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Postby Alex » Fri Nov 29, 2013 11:12 pm

Current standard blows. Thragtusk ruined the previously fair and fun Restoration Angel.

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Postby TubeHunter » Fri Nov 29, 2013 11:15 pm

I just really don't like mono blue devo and mono black, and mono red devo, and G/x Devo.

I just think I just hate devotion
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Postby TubeHunter » Fri Nov 29, 2013 11:20 pm

I just feel like outside of pyrowhite, this standard is just a big fucking "Do you have it?" game.
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Postby zemanjaski » Fri Nov 29, 2013 11:24 pm

Devotion is a pretty shitty mechanic yeah.
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Postby zemanjaski » Fri Nov 29, 2013 11:25 pm

Wait, Alex you're trying to suggest Restoration Angel was ever fair? Fuck off.
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Postby Alex » Fri Nov 29, 2013 11:27 pm

I played her in fair ways in my deck. :shrug:

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Postby Alex » Fri Nov 29, 2013 11:28 pm

Granted the whole deck played fair Magic. I miss it.

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Postby DroppinSuga » Fri Nov 29, 2013 11:30 pm

I'd play Standard if I could afford to get all the cards for Esper. Otherwise, I find this format pretty boring. I play Mono red devotion if I play Standard though.
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Postby TubeHunter » Fri Nov 29, 2013 11:35 pm

The thing is, I've had a few of my friends say they love playing mono blue. I just don't understand it. This is coming from players who said they would never play mono red because it is mindless.
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Postby TubeHunter » Fri Nov 29, 2013 11:53 pm

I think i might be getting cabin fever
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Postby zemanjaski » Fri Nov 29, 2013 11:55 pm

3/4 flash flier for 3W is not inherently fair, before we consider the blink

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Postby DarthStabber » Sat Nov 30, 2013 12:27 am

Devotion is a pretty shitty mechanic yeah.
Devotion's not a bad mechanic, especially compared to chroma. I do think it might have pushed a little too hard, as in it seems like they planned on people not building around it super hard and then every one did since it is way easy to build around. On the bright side it makes monocolor decks a thing which, other than RDW, isn't doable competitively all that often. Depending on what happens in botg the solution might be right around the corner. Besides I won't hear of any one saying anything bad about fanatic of mogis even if it is in a very round about way.
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Postby LP, of the Fires » Sat Nov 30, 2013 12:35 am

I liked last standard more then this standard. Granted, I like this standard as well, but I really appreciated decks like Jund and UWR flash.

This standard has slowly grown less interesting as time goes on. U devotion has grown on me though after playing Jonny Spike with it the other night. Thassa an Cyclonic rift are good magic cards.
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Postby RaidaTheBlade » Sat Nov 30, 2013 12:39 am

Honestly, I like the current standard for the most part. There's a wide range of competitive decks that have a chance to win...

Well, technically... Last weekend made a convincing argument that that period is over ;-;
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Postby F.I.A » Sat Nov 30, 2013 1:06 am

I don't know. I'd rather stare down at anything but a green 5/3 and its girlfriend.

And yes, it's great that we no longer have to worry about 3/4 coming down at us at 4. There's Advent of the Wurm, but you cannot really splash that one.
The thing is, I've had a few of my friends say they love playing mono blue. I just don't understand it. This is coming from players who said they would never play mono red because it is mindless.
Because any other colors other than red requires some strategies, and therefore not mindless. Yes, that includes what creatures/manadorks to play out in green.
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Postby RaidaTheBlade » Sat Nov 30, 2013 1:34 am

So, just saw a rdw using wild ricochet...
The game I saw he actually used it vs a maze's end deck, to stop riot control.

First question is if that actually works since riot control doesn't say target e.e

Second question is if that's a legitimate sideboard card. It would make control even easier, though it would lack the usefulness against mono-black, which is a big part of why skullcracks good...
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Postby Kazekirimaru » Sat Nov 30, 2013 1:35 am

If it doesn't target, it can't be retargeted.

At least, that's my understanding.
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Postby Yarpus » Sat Nov 30, 2013 1:40 am

Bill Hicks is the man.
People say to me, "Oh, Bill, leave them alone. They're so good, and so clean-cut, and they're such a good image for the children." Fuck that! When did mediocrity and banality become a good image for your children? I want my children listening to people who fucking ROCKED! I don't care if they died in pools of their own vomit! I want someone who plays from his fucking heart! "Mommy, the man Bill told me to listen to has a blood bubble on his nose." SHUT UP AND LISTEN TO HIM PLAY!

Fuck that! I want my rockstars dead! I want 'em to fucking play with one hand and put a gun in their other fucking hand and go, "I hope you enjoyed the show. Bang!" Yes! Yes! Play from your fucking heart!...
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Postby Alex » Sat Nov 30, 2013 1:48 am

3/4 flash flier for 3W is not inherently fair, before we consider the blink

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A 3/4 flier with haste (which you sometimes played it as) wasn't that insane at 3W considering the power creep on creatures is super steep lately. The last time a flash flying creature was that good was Vendillion Clique, and even that is sometimes a total dud.

The blink was also mediocre sometimes. You could play the card fairly and simply have it be a guy+combat trick, which isn't that oppressive until you introduce ways to go over the top with the blink.

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Postby Alex » Sat Nov 30, 2013 1:50 am

Just saying, Restoration Angel doesn't even see that much Modern play, and the card has way more things it can abuse in that format. The only deck that even really plays it is the Finkel/Kibler UWR, but most UWR players have moved away from that type of deck.

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Postby F.I.A » Sat Nov 30, 2013 2:04 am

[quote="[url=viewtopic.php?p=153263#p153263:r7c87vsz]RaidaTheBlade » Sat Nov 30, 2013 1:34 am[/url:r7c87vsz]":r7c87vsz]So, just saw a rdw using [card:r7c87vsz]wild ricochet[/card:r7c87vsz]...
The game I saw he actually used it vs a maze's end deck, to stop riot control.

First question is if that actually works since riot control doesn't say target e.e

Second question is if that's a legitimate sideboard card. It would make control even easier, though it would lack the usefulness against mono-black, which is a big part of why skullcracks good...[/quote:r7c87vsz]

Since it does have a target, you cannot change target for the spell. You can, however, copy an instance of that spell for yourself.

The problem with [card:r7c87vsz]Wild Ricochet[/card:r7c87vsz] is that the cards it can hit is too narrow to justify the cost.
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Postby DarthStabber » Sat Nov 30, 2013 2:55 am

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Postby DocLawless » Sat Nov 30, 2013 3:01 am

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Postby DarthStabber » Sat Nov 30, 2013 3:16 am

Bill Hicks is the man.
People say to me, "Oh, Bill, leave them alone. They're so good, and so clean-cut, and they're such a good image for the children." Fuck that! When did mediocrity and banality become a good image for your children? I want my children listening to people who fucking ROCKED! I don't care if they died in pools of their own vomit! I want someone who plays from his fucking heart! "Mommy, the man Bill told me to listen to has a blood bubble on his nose." SHUT UP AND LISTEN TO HIM PLAY!

Fuck that! I want my rockstars dead! I want 'em to fucking play with one hand and put a gun in their other fucking hand and go, "I hope you enjoyed the show. Bang!" Yes! Yes! Play from your fucking heart!...
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Oh yeah, bill hicks is fucking awesome.

You never hear about the good consequences of drugs on the news. Just once I want to hear a news story that goes " Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration,that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively,there is no such thing as death,life is only a dream,and we are the imagination of ourselves. Heres Tom with the Weather."
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Postby RaidaTheBlade » Sat Nov 30, 2013 3:23 am

So, currently 3-0 at fnm. First round was a g/b gorgons/hydras weirdness that i 2-0'd, second was a w/u white weenie that had gotten to winners bracket cause of a bye (2-0), and then third was a rdw build that I managed to get 2-1.
It got me game 2 by a few life, but still fairly happy overall.
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Postby DarthStabber » Sat Nov 30, 2013 3:32 am

So when men proposes to a woman he gives her a diamond, if the woman proposes to the man does she have to get him a dog?
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Postby Kazekirimaru » Sat Nov 30, 2013 3:51 am

Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration,that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively,there is no such thing as death,life is only a dream,and we are the imagination of ourselves. Heres Tom with the Weather."
Oh God flashbacks

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Postby DarthStabber » Sat Nov 30, 2013 4:17 am

So I brought this up before, ptq tomorrow in St. Louis (well st. louis county, not the city proper), anyone else going, or am I representin' alone?
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Postby DocLawless » Sat Nov 30, 2013 4:59 am

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Postby RaidaTheBlade » Sat Nov 30, 2013 5:08 am

Alright, fifth and final round is done. Last 0-2 to a mono-u devotion.
Puts me at 4-1, and I was the only 4-0 going into round 5, so its all on the breakers now.

But I made a few play mistakes that I think hurt me more then I thought they would, but overall, I was close to stabilizing both games when he got me. It was by just a few turns ;-;

It didn't help that game 2 he played 3 masters and I never saw a single chained or last breath. Did manage to overload mortars twice, which helped delay it e.e
Was brutal e.e
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Postby Kazekirimaru » Sat Nov 30, 2013 5:18 am

is it friday or something?

fuck i need a calendar.
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Postby Helios » Sat Nov 30, 2013 5:23 am

Yes Kaze, today is Friday. Believe it or not.

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This may blow your mind but its not Friday everywhere :). (Its Saturday downunder)
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Postby DocLawless » Sat Nov 30, 2013 5:47 am

I heard that it doesn't take as much fuel to launch a rocket into space when it's launched from Australia. That scientists simply untie the rocket from its launch pad and it falls into outer space, where it is then guided by its engines.

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Postby Kazekirimaru » Sat Nov 30, 2013 5:50 am

How does one meet people of the opposite gender?

It's been years since I've been single. I've forgotten how to female.

i'm being totally serious
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Postby TubeHunter » Sat Nov 30, 2013 5:59 am

I think i just chose what college I wanted to attend
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How does one meet people of the opposite gender?

It's been years since I've been single. I've forgotten how to female.

i'm being totally serious
Go up to them and politely say “My name is James Fazzolari, the best thing that hasn’t happened to you yet”
I would like to emphasize that you SHOULD NOT substitute your own name for mine, it’s a brand and it works
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Postby DocLawless » Sat Nov 30, 2013 6:22 am

Do you want to find a nice girl you can date or do you want to fuck a stripper? There may be plenty of fish in the sea, but those two swim in different waters and require very different lures.
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