Lightning_Dolt · Postby **Lightning_Dolt** » Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:05 am

I'm not trying to complain, just trying to convey that I lost to it this weekend, solely because of the trample and it's something to watch out for / try to anticipate. You can't chump block a Rhino.

Lightning_Dolt · Postby **Lightning_Dolt** » Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:06 am

What do we think is the best way to kill it? Banishing Light? Downfall?

Lightning_Dolt · Postby **Lightning_Dolt** » Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:07 am

For the record, I still hate Jeskai charm more.

Christen · Postby **Christen** » Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:08 am

I've had a bad experience using Banishing Light/Chained to the Rocks with Rhino, and them just getting rid of my enchantment.

LP, of the Fires · Postby **LP, of the Fires** » Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:08 am

Siege Rhino feels much more powerful then thragtusk.

Tusk was extends games, Rhino ends them.

Relevantly, I'm saying this from the perspective of an agro player and I could usually kill me opponent by the tame they played Tusk or the turn after it came out.

LP, of the Fires · Postby **LP, of the Fires** » Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:09 am

Disdainful stroke is the best answer to rhino.

Lightning_Dolt · Postby **Lightning_Dolt** » Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:09 am

Maybe Utter End should be considered more seriously?

zemanjaski · Postby **zemanjaski** » Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:10 am

Silence the Believers / counterspells are good.

Lightning_Dolt · Postby **Lightning_Dolt** » Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:11 am

Disdainful stroke is the best answer to rhino.

You and I both know I'm not going to play blue lol.

Christen · Postby **Christen** » Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:12 am

Disdainful Stroke is looking a lot more attractive in this meta.

Lightning_Dolt · Postby **Lightning_Dolt** » Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:13 am

Silence the Believers / counterspells are good.

Do you think Silence is better than Utter End?

LP, of the Fires · Postby **LP, of the Fires** » Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:13 am

That or play some sultai Murderous cut deck.

LP, of the Fires · Postby **LP, of the Fires** » Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:14 am

In Mardu Colors, I like utter end, then Silence the Believers.

LP, of the Fires · Postby **LP, of the Fires** » Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:14 am

I'd probably take banishing light before silence actually.

zemanjaski · Postby **zemanjaski** » Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:15 am

Well then...maybe sac outlets plus threatens?

Silence is better in UB, otherwise play the other options I think.

Christen · Postby **Christen** » Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:16 am

I miss Bloodthrone Vampire already.

LP, of the Fires · Postby **LP, of the Fires** » Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:18 am

The better question is...what should I play at GP LA?

I'm leaning Jeskai in the same vein as McClaren's deck.

Lightning_Dolt · Postby **Lightning_Dolt** » Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:19 am

This weekend I Harness by Force'd a Polukranos, World Eater and a mosterous Stormbreath Dragon, swung for 17, then sacced them to my Butcher of the Horde. Felt good man.

Lightning_Dolt · Postby **Lightning_Dolt** » Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:19 am

The better question is...what should I play at GP LA?

I'm leaning Jeskai in the same vein as McClaren's deck.

Do you really think that's a good idea? Abzan is going to be the deck to beat...

LP, of the Fires · Postby **LP, of the Fires** » Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:26 am

It's the deck I'm most comfortable with. It's either Jeskai deck wins or Abzen Aggro.

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