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dauntless268

I actually like your Red Tricks list a lot. If Shaman is a good roleplayer, this might actually work. I have tested it very briefly to a quick 2-0 (played Gorger instead of Berserker and 4 Looming Spires - I think they are really worth it in a deck with x/1s) and liked it. But never drew Shaman... :...

dauntless268

Pretty impressive, this 5-0ing all the time...

How often do you play Shaman as a plain 2/1 with Menace in this list?

dauntless268

Yes, Radiant Flames is almost painfully well positioned at the moment...

dauntless268

I like RB a lot, here's a few points on your list - agree that combining madness and Dragons might be too much to ask in terms of consistency - is Bloodseeker legit? Seems like a horrible card in a list with so few madness outlets... - if it is good, I see really no reason why not to run a playset o...

dauntless268

I'm also still playing with mixed results. I actually own a lot of the expensive cards and from that angle find it difficult to justify not playing one of the Top Decks, but keep being drawn back to this - mainly encouraged by fond memories of playing Red in the past and your (MDU) fantastic results...

dauntless268

Not happy with the Dragons anymore, MDU?

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I 3-2ed my league yesterday, losing to Humans (hard to beat if they have their nut draws) and 4-color crats (my own fault, as I auto-piloted and auto-boarded only to get blown out my multiple Reflector Mages), winning vs. Esper Dragons (Castigator is so good), Grixis Midrange (Castigator is so good)...

dauntless268

I guess I simply realized in my testing that games where I get to 4 mana and have Dragon(s) available are games I win and Games where I'm stuck with the 1-drops and a bit of removal are the ones I lose. Tormenting Voice : I am in the market for free Lightning Bolts, making sure I get to 4 mana but n...

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Lands 22 18 Mountain 2 Looming Spires 2 Haven of the Spirit Dragon Creatures 22 4 Village Messenger 4 Insolent Neonate 4 Aboot of the Keral Keep 3 Zurgo Bellstriker 1 Lightning Berserker 4 Thunderbreak Regent 2 Aviricious Dragon Burn 12 4 Fiery Temper 4 Draconic Roar 4 Exquisite Firecraft Draw 4 4 ...

dauntless268

How do you feel about Looming Spires? Just noted that your deck runs lots of 1 drops and no 2 drop besides Abbot - maybe worth the inclusion? On RB Dragon Burn Midrange, it's still one of my favorite brews. It's one of those builds which with every tweak becomes ever more controlling (add sweepers, ...

dauntless268

For the love of red! :flame: Tested the deck quite extensively, results so at ok not great (a little bit better than 50/50 I would say). Agree with LaZer that the combination of 1-Drops, Dragons and Burn is what gives the deck it's flavor. Here's my thoughts on some of the cards: 1-drops in general ...

dauntless268

Well done

Given that you have a good chance to pitch excess lands to Neonate, I would think 23 lands is fine.
With 23 lands, I would consider running a go big plan with Dark-Dwellers in the side...

dauntless268

Respect for holding up the (red) fort, MDU. Some questions on your obviously now more advanced understanding of the format for red decks: - why exactly has RB turned out to be terrible? - why has the entire madness mechanic turned out to be terrible? - given that and the lack of burn, what makes you...

dauntless268

Playing Jeskai online for a few days now and it seems strong. I've tried with and without Rabble and not sure yet. Hushwing Gryff could be an interesting alternative, I think. I like Sarkhan as a mirror tech for the SB. Most intrigued by the fact that all the core cards are KTK or later, so the deck...

dauntless268

I would think that in a Standard RDW list, maindecking 1-2 Roast is doing a lot to improve the Abzan Matchup while not exactly being terrible against everything else except control which is a decent matchup anyways.

dauntless268

Purp, wouldn't Firedancer or Eidolon (if we have it) be a reasonable SB Choice against Rally decks? On The Control MU, I noticed most of you have dropped Eidolon from your board. Against real control decks, it looks like you would have very few cards to bring in (in your list Purp, you would almost ...

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Purp, I've seen a rather varied mix of control on Magic online decks, including Esper Dragons and creatureless ones. I agree that Swiftspear is a better Goblin Guide in this deck, but how good is Berserker as a 1 drop? It gets effectively blocked by tokens, Wayfinder and Walker, so as much as I'd li...

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Here's where I am at the moment: Creatures 16 4 Swiftspear 2 Lightning berserker 2 Zurgo 4 Valley Dasher 4 Abbot of the Keral Keep Spells 23 4 Stoke the Flames 4 Exquisite Firecraft 4 Atarka's Command 4 Lightning strike 4 Searing blood 3 Wild slash Lands 21 11 Mountain 4 Wooded Foothills 3 Mana Conf...

dauntless268

Well done MDU, good to get some MTGO testing results in. It seems Searing Blood is very well positioned in the current meta, with even the control decks running targets such as Hangarback Walker and Satyr Wayfinder. Should we up the count by one, maybe at the expense of the fourth outburst? I think ...

dauntless268

My hunch would be yes, because they don't know what you have and may not want to waste an entire turn removing it if you can bring it back for a single red mana...

dauntless268

Been playing with hangerback walker a lot today, seems insanely strong and can slot into quite a few decks. Could easily turn on shrapnel blasts as well if we wanted to move in that direction. Have you guys tried it at all? Have a look at the Thopter Burn Idea in next thread, Not a Robot, and tell ...

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LP what is your thinking behind only including 3 Phoenix? The card seems so strong and as a curve-topper...

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The more all of the flipwalkers (except Liliana) see play, the better searing blood will become. At the moment it looks like we're heading this way, at least with Jace and Nissa. I still like MJ because it helps set up your next turn(s) - which especially in the mid game is so important for a red de...

dauntless268

Nice list, Purp!

One question to you both: Would you SB in Outpost Siege vs Abzan? When I last played the deck, even the Abzan Control lists had a number of Dromoka's Command in their MD and/or SB. Seems like pretty high risk...

EDIT: bad card or not, but MJ is quite cool with Abbott...

dauntless268

A ton of Abzan Control at SCG this past weekend... This? Lands 23 2 Darksteel Citadel 4 Temple of Abandon 4 Wooded Foothills 2 Rugged Highlands 1 Forest 10 Mountain Creatures 15 4 Monastery Swiftspear 4 Hangarback Walker 4 Thopter Engineer 3 Pia and Kiran Nalaar Burn 22 4 Wild Slash 4 Lightning Stri...

dauntless268

According to Frank Karsten it should be 20. 3 Citadel also "feels" most correct as the risk of drawing double Citadel early in the game (which would be awkward) is much lower that way. Darksteel Citadel is certainly no Mutavault in this deck, so the rewards don't outweigh the risks.

dauntless268

Something from the brewing kitchen (thanks to MDU and LaZerBurn for help and feedback - Note we are all MTGO players, so this is all based on theorycrafting for until July 27 :p). Lands 23 20 Mountain 3 Darksteel Citadel Creatures 15 4 Monastery Swiftspear 4 Hangarback Walker 4 Thopter Engineer 3 Pi...

dauntless268

Revisit this deck now that we have Hangarback Marauder and Merciless Executioner 5-8?

dauntless268

Here's a link to a podcast & typed up SB plan for the Pro Tour winning decklist. http://mtgcast.com/mtgcast-podcast-shows/active-podcast-shows/red-deck-podcast/red-deck-podcast-4-sideing-with-the-underdog LaZer is piloting the deck very well (as I had to experience myself in a couple of test mat...

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Current version (3-0 in SE today) [deck]Creatures: 4 Foundry Street Denizen 4 Monastery Swiftspear 3 Zurgo Bellstriker 3 Lightning Berserker 2 Goblin Rabblemaster Spells: 1 Become Immense 4 Atarka's Command 4 Lightning Strike 3 Wild Slash 4 Stoke the Flames 4 Hordeling Outburst 4 Dragon Fodder Lands...

dauntless268

One is getting used to it, I guess...

http://magic.wizards.com/en/events/cove ... 2015-05-10

dauntless268

Interesting. I guess in such a case I would automatically gravitate towards a 23 land deck with 2 SBD which somehow runs Draconic Roar in the side. But I admit this would be a different deck.....

dauntless268

I don't think you're controlling them. In eg Abzan midrange MU Roast is more tempo than control. Don't forgot we have a lot of haste creatures on our deck.

Courser is a hell of a Card against us and Roast is a good answer to that one as well.

EDIT: it's called Abzan, these days...

dauntless268

@ MDU I do think you maybe a Temple off with 7 green cards in your deck Regarding Vaultbreaker, I was also excited in the beginning but found it lackluster rather soon I've tried the Dragon as well but came to the conclusion that he's not worth it. At worst, he was either roasting in my hand or a ve...

dauntless268

The list is very tight with few flex slots. The 3-drop spot is crowded and people rather run that extra Outburst or Rabble. Become Immense fulfills a similar role but does a better job in terms of damage output and versatility

dauntless268

@ LP One of the issues I had in testing the Jund Build was that in the matches where you bring in self-inflicted wound, I want access to it as early as t2, which with the manabase is far from guaranteed. Have you experienced the same? I also don't like the Llanowar Wastes at all. Guess I wouldn't mi...

dauntless268

@MDU Welcome back! Deck runs well online, despite it being quite common and everyone kind of expecting it. At 20 lands you still get to keep speculative hands at times and there are certainly decks that can have draws you can't beat, no matter what you have or play. If you can live with those two dr...

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Current 75 [deck]Creatures: 4 Foundry Street Denizen 4 Monastery Swiftspear 4 Goblin Rabblemaster 2 Zurgo Bellstriker 2 Lightning Berserker Spells: 1 Become Immense 4 Atarka's Command 4 Lightning Strike 4 Wild Slash 4 Stoke the Flames 4 Dragon Fodder 3 Hordeling Outburst Lands: 1 Forest 3 Temple of ...

dauntless268

LP, I arrived at a very similar version as yours after a lot of testing & talking with LaZer online [deck]Creatures: 2 Zurgo Bellstriker 4 Foundry Street Denizen 4 Monastery Swiftspear 2 Lightning Berseker 4 Goblin Rabblemaster Spells: 1 Become Immense 4 Atarka's Command 4 Lightning Strike 4 Wil...

dauntless268

Josh, I guess you mean that we should only play red decks that exploit Outpost Siege? Can see where you're coming from, but I still love me a +1 from a Chandra in a traditional RDW for its falter effect.

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