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Posted: **Sun Oct 13, 2013 5:04 am**

Why would you assume that? Theres an example on page one so all they would have to do is falseclaim.

Not many games have safeclaims

Posted: **Sun Oct 13, 2013 5:21 am**

Two people I was scumreading popped up with decent claims.

Now, I know I'm not fantastic at mafia, but I don't think I'd be wrong twice in a row.

Plus imopen2 is just pinging my scumdar so very, very hard.

Every game I've played with more than nine players has had scum safeclaims.

I suppose whether one of them safeclaiming or just falseclaiming rather well is moot. The fact is, I find it hard to believe there wasn't a scum in either of them.

Posted: **Sun Oct 13, 2013 5:56 am**

Either way its day 1 and I don't like the idea of lynching a cop. The mafia will have to deal with someone tonight and this will show real alignment information

Posted: **Sun Oct 13, 2013 6:35 am**

witch should watch imopen and we can discuss imopen's target.

Posted: **Sun Oct 13, 2013 6:36 am**

Two people I was scumreading popped up with decent claims.

Now, I know I'm not fantastic at mafia, but I don't think I'd be wrong twice in a row.

Plus imopen2 is just pinging my scumdar so very, very hard.

Every game I've played with more than nine players has had scum safeclaims.

I suppose whether one of them safeclaiming or just falseclaiming rather well is moot. The fact is, I find it hard to believe there wasn't a scum in either of them.

Posted: **Sun Oct 13, 2013 7:10 am**

Either way its day 1 and I don't like the idea of lynching a cop. The mafia will have to deal with someone tonight and this will show real alignment information

Fair enough.

Unvote: imopen2
Vote: DroppinSuga

Make with the sweettalk, baby.

Posted: **Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:12 am**

Hm.

Either way its day 1 and I don't like the idea of lynching a cop. The mafia will have to deal with someone tonight and this will show real alignment information

The bolded. Explain to me what exactly you mean, please.

Posted: **Sun Oct 13, 2013 12:29 pm**

So, the plan is to votehop between everyone and get everyone to claim their role already in day 1?

That seems an awesome plan. But certainly not for the town imo

Posted: **Sun Oct 13, 2013 12:47 pm**

So, the plan is to votehop between everyone and get everyone to claim their role already in day 1?

That seems an awesome plan. But certainly not for the town imo

Posted: **Sun Oct 13, 2013 2:02 pm**

Hm.

Either way its day 1 and I don't like the idea of lynching a cop. The mafia will have to deal with someone tonight and this will show real alignment information
The bolded. Explain to me what exactly you mean, please.

When someone is presumably killed by the nightkill we will know a townies alignment, making interesting connections

Posted: **Sun Oct 13, 2013 2:03 pm**

witch should watch imopen and we can discuss imopen's target.

Yup, what I said

Posted: **Sun Oct 13, 2013 2:54 pm**

I am more than willing to discuss who I target tonight. I'm guessing I will be NK'd but it's still worth discussing.

Posted: **Sun Oct 13, 2013 2:58 pm**

unvote imopen2

witch should watch imopen and we can discuss imopen's target.

Reread witch's claim

Posted: **Sun Oct 13, 2013 3:15 pm**

You're not going to get big posts out of me since that's not my style. But, this day 1 seems terribly geared towards the scum since people are basically wagonjumping and trying to get claims out of as many people as possible. I'm not seeing the town motivation there at all.

I'm not going to put my vote on Kaze, but at this point, he's the one leading the charge on all these claims, and I'm failing to see how that is making it any easier for the town?

Posted: **Sun Oct 13, 2013 3:19 pm**

I'm Simon Wales, a pro rapture peeping tom. I was one of the main architects of Rapture and despite doubts my brother and I managed to build a city on the bottom of the see. Eventually I became a man of god and have a slight religious following, even if splicing has a made me a bit paranoid of others.

Once per night I can peep in another person's window to see if they're praying or not. If someone targets them I am notified about it.

Posted: **Sun Oct 13, 2013 3:20 pm**

unless I'm reading that horrendously wrong, Witch is just a watcher, making imopen the best target for him.

Posted: **Sun Oct 13, 2013 3:23 pm**

I would agree. It could keep the scum off my back..

Posted: **Sun Oct 13, 2013 3:32 pm**

I misunderstood what you were saying yanni.

I agree, imopen should be watched so we can protect him. Who should we target with the coppings?

@suga: in lieu of a big summary post, mind giving a pbpa on yanni? Or discuss any of your other scum reads?

Posted: **Sun Oct 13, 2013 3:33 pm**

Oh, imopen, how do you receive your results?

Posted: **Sun Oct 13, 2013 3:36 pm**

Yanni's play in the beginning of the game was pinging me due to his popping in and jumping on a wagon. But now that's he contributing more than just a vote, his scum level has dropped to a minimum. I'd put money on Yanni being town.

Kaze, on the other hand, is my main scum read at this point in time. I thought it was play style, but this game his urge to get as many claims as possible on D1 is REALLY scummy. I see no reason for a townie to want this many claims on D1. If he's not scum, I'd like to see him ease up a bit before he gives the scumteam a roadmap for the whole game.

Posted: **Sun Oct 13, 2013 3:43 pm**

As far as i can tell, suga, your vote is still on yanni.

Posted: **Sun Oct 13, 2013 3:54 pm**

unless I'm reading that horrendously wrong, Witch is just a watcher, making imopen the best target for him.

Can I get this straight?

A watcher see's who targets the target, but not who the target targets?

Posted: **Sun Oct 13, 2013 4:00 pm**

Correct

Posted: **Sun Oct 13, 2013 4:07 pm**

unless I'm reading that horrendously wrong, Witch is just a watcher, making imopen the best target for him.
Can I get this straight?

A watcher see's who targets the target, but not who the target targets?

Correct. If witch uses it on me, and a scum tries to NK me, or someone vigs me, then he will know.

Posted: **Sun Oct 13, 2013 4:10 pm**

Oh, imopen, how do you receive your results?

Well I haven't received any yet so I'm not positive but it says I can determine their alignment so I assume just scum/town would be the result. Maybe neutral or something if their are other alignments..?

Posted: **Sun Oct 13, 2013 4:27 pm**

So, let me get this straight: we can have imopen "check" somebody (i.e. Kaze) to see his alignment, while we have witch targeting him in order to know, if mafia NKs him, who murdered him, right?
Things are a little more complicated than this but I believe that there are some nice things that can be done with that combo - I'm not going to build too much on that though, for the moment - but I'd stop asking for claims at the moment.

I just want to remember everyone that this game features an amount of ZERO vanilla characters, so I'd prefer scum players to not know too much.
They now know two PRs that can be an hassle to them AND that they could have some EXTREMELY difficult time interacting with them, giving them other infos could be an error.

Posted: **Sun Oct 13, 2013 5:23 pm**

basically if imopen dies we know who did it because witch is watching and if witch gets killed or anyone else we get an alignment if these 2 players are town and everything goes as planned

Posted: **Sun Oct 13, 2013 5:24 pm**

It may be time for early town/scum lists, popcorn order of course. I'd personally like scumbag and lurkers first

Posted: **Sun Oct 13, 2013 5:36 pm**

If pressure comes down to me I'll claim to avoid being lynched, but I'll hereby state that I'm not thrilled at all about these chain claims, specially for a game without vanillas

Posted: **Sun Oct 13, 2013 5:55 pm**

I'm in favor of scum town lists, highest instances of scum gets targeted by imopen2.

Posted: **Sun Oct 13, 2013 6:20 pm**

I'd like to see a post from LMD, personally.

Posted: **Sun Oct 13, 2013 8:10 pm**

This isn't all the votes, but it is the first few.

Red=OMGUS
colored are wagons that led to a claim.
tell me if you see anything

Posted: **Sun Oct 13, 2013 8:11 pm**

that pic extends off the side, there's more there if you view it in a new tab.

Posted: **Sun Oct 13, 2013 8:21 pm**

I'd like to see a scum/town list from Red scumabg or LMD then popcorn until we finish.

Posted: **Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:57 pm**

Posted: **Sun Oct 13, 2013 10:37 pm**

Posted: **Sun Oct 13, 2013 11:27 pm**

An audio diary begins to play across the Rapture intercom: "On the surface, the Parasite expects the doctor to heal them for free, the farmer to feed them out of charity. How little they differ from the pervert who prowls the streets, looking for a victim he can ravish for his grotesque amusement."

Vote Count #3 -

Kazekirimaru (1) – imopen2
imopen2 (1) – WitchHunt
DroppinSuga (1) – Kazekirimaru
Yannaria (1) - DroppinSuga

Not voting (8): Lord_McDonalds, RedNihilist, Colonel_Khaddafi, TubeHunter, Captain_Murphy, (G_R), Yannaria, rezombad

Prods have been sent to WitchHunt and Lord_McDonalds.

Posted: **Mon Oct 14, 2013 1:08 am**

Well. I'm trying to decide how much the flavor of characters are relevant to the actual Mafia game. I know Sander Cohen was bat shit crazy and just wanted to do his own thing in the end, but I don't want the prior knowledge of that being what controls my views on imopen. He came off as primarily scummy to me in the beginning, but we'll just see where that train goes.

So in the mean time, Unvote: imopen2, not really feeling it as much as I used to.

Posted: **Mon Oct 14, 2013 2:19 am**

You're not going to get big posts out of me since that's not my style. But, this day 1 seems terribly geared towards the scum since people are basically wagonjumping and trying to get claims out of as many people as possible. I'm not seeing the town motivation there at all.

I'm not going to put my vote on Kaze, but at this point, he's the one leading the charge on all these claims, and I'm failing to see how that is making it any easier for the town?

Well i have 0 content from you. You have barely posted anything and when you do its mostly active lurking.

Posted: **Mon Oct 14, 2013 2:29 am**

This isn't all the votes, but it is the first few.

Red=OMGUS
colored are wagons that led to a claim.
tell me if you see anything

The early red votes

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