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Postby Elricity » Tue May 13, 2014 4:46 am

I'll give Wondershare a try. Thanks.

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Postby Elricity » Tue May 13, 2014 9:13 am

Ok, finishing uploading everything to Youtube.

I found ways not to have the link on the banner for the channel and for each upload you have to specifically tell it not to upload to google plus. But yeah, I just used my old backup account.

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Postby magicdownunder » Tue May 13, 2014 1:50 pm

IMOPEN2!!!!!!!! can I borrow the Mana Confluence you opened (unless you need it, though you may want to sell it while it still worth >9 <10 the card should drop in price fast)?
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Postby imopen2 » Tue May 13, 2014 3:29 pm

I already sold it :D
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Postby Elricity » Tue May 13, 2014 8:25 pm

I need to play with my audio to get rid of that back static.

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Postby magicdownunder » Wed May 14, 2014 1:38 am

I already sold it :D
Darn it, but well played (selling it is correct, I can't imagine it staying at these prices in the long term).
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Postby Rhyno » Wed May 14, 2014 4:32 am

So Force of Will got spoiled for Vintage Masters, does this mean I should sell my promo? I am clueless in regard to market trends on MTGO.

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Postby magicdownunder » Wed May 14, 2014 4:37 am

So Force of Will got spoiled for Vintage Masters, does this mean I should sell my promo? I am clueless in regard to market trends on MTGO.
Promo are usually worth more in time, but with vintage master it will drop in price again slightly.

Are short are you in your inf. run? if you need extra tickets to stay over the line then sell it earlier.
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Postby imopen2 » Wed May 14, 2014 6:25 am

I think I'm holding mine long term...I want to play vintage when it comes to modo (as long as the prices are reasonable) and I will hopefully be able to trade the promo version for a regular one+extra tix if I end up going in
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Postby magicdownunder » Wed May 14, 2014 1:39 pm

I was chatting with Pedros our local MODO economical expert and it seems that Vintage Masters is going too RUIN all our promos we have saved from our MOCS conquests, I truly hope this isn't the case :tears:
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Postby rezombad » Wed May 14, 2014 3:59 pm

Re:reasonable prices, p9 has been announced to be twice as rare as a mythic.
You post on dtr? Cool? Honestly, I don't know who posts there and who doesn't.
I actually read that site quite a bit but its mostly because a lot of the people I used to interact with on MTGS are over there.
It should be a privilege to post here

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Postby imopen2 » Wed May 14, 2014 4:04 pm

But you only need one of each
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Postby montu » Thu May 15, 2014 1:55 am

Wow. Just logged into the beta client. The made the game sounds HORRIBLE.

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Postby imopen2 » Thu May 15, 2014 3:48 am

I never have audio on.

I've made the finals of 2 of the last 3 full block 8-4s but cant win :/
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Postby magicdownunder » Thu May 15, 2014 5:40 am

I need to play with my audio to get rid of that back static.
The back static isn't that bad, would you be able to release HD videos in the future its kinda hard watching the games on the TV with 480p (have to switch too my PC).

Also upload any Junk game where you used revel in it please :smileup:
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Postby magicdownunder » Thu May 15, 2014 10:39 am

Pedros when you have time can you run me through why you believe BnG will go down in price? The payout is (for SE) 2 THS, 1 BNG and 2 JOU...

The DE are still cashing out THS and BNG only, unless the DE shift the balance a little BNG may actually rise in price.
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Postby Pedros » Thu May 15, 2014 3:46 pm

I will go over every payout:

8-4 Draft
1st: 3 THS, 3 BNG, and 2 JOU boosters
2nd: 1 THS, 1 BNG, and 2 JOU boosters

Total Payout: 4 THS, 4 BNG, 4 JOU

4-3-2-2 Draft
1st: 2 THS, 1 BNG, and 1 JOU booster
2nd: 1 THS, 1 BNG, and 1 JOU booster
3rd-4th: 1 BNG, and 1 JOU booster

Total Payout: 3 THS, 4 BNG, 4 JOU

Constructed 8-Man
1st: 2 THS, 1 BNG, and 2 JOU boosters
2nd: 1 THS, 1 BNG, and 1 JOU booster
3rd-4th: 1 BNG, and 1 JOU booster

Total Payout: 3 THS, 4 BNG, 5 JOU

Swiss Draft
3 Wins: 1 THS, 1 BNG, and 1 JOU booster
2 Wins: 1 BNG, and 1 JOU booster
1 Wins: 1 BNG booster

In 3 round swiss with 8 people you have result distribution: 1 (3wins), 3 (2wins), 3(1 wins), 1(0 wins)
Total Payout: 1 THS, 7 BNG, 4 Jou

Sealed Daily
4 Wins: 3 THS, 4 BNG, and 4 JOU boosters
3 Wins: 2 THS, 2 BNG, and 2 JOU boosters
2 Wins: 1 THS, 1 BNG, and 1 JOU booster

When full 128: 8 (4 wins), 32 (3
wins), 48 (2 wins).
Total payout: 136 THS, 144 BNG, 144 JOU

Constructed Daily
4 Wins: 3 THS, 4 BNG, and 4 JOU boosters
3 Wins: 2 THS, 2 BNG, and 2 JOU boosters

When full 128: 8 (4 wins), 32 (3 wins)
Total Payout: 88 THS, 96 BNG, 96 JOU

I hope I didnt do math wrong.

Hope you understand now.
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Postby Elricity » Thu May 15, 2014 5:01 pm

I need to play with my audio to get rid of that back static.
The back static isn't that bad, would you be able to release HD videos in the future its kinda hard watching the games on the TV with 480p (have to switch too my PC).
Now that I'm not trying to stream (at 200kbs), I hopefully should be able to update the quality so Youtube will play in HD. I had turned advertisements off so I wonder if that disabled it beyond the bad quality of the videos. Out of curiosity, what does your average 10 minute video take in file size?

I haven't been on MTGO in a few days,
has Revel gone down in price? My junk testing was on Cockatrice which I'm aware isn't the best sample. My reasoning behind junk is it's much slower than jund but with higher inevitability from my experience so my life total is far less relevant than theirs.

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Postby magicdownunder » Fri May 16, 2014 12:05 am

@Pedros: Thanks your a hero, based on that data once the DE payouts change so will the value of boosters.

@Elricity:
Revel is skyrocketing in price (same with Banishing Light) I was wrong in my earlier predictions (though I still think it will go down eventually) they're both selling for 3+ now.
In-regards with file size the adv. 10 clip would be under 200 MB.
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Postby Pedros » Fri May 16, 2014 12:12 pm

@Pedros: Thanks your a hero, based on that data once the DE payouts change so will the value of boosters.

@Elricity:
Revel is skyrocketing in price (same with Banishing Light) I was wrong in my earlier predictions (though I still think it will go down eventually) they're both selling for 3+ now.
In-regards with file size the adv. 10 clip would be under 200 MB.
I dont understand it. Theros boosters are 2,45 while journey are 3,7.
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Postby Kaitscralt » Fri May 16, 2014 1:01 pm

Did bots start buying BNG again?
Standard hobos who play budget garbage should be looked upon with suspicion.

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Postby magicdownunder » Fri May 16, 2014 1:20 pm

Nope BnG are still worth nothing (>3).

@Pedros:

Its because the current Payouts are still the same for DEs the only events cashing out JOU are limited and SE hence the High demand for JOU but low supply (which is great for me because I just won 3 SE netting me 6 JOU boosters all selling for 3.8).

That said if your information is correct, once the new pay structure arrives everything will go as plan (also the JOU championship starts on the 28 which will mean ALL JOU for payouts in SE (hopefully)).
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Postby Kaitscralt » Fri May 16, 2014 1:55 pm

Yeah but the other day bits literally weren't buying BNG at all
Standard hobos who play budget garbage should be looked upon with suspicion.

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Postby magicdownunder » Fri May 16, 2014 2:38 pm

Yeah but the other day bits literally weren't buying BNG at all
Odd, I used Goatbots because I hate waiting and I haven't experience any issues like that.
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Postby Elricity » Fri May 16, 2014 4:09 pm

Yeah but the other day bits literally weren't buying BNG at all
Which was annoying because they were still advertising the prices. I had to hunt pretty hard to find ones that were buying. Only at 35 tickets at the moment so I think I'll wait a bit before I invest in the revel experiment.

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Postby magicdownunder » Sat May 17, 2014 2:39 am

@Kaitscralt and Elricity: What Bots do you guys use and why? Anyone else experience the same problem as these guys?

I just have Goatbots saved because they're reliable and quick (I havn't used that many bots, but compared with the rest goat's tends to make the trade really really quick).
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Postby imopen2 » Sat May 17, 2014 5:00 am

I use a ton of bots but I don't usually sell packs. I just put them back into drafting. I'm up to 14 Jou and 18 Theros tho...been nearly infinite the last 3-4 weeks now. Qps are still escaping me tho
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Postby hoeiberg » Sat May 17, 2014 11:50 am

Hi guys. Just started my MTGO account, I'm not a super skilled player but I'm trying to improve. Think i could join the clan? My username is: hchoeiberg

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Postby magicdownunder » Sat May 17, 2014 12:28 pm

Hi guys. Just started my MTGO account, I'm not a super skilled player but I'm trying to improve. Think i could join the clan? My username is: hchoeiberg
Cool :smileup: we all have to start somewhere, Lazerburn will add you hchoeiberg (I like your anti-snipe name, its gonna be annoying for people to try and look you up pre-match) when he gets online.

@IO2: Random question, what timezone do you operate in? I'm asking because I hardly ever see DtR members online beside Z (AUS, 1h diff. since he is from Melb), Lazer (UK), Closed (he is one of the rare early riser American) and yourself.
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Postby imopen2 » Sat May 17, 2014 2:25 pm

Central standard time. Brisbane and Melbourne appear to be 15 hours ahead of me...I play a lot of modo
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Postby Kaitscralt » Sat May 17, 2014 4:05 pm

it's very hard for us to be online when you and Z are
Standard hobos who play budget garbage should be looked upon with suspicion.

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Postby LaZerBurn » Sat May 17, 2014 11:02 pm

Hi guys. Just started my MTGO account, I'm not a super skilled player but I'm trying to improve. Think i could join the clan? My username is: hchoeiberg
Cool :smileup: we all have to start somewhere, Lazerburn will add you hchoeiberg (I like your anti-snipe name, its gonna be annoying for people to try and look you up pre-match) when he gets online.

@IO2: Random question, what timezone do you operate in? I'm asking because I hardly ever see DtR members
online beside Z (AUS, 1h diff. since he is from Melb), Lazer (UK), Closed (he is one of the rare early riser American) and yourself.
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Postby magicdownunder » Sun May 18, 2014 1:34 pm

Man... I feel really jealous of you lot playing 8-Mans or limited right now.... JOU is pretty much selling for 3.95 each which is disgustingly high.

If Pedros is correct (I havn't seen his source of information but he usually correct) the pay structure SHOULD change after the next DT (which will drop JOU prices dramatically) and if the JOU championship (starts on the 28th) is anything like the BNG championship the pay structure for those two weeks should be PURE JOU for 8-Man which will further drop prices and increase the value of other boosters.
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Postby imopen2 » Tue May 20, 2014 10:34 pm

Drafted an awesome BG deck yesterday with all the terrible self-mill creatures, a font of return, the spider that can regrowth something, the card the gets an enchantment+a creature back, a couple death touch dudes, bile blight, and 3 asphixiate.

I went 3-0 with my only game loss being in the finals to a countermand that decked me when I had the game all but won (I only had 4 cards left but I knew 1 was a nessian asp, 1 was an asphixiate, and 1 was the return an enchantment+creature from grave and any of those were enough to win)

:5rupee: :1rupee: :1rupee: :1rupee:
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Postby Kaitscralt » Tue May 20, 2014 11:30 pm

lol, countermand sideboard tech
Standard hobos who play budget garbage should be looked upon with suspicion.

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Postby imopen2 » Wed May 21, 2014 4:36 am

It was game 1 x_x
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Postby imopen2 » Wed May 21, 2014 4:37 am

Drafted basically the same deck again tonight. In the finals atm.
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TwinBGenerationX: I wanna trade cards I could trade you, BUT NOT MY CHARIZARD!

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Postby magicdownunder » Wed May 21, 2014 4:50 am

Are you going to play the MOCS6 the format is Block Constructed (if it ever launches)? It doesn't seem like your going to have any problems earning 15 QP.
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Postby imopen2 » Wed May 21, 2014 5:00 am

Yea ill play. I have basically all the cards so why not. Lost game 3 :(
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Postby magicdownunder » Wed May 21, 2014 5:03 am

Yea ill play. I have basically all the cards so why not. Lost game 3 :(
Darn about G3.

I know nothing about block constructed, people tell me its a fantastic format for grinders though - I do hope when MOSC6 does launch the format isn't KTK :p
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