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Postby zemanjaski » Wed Jan 29, 2014 7:06 am

I have a bunch of scum to find. You might be one. At least explain your void / imopen2 comment.
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Postby Link » Wed Jan 29, 2014 7:28 am

ME? SCUM?

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Postby zemanjaski » Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:15 am

I know, I'm shocked I'm even thinking it.
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Postby Stardust » Wed Jan 29, 2014 2:22 pm

Sure. I have no better options and haven't liked his coasting the last week or so. Let's do it.

Vote freedom. That should be L-1.
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Postby Stardust » Wed Jan 29, 2014 2:29 pm

The following players are very likely town: rcwraspy, Wraith223, DroppinSuga, me. I'll probably doc one of them (just so all the mafia's on the same page).
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Postby DroppinSuga » Wed Jan 29, 2014 2:43 pm

I don't care, I'll lay the hammer down.

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Postby Stardust » Wed Jan 29, 2014 2:59 pm

Well now that's scummy. You're not getting doc'd tonight, buddy.
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Postby DroppinSuga » Wed Jan 29, 2014 3:02 pm

This day has gone on far too long. Freedom, imopen and Zem are all scum in my mind so I have no problem laying the hammer down on any of them. Someone had to do it, so I figured I'd take the initiative. I'm sure Zem's scum team will off me tonight anyways.
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Postby Jack » Wed Jan 29, 2014 3:20 pm

Aww, shit. I was actually town. Now that you know that, would some of you please give some feedback on my play so that I don't do this to you again? Also, since zem was pretty much the only player against whom I had developed a case, how do you feel about my case on him in the new light of my proven alignment?
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Postby imopen2 » Wed Jan 29, 2014 3:22 pm

Try not to comment on your own play much. I felt confident you were town but some people here will jump on any signs of "self awareness."

Your case on Zem was fine
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Postby rcwraspy » Wed Jan 29, 2014 3:26 pm

Well, we don't know for sure that you're town until the flip. Even though that post makes me doubt our lynch now.

Your questions are probably best left for the wrap-up after the game has ended. I'm sure Stardust or Iso or other more experienced players could give you some input.

We also have 4 scum in this game, and if you flip town I expect 3 or 4 to be on your wagon.
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Postby rcwraspy » Wed Jan 29, 2014 3:27 pm

It's also important to know that lynching scum day 1 is very hard to do correctly. In my experience and from what I've heard, town usually get lynched day 1 but the interactions help hunt starting in day 2. I wouldn't take it too hard if you're really town.
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Postby rezombad » Wed Jan 29, 2014 3:35 pm

I dont know what to think about stardust hammering and then calling suga scummy.
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Postby Stardust » Wed Jan 29, 2014 3:35 pm

Yeah, if you're town, be town. You don't need to try to be town - you are town. A lot of this game left you feeling forced and unnatural, which is usually a good sign of scum. I tried to defend you since I thought all that was coming from the same place as last game, but then you let your posting slip at awkward times. I don't know what advice to give you there other than to care about the game whether you're about to die or not.

Your case on zemanjaski was fine, but there just wasn't enough there to convince me.
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Postby Stardust » Wed Jan 29, 2014 3:36 pm

I dont know what to think about stardust hammering and then calling suga scummy.
I didn't hammer. I just set-up the nail. :cool2:

Who would you have liked to lynch instead?
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Postby rcwraspy » Wed Jan 29, 2014 3:38 pm

I dont know what to think about stardust hammering and then calling suga scummy.
I didn't hammer. I just set-up the nail. :cool2:

Who would you have liked to lynch instead?
No, you hammered. By my count, Fate was the L-1 and Suga was the 8th vote.
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Postby rezombad » Wed Jan 29, 2014 3:39 pm

Learn to count. Fate put him at l-1.

Im fine with a freedom lynch. Im just trying to make sense of this page, and in particular your hammer and mudslinging at suga, and suga attempting to hammer even though freedom had 7 votes on him.
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Postby Stardust » Wed Jan 29, 2014 3:41 pm

Huh. I actually recounted that twice before laying my vote down. Oh well.
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Postby ( G_R ) » Wed Jan 29, 2014 4:39 pm

I told you that guy is scum. Going after him tomorrow.
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Postby zemanjaski » Wed Jan 29, 2014 4:54 pm

Probs Town: wraith, rezombad, rcwraspy, dropinstupid, G_R.

I don't know what to make of Stardust's recent play. The voting slip doesn't seem genuine; the doctor claims are weird and unexpected from my previous games with SD. Fate's play is consistent with what I've learned about his scum game.
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Postby Link » Wed Jan 29, 2014 5:20 pm

I'm curious what you've learned about my scum game

you don't want to make an enemy of me this early z

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Postby zemanjaski » Wed Jan 29, 2014 5:26 pm

I'm curious as to why you wouldn't answer my earlier questions.
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Postby imopen2 » Wed Jan 29, 2014 5:28 pm

Wasn't fate town in the only game he played here? Correct me if I'm wrong tho
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Postby zemanjaski » Wed Jan 29, 2014 5:30 pm

He plays on at least two other sites and I've referred to that previously.
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Postby Wraith223 » Wed Jan 29, 2014 6:55 pm

From Zem,
Aside: Wraith needs to stop with the crap gifs from crap shows
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I don't talk trash on the crap youtube vids you put up on FoS. Don't hate on my shows. Supernatural has a great selection if gifs though.

So you guys hammered Freedom. I find Captain Murphy, Iamopen2, or Fate would have been better targets. I think to many of town this game are fairly stupid, to quiet, and flaky. Zem did a good job with the write up against Freedom though but I think to many are bandwagoning on with Zem instead of making their own reads/calls (not accusing Zem of Bandwagoning). DroppinSuga ,or DroppinStupid as Zem so appropriately called our special ed. player, has contributed nothing but scum posts that just jump on vote trains to lynch anyone with significant movement. Fate is not
much better and warrants investigation as well. I still don't like Stardust claiming the doctor, and wish he/she would stop it as it does nothing but raise my suspicions.

I stated my support for a freedom vote if it went high enough. Even though you guys hammered; I still have to complete my claimed duty. Freedom has just been way to scummy as of late.
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Postby Stardust » Wed Jan 29, 2014 7:13 pm

Freedom, Captain Murphy, imopen2 and Fate are scum.
DroppingSuga and Stardust are scummy.
zemanjaski is the best.

What "stupid, quiet, and flaky" townies are you referring to here? rcwraspy, Void, Manders, rezombad and (G_R) are the only players left. You think Manders is scum, so I guess that leaves the other 4.


Wraith, I bring this up because I'm trying to improve you as a player. You have 7 scum leads right now. You start your post off bitching that we lynched freedom, then go on to vote freedom because it's your "claimed duty". You can kill without using your brain, but you'll get better results if you try your best to use it.
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Postby DroppinSuga » Wed Jan 29, 2014 7:17 pm

I'm special ed. :D
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Postby Jack » Wed Jan 29, 2014 7:22 pm

You realize that I'm town, right? There is absolutely no reason for me to lie when the lynch is locked in. You just voted for a townie unnecessary. Now is the time to talk about the "what ifs" of the night kills before they happen. I have a feeling that the town will be targeted Night 1, rather than those whom each scum team thinks is on the other team, since the scum need each other early to quickly eliminate town.
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Postby Jack » Wed Jan 29, 2014 7:22 pm

That was directed at Wraith.
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Postby Wraith223 » Wed Jan 29, 2014 8:55 pm

Freedom, Captain Murphy, imopen2 and Fate are scum.
DroppingSuga and Stardust are scummy.
zemanjaski is the best.

What "stupid, quiet, and flaky" townies are you referring to here? rcwraspy, Void, Manders, rezombad and (G_R) are the only players left. You think Manders is scum, so I guess that leaves the other 4.

Wraith, I bring this up because I'm trying to improve you as a player. You have 7 scum leads right now. You start your post off bitching that we lynched freedom, then go on to vote freedom because it's your "claimed duty". You can kill without using your brain, but you'll get better results if you try your best to use it.
I appreciate your help and comments. I do have more players in my scum list than the
game has for scum. Problem is that so many are reading as scum, lurking, posting stupid crap, making unconfirmed claims, or defending scumy posts of players. Damn this game is hard and it's difficult to pursue all the leads to check them out. Town is pissing me off as they are just jumping on bandwagons without any good reads. Rcw is really is not contributing much unless its about Freedom or checking others opinions, but that's it. He really is not scum hunting. Rez is commenting most of the time unless asked a direct question. G_R is posting more with actual content, and he seems to go after with the outlier/lurking players. Still not much content on others from him to help town. Manders has been damn near silent from just a few posts early on and just the discussion with me. I thought a pro player like her would have given more to town. What can I say? I am very concerned that town players, besides me and Zem, are not really playing this game. Freedom has been a terrible distraction from good scum
hunting as Captain Murphy and Iamopen2 are our best scum targets early this game. Why is he defending/bother to post town reads on both? Scum teams are 2 and 2, thus which one is he on? Sadly, if he roles town; it does not reveal much to me as he could have been just posting crap. I wonder if scum are all posting scum reads to confuse us.

@Freedom, I gave my word that my vote would be there if it went high enough. Even though it exceeded the minimum; I gave my word to do so as you are a terrible distraction from scum reads we had earlier game.
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Postby Kazekirimaru » Wed Jan 29, 2014 9:04 pm

Vote Count 12!
You died!

Stardust (0)
freedom (9) - Captain Murphy, Void, Manders, rcwraspy, zemanjaski, Fate, Stardust, DroppinSuga, Wraith223(Overkill!)
rcwraspy (0)
zemanjaski (1) - freedom
Void (1) - imopen2
Wraith223 (0)
Fate (0)
Captain Murphy (0)
DroppinSuga (1) - (G_R)
Manders (0)
rezombad (0)
(G_R) (0)
imopen2 (0)

Not Voting (1) - rezombad

With 13 alive, it is 7 to lynch.

Deadline is: 30 January, 2014 11:59PM EST
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Postby Kazekirimaru » Wed Jan 29, 2014 9:05 pm

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Postby Kazekirimaru » Wed Jan 29, 2014 9:21 pm

Soon after all arrived, the heated discussion began. Fingers were pointed. Names were called. People told others to die in a fire. Some even posted gifs because why the fuck not?

All were aware of the evil that had infiltrated their numbers, but who among them needed to die?

Hours passed. The rising sun began peeking through the drawn curtains. Tensions rode high. Finally, one man was chosen to be the first to leave this existence.

Freedom was immediately grabbed by the shoulders and taken to the podium behind the table. Someone removed their belt and bound his wrists. Malace shown in everyone's eyes. This one. This man was evil. He was here to destroy and subjugate; keep the city of Peaceville in disarray. This man needed to die.

Fate grabbed the ceremonial spade from the table and struck Freedom from behind with it upon his
legs forcing him into a kneel.

Fate handed the shovel to Stardust. Stardust looked Freedom in the eyes deeply, as if the stare alone could stop his beating heart. It didn't. However, the spade took care of that. Swung with all the fervor he could muster, Stardust married the edge of the spade to Freedom's temple.

A sputter. A sound of collapsing weight. Dead.

The rest of the folk immediately began searching Freedom's body. Looking for any sign or insignia; proof of Mafia affiliation.

The search was brief.

freedom was:
a Vanilla Townie.
It is now Night 1. Do not post. Night ends at 31 January, 2014 11:59 EST
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Postby Kazekirimaru » Sat Feb 01, 2014 6:28 am

The town's first attempt at purging the evil within their ranks proved unsuccessful. Defeated, all return to their houses, the proceedings held in recess for the night.

Well, maybe not all of them. For some, there was work to be done that night. Five, in fact, would find themselves not making it under their covers.


The next day the citizens return to the Town Hall to continue the summit. One by one, they file in and take their seats once more. Yet...something seems to be off. Perhaps...

...

...yes. There are fewer here than there were yesterday!


rcwraspy has died. He was...
A Vanilla Townie
With a renewed sense of urgency and terror, the town begins deliberating once again.


Day 2 has begun. With 11 alive, it is 6 to lynch.
Deadline is 14 February, 2014 11:59 PM EST
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Postby Stardust » Sat Feb 01, 2014 1:33 pm

Thank you, thank you. Compliments can be sent via PM. I also accept donations.

Fate, I'm thinking about lynching either you or Void today. Thoughts on that?
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Postby DroppinSuga » Sat Feb 01, 2014 1:42 pm

Stardust, who did you target last night?
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Postby Stardust » Sat Feb 01, 2014 1:46 pm

If I tell you that that will confirm me as doc to one of the scum teams. And we wouldn't want that. I'm still having too much fun screwing around.
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Postby DroppinSuga » Sat Feb 01, 2014 2:02 pm

Well, if you ARE doc. That leaves me and you as the only townies left.
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Postby DroppinSuga » Sat Feb 01, 2014 2:02 pm

fuck. I typed the wrong name.

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Postby Stardust » Sat Feb 01, 2014 2:43 pm

Well, if you ARE doc. That leaves me and you as the only townies left.
What does this mean?
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