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Postby Self Medicated » Wed Dec 04, 2013 6:24 pm

Concerning Todd Anderson. This is the first time I've read his "infamous" article. It sounds like he might have been in a deep depression plus who knows what else was wrong with him. Nobody really knows what he is dealing with except he and his wife. I don't feel sorry for the guy, but it sounds like he was really down on himself, and that can be a tough hole to dig yourself out of. I should know, I have to deal with depression and anxiety every day. Sometimes your behavior can come off as lazy. Truth is, you're too petrified to make any big life decisions. And when you have to choose between doing the thing that you love and working a dead end job because you don't have the education for anything else, well, that really isn't a choice at all.

Then again, I can also see how some view him as a lazy crybaby. Right after his wife tells him to follow his dreams, he is immediately happy. At least, he says
as much in his article. This might also be a sign that he is suffering from manic/depression. I've observed a few friends and family that are like this, and it's a dramatic switch from being incredibly happy one day to acting like the sky is falling the next day. I don't want to justify his behavior, but just remind people that this article was just a glimpse into his life. Like an iceberg, there's probably much more beneath the surface that we can't see.

In the end, nothing he does affects any part of my life, so I don't really care what he does with his.
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Postby hamfactorial » Wed Dec 04, 2013 6:31 pm

SM:

We don't have room for that sort of calm, rational analysis here in FoS!

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Postby Self Medicated » Wed Dec 04, 2013 6:32 pm

SM:

We don't have room for that sort of calm, rational analysis here in FoS!
Dude, me being viewed as calm and rational is pretty fucking scary. :p
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Postby hamfactorial » Wed Dec 04, 2013 6:33 pm

:ape: me red mage, no like logic!

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Postby Self Medicated » Wed Dec 04, 2013 6:34 pm

ATTICA! ATTICA! ATTICA!

We gonna burn this mothafucka to the ground!
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Postby Wraith223 » Wed Dec 04, 2013 6:39 pm

Concerning Todd Anderson. This is the first time I've read his "infamous" article. It sounds like he might have been in a deep depression plus who knows what else was wrong with him. Nobody really knows what he is dealing with except he and his wife. I don't feel sorry for the guy, but it sounds like he was really down on himself, and that can be a tough hole to dig yourself out of. I should know, I have to deal with depression and anxiety every day. Sometimes your behavior can come off as lazy. Truth is, you're too petrified to make any big life decisions. And when you have to choose between doing the thing that you love and working a dead end job because you don't have the education for anything else, well, that really isn't a
choice at all.

Then again, I can also see how some view him as a lazy crybaby. Right after his wife tells him to follow his dreams, he is immediately happy. At least, he says as much in his article. This might also be a sign that he is suffering from manic/depression. I've observed a few friends and family that are like this, and it's a dramatic switch from being incredibly happy one day to acting like the sky is falling the next day. I don't want to justify his behavior, but just remind people that this article was just a glimpse into his life. Like an iceberg, there's probably much more beneath the surface that we can't see.

In the end, nothing he does affects any part of my life, so I don't really care what he does with his.
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Damn, that read with clarity worthy of being a response from Dr. Sweets on Bones. I just thought his article made other top players give Todd the Gibbs stare.
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Postby Wraith223 » Wed Dec 04, 2013 6:42 pm

:ape: me red mage, no like logic!
There is a specific logic in red mages.

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Your life count. BURN!

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Postby Self Medicated » Wed Dec 04, 2013 6:43 pm

I just thought his article made other top players give Todd the Gibbs stare.
I'm a fan of the Gibbs stare. And as my children can attest, I'm also a fan of the Gibbs slap. :smileup:
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Postby Wraith223 » Wed Dec 04, 2013 6:50 pm

I just thought his article made other top players give Todd the Gibbs stare.
I'm a fan of the Gibbs stare. And as my children can attest, I'm also a fan of the Gibbs slap. :smileup:
You must be the Gibbs in a family full of Dinozzo's.
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Postby Self Medicated » Wed Dec 04, 2013 7:10 pm

I just thought his article made other top players give Todd the Gibbs stare.
I'm a fan of the Gibbs stare. And as my children can attest, I'm also a fan of the Gibbs slap. :smileup:
You must be the Gibbs in a family full of Dinozzo's.
If anything, I
would be Dinozzo. But my kids are a couple of probies.
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Postby Wraith223 » Wed Dec 04, 2013 7:40 pm

I just thought his article made other top players give Todd the Gibbs stare.
I'm a fan of the Gibbs stare. And as my children can attest, I'm also a fan of the Gibbs slap.
You must be the Gibbs in a family full of Dinozzo's.
If anything, I would be Dinozzo. But my kids are a couple of probies.
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Postby Jack » Wed Dec 04, 2013 8:12 pm

Z, could you copy your posts about blue control over to the pauper forums? They seem insightful, and I may want to build the deck, and if that's the case, I want the resources for a starting point to be somewhere more convenient than page 630 of the clan thread.
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Postby Link » Wed Dec 04, 2013 8:37 pm

my brother spent 2 years in TSA, Wraith, its not where you wanna be at.

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Postby Elricity » Wed Dec 04, 2013 8:56 pm

Concerning Todd Anderson. This is the first time I've read his "infamous" article. It sounds like he might have been in a deep depression plus who knows what else was wrong with him. Nobody really knows what he is dealing with except he and his wife. I don't feel sorry for the guy, but it sounds like he was really down on himself, and that can be a tough hole to dig yourself out of. I should know, I have to deal with depression and anxiety every day. Sometimes your behavior can come off as lazy. Truth is, you're too petrified to make any big life decisions. And when you have to choose between doing the thing that you love and working a dead end job because you don't have the education for anything else, well, that really isn't a choice at all.


Then again, I can also see how some view him as a lazy crybaby. Right after his wife tells him to follow his dreams, he is immediately happy. At least, he says as much in his article. This might also be a sign that he is suffering from manic/depression. I've observed a few friends and family that are like this, and it's a dramatic switch from being incredibly happy one day to acting like the sky is falling the next day. I don't want to justify his behavior, but just remind people that this article was just a glimpse into his life. Like an iceberg, there's probably much more beneath the surface that we can't see.

In the end, nothing he does affects any part of my life, so I don't really care what he does with his.
It's tempting to chalk it up to depression but I'll give you two hints what was really going on with him then.

Hint 1: Reread the article and specifically look for an occasion that he is concerned about his wife's feelings independent of how they relate
to himself. Think of it like an Anderson Bechdel test.

Hint 2:
I wanted her to be happy but there was one problem:

I wasn't happy.

And the words came to life all flowing forth at once like an avalanche of admission. I wanted to be free from the confines of a crappy job that did nothing but hold me back. I wanted a chance to prove to myself and to everyone else that I[/
color] could make it as a Magic player and writer. I wanted her to believe in me and to just give me a chance.

I wanted her to be proud of me.


It's annoying people because they suspect they're being pitched to by someone that is confused what he is selling. Sorry, reading statements like his became sort of a hobby of mine.

My opinion
He wants to be seen as a pro but doesn't want to go through the effort to BECOME a pro. Whining is so much easier to self-identify with and enact than going through the hard effort of shit jobs, writing classes, and whatever else it takes to be a
big name. If he changes, he won't fit his image anymore which scares him. Much easier to make people, including himself, pretend his fake image is real. Particularly his wife whose role in his life is built around sustaining that.

I have no idea what his actual status is in the community but it's clear he didn't think he'd obtained it.

You want to see him actually get depressed, suicidal, or homicidal? Watch his wife tell him that he'll never be a pro. Getting her to say that she was crushing his dreams? Fuckin' catnip. It's a soap opera with himself as the star.
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Postby Wraith223 » Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:03 pm

my brother spent 2 years in TSA, Wraith, its not where you wanna be at.

The job I applied for was chief inspector for Dallas airports and surrounding little ones. It requires a Masters to apply for :D

I have heard the complaints and know many of them are true (Houston TSA :no2: ). Dallas is much better and the job is what you make it. TSA has to be better than Border Patrol as at least I don't have to shop at IGA's or pure shit grocery stores on the Border. (I really hate IGA and wish folks new how bad they get sqrewed when shopping there. They buy trash quality foods and
sell them at high prices cause they are the only game in town. I would pay for quality products instead of shit set to expire today or tamorrow)

Regardless, I don't think either will happen as no responses have been seen in a year. WTF? Dallas PD is looking really good right now.
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Postby windstrider » Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:14 pm

That article reads like the written equivalent of bullshit mixed with treacle.
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Postby Self Medicated » Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:15 pm

Concerning Todd Anderson. This is the first time I've read his "infamous" article. It sounds like he might have been in a deep depression plus who knows what else was wrong with him. Nobody really knows what he is dealing with except he and his wife. I don't feel sorry for the guy, but it sounds like he was really down on himself, and that can be a tough hole to dig yourself out of. I should know, I have to deal with depression and anxiety every day. Sometimes your behavior can come off as lazy. Truth is, you're too petrified to make any big life decisions. And when you have
to choose between doing the thing that you love and working a dead end job because you don't have the education for anything else, well, that really isn't a choice at all.

Then again, I can also see how some view him as a lazy crybaby. Right after his wife tells him to follow his dreams, he is immediately happy. At least, he says as much in his article. This might also be a sign that he is suffering from manic/depression. I've observed a few friends and family that are like this, and it's a dramatic switch from being incredibly happy one day to acting like the sky is falling the next day. I don't want to justify his behavior, but just remind people that this article was just a glimpse into his life. Like an iceberg, there's probably much more beneath the surface that we can't see.

In the end, nothing he does affects any part of my life, so I don't really care what he does with his.
It's tempting to chalk it up to depression but I'll give you two hints what was really
going on with him then.

Hint 1: Reread the article and specifically look for an occasion that he is concerned about his wife's feelings independent of how they relate to himself. Think of it like an Anderson Bechdel test.

Hint 2:
I wanted her to be happy but there was one problem:

I wasn't happy.

And the words came to life all flowing forth at once like an avalanche of admission. I wanted to be free from the confines of a crappy job that did nothing but hold me back. I wanted a chance to prove to myself
and to everyone else that I could make it as a Magic player and writer. I wanted her to believe in me and to just give me a chance.

I wanted her to be proud of me.


It's annoying people because they suspect they're being pitched to by someone that is confused what he is selling. Sorry, reading statements like his became sort of a hobby of mine.
My opinion
He wants to be seen as a pro but doesn't want to go through the effort to BECOME a pro. Whining is so much easier to self-identify with and enact than
going through the hard effort of shit jobs, writing classes, and whatever else it takes to be a big name. If he changes, he won't fit his image anymore which scares him. Much easier to make people, including himself, pretend his fake image is real. Particularly his wife whose role in his life is built around sustaining that.

I have no idea what his actual status is in the community but it's clear he didn't think he'd obtained it.
No need to be sorry. Everyone sees things differently. I try to understand everyone's point of view, and that sometimes makes me a little too forgiving of their trespasses. My opinion is that I don't know the entire story, and it doesn't affect me, therefore I couldn't care less how he chooses to live. :)
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Postby Elricity » Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:15 pm

Ok, I'm done editing my post. I really should be working right now =p.

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Postby Self Medicated » Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:17 pm

Ok, I'm done editing my post. I really should be working right now =p.
Me too! lol
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Postby Elricity » Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:38 pm


No need to be sorry. Everyone sees things differently. I try to understand everyone's point of view, and that sometimes makes me a little too forgiving of their trespasses. My opinion is that I don't know the entire story, and it doesn't affect me, therefore I couldn't care less how he chooses to live. :)
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The neat trick with people like him is you don't have to know the entire story. You only need to know his "story" to know what you need to know about him. It wasn't an accident that he wrote an article for a MTG site and yet it read like a dollar romance novel.

He personally doesn't concern me but I go through these things because I plan to start having kids soon and I want to raise them to be on guard to these type of people. They aren't bad people but they do inadvertently destroy people by pushing those around them into being part of the B cast of their story. As long as you're only an extra in their story (the unnamed manager), they're harmless.

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Postby rcwraspy » Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:45 pm


No need to be sorry. Everyone sees things differently. I try to understand everyone's point of view, and that sometimes makes me a little too forgiving of their trespasses. My opinion is that I don't know the entire story, and it doesn't affect me, therefore I
couldn't care less how he chooses to live. :)
The neat trick with people like him is you don't have to know the entire story. You only need to know his "story" to know what you need to know about him. It wasn't an accident that he wrote an article for a MTG site and yet it read like a dollar romance novel.

He personally doesn't concern me but I go through these things because I plan to start having kids soon and I want to raise them to be on guard to these type of people. They aren't bad people but they do inadvertently destroy people by pushing those around them into being part of the B cast of their story. As long as you're only an extra in their story (the unnamed manager), they're harmless.
Elricity, what you're describing resonates VERY much.

My 2nd job in the company I'm working for was in the Customer Service department,
coordinating with the marketing departments so that the reps had information. I left that department to project manage a migration of our fulfillment systems. Toward the end of that, one of the employees in Customer Service, who I thought I was friends with, was able to get her manager fired. This manager was a fairly poor manager, everybody agreed, but Erin is the one who lead the charge with HR and the Senior Manager.

I ended up getting the nod to manage the group (as well as maintain my other duties - and all for the low price of no raise!). It turns out that the "poor manager" before me was definitely a poor people person, had mistreated some workers, but when it came to business decisions she made good decisions. I made similar ones, and Erin decided to get rid of me too. And she was more than half successful. I'm still at the same company, and making the same salary, but not in charge of that group any longer.

In the long run I benefited because I can write it off as a
lateral move and it's given me a much more flexible schedule to focus on starting Law School.

But DAMN I've never met a more self-centered or manipulative person in my life.
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Postby Wraith223 » Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:02 pm

Corruption Report today was :eyebrow:

Investigators must be starving as they can't tell pie from cookies. (If that was a shortbread cookie)

Also, bad shortbread cookies do exist. My local HEB can't bake to save their lives.

Real investigators eat Doughnuts! :viking:
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Postby Link » Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:10 pm

SM taking the high ground is pretty inspiring....

he spits dem truths.


Who gives a shit if Todds got an easy pass from his wife and get play magic all day? His life right.... as long as he takes care of himself so I don't have to pay for his medicare its straight

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Postby Purp » Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:19 pm

Todd is overweight, wears a terrible faux-hawk and doesn't know how to make his tie straight on Above the Curves. Why are yall typing so much about him.
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Postby redthirst » Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:21 pm

But does he look like a bitch?
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Originally posted by Dechs Kaison on MTGS
redthirst is redthirst, fifth Horseman of the Apocalypse. He was the leader of the Fires of Salvation, the only clan I'm aware of to get modded off the forums so hard they made their own forums.

Degenerate? Sure. Loudmouth? You bet. Law abiding? No ****ing way.

Great guy to have around? Hell yes.
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Postby Purp » Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:23 pm

Yes, he looks like a bitch.
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Postby Pendulum » Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:23 pm

Real investigators eat Doughnuts! :viking:
You know, I really want to let this one go, and as always I'm sorry for popping into the thread like this, but I've known too many people who worked for the Dallas PD to not suggest you should take the job with them after reading you make this statement.
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Postby redthirst » Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:25 pm

Then why don't you want to fuck him like a bitch, Purph?

Pendulum, you're one of the only non FoS members of this site I actually like.

Stop by anytime.
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Originally posted by Dechs Kaison on MTGS
redthirst is redthirst, fifth Horseman of the Apocalypse. He was the leader of the Fires of Salvation, the only clan I'm aware of to get modded off the forums so hard they made their own forums.

Degenerate? Sure. Loudmouth? You bet. Law abiding? No ****ing way.

Great guy to have around? Hell yes.
I love the D...

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Postby hamfactorial » Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:28 pm

SM taking the high ground is pretty inspiring....

he spits dem truths.


Who gives a shit if Todds got an easy pass from his wife and get play magic all day? His life right.... as long as he takes care of himself so I don't have to pay for his medicare its straight
In socialist USA, we all pay the price for Todd Anderson and his ilk. We reserve the right to shame publicly.

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Postby Wraith223 » Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:29 pm

More of a Bitches Bitch.
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Postby redthirst » Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:31 pm

We reserve the right to shame publicly.
Otherwise, why would we have a Shame Hole?
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Originally posted by Dechs Kaison on MTGS
redthirst is redthirst, fifth Horseman of the Apocalypse. He was the leader of the Fires of Salvation, the only clan I'm aware of to get modded off the forums so hard they made their own forums.

Degenerate? Sure. Loudmouth? You bet. Law abiding? No ****ing way.

Great guy to have around? Hell yes.
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Postby Wraith223 » Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:32 pm

Real investigators eat Doughnuts! :viking:
You know, I really want to let this one go, and as always I'm sorry for popping into the thread like this, but I've known too many people who worked for the Dallas PD to not suggest you should take the job with them after reading you make this statement.
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Postby redthirst » Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:34 pm

Same way I feel about Cocaine.
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redthirst is redthirst, fifth Horseman of the Apocalypse. He was the leader of the Fires of Salvation, the only clan I'm aware of to get modded off the forums so hard they made their own forums.

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Postby Wraith223 » Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:35 pm

"Some men get their kicks....from Cocaine". Blazing Saddles
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Postby DocLawless » Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:38 pm

I feel the same way about...

...actually, I got nothin'. Mornings can die in a fire.
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Postby Self Medicated » Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:45 pm

Mornings can die in a fire.
Like Paul Walker. Too soon?
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Postby Wraith223 » Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:47 pm

I feel the same way about...

...actually, I got nothin'. Mornings can die in a fire.
Your like my sister, non-functioning zombie till 10:30AM.
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Postby rcwraspy » Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:49 pm

Mornings can die in a fire.
Like Paul Walker. Too soon?
ouch.

Though I find it sadly ironic that the Fast and Furious actor died in a car wreck.
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Postby Wraith223 » Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:54 pm

Mornings can die in a fire.
Like Paul Walker. Too soon?
ouch.

Though I find it sadly ironic that the Fast and Furious actor died in a car wreck.
Kind of perfectly follows the old joke: What's better than Christopher Reeves? Christopher Walkin.
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Postby Self Medicated » Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:57 pm

Though I find it sadly ironic that the Fast and Furious actor died in a car wreck.
Right? My wife told me he died. I was like," shit, he was only 40ish. What happened?" Car crash. I thought she was joking.
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