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Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 9:33 pm
by Helios
all the curves!
all the FIRE!!!!!
Like a well-endowed redhead.
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 9:35 pm
by redthirst
Yeah, Khaos, you've got to do something really nice for your girl for providing you, me and thirst with sexysigs.
I already told him to strap on a Pringles can and give it to her good from me...
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 9:53 pm
by Yarpus
Funny thing.
Control: Elspeth, put 3 tokens.
You: Okay.
Control: 3 tokens.
You: Okay.
Control: 3 tokens.
You: Okay.
Control: 3 tokens.
You: Okay.
Control: Ultimate, swing.
You: Rakdos Charm, take 12 baby.
Never thought this mode is gonna get that relevant.
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 9:54 pm
by zemanjaski
For those with a control interest, it's all about UR. Thoughtflare and Counterflux are both really good currently.
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 9:59 pm
by LP, of the Fires
I'd rather play UWR
'Cause 'Merica.
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:04 pm
by Yarpus
Sad thing is, Chandra sucks in deck with counterspells.
But yea, I got totally hooked in when you said about UR Control. Not sure if Thoughtflare would be my card of choice - Steam Augury/Opportunity combo is fine. SA might not be the new FoF but it's worth trying out (even if it largely depends on your opponent in the wrong way).
Any Planeswalkers that suit this deck? Jace? Maybe Ral Zarek? I know he looks awful and probably is just awful... but I actually like him untapping my land even while tapping opponent's pernament doesn't really matter. And again, he's 5 loyality Planeswalker for 4, who can sling Lightning Bolts and has really nutcracking ultimate. I believe in him a little bit, especially when he gets cheap as hell.
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:07 pm
by LP, of the Fires
Ral is fine, not amazing. Gets better when you have staticasters and ratchet bomb type cards obviously.
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:18 pm
by Link
ral is sweet on t3 untapping the caryatid.
then t4 nivmizzet HUEHHEHHS
lus you can play xenegos in that list
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:20 pm
by Link
if I were ever gonna play blue itd be gruul splash blue at least.
turn burn? counterflux? ZTD? boon satyr? staticaster? not as bad as you think
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:22 pm
by LP, of the Fires
On the LGS facebook page, all we've done today is make boon satyr puns.
And RUG Ral sounds cool. You could ramp lots of mana and since you're in blue, you'd have actual card draw. To bad it means you'd be playing RUG, the least cool of color combos.
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:25 pm
by Yarpus
God, Fate, staph.
I know that your plan to improve UW Control is to make it smash things, possibly by using Ghor-Clan Rampager... but contain your rage, Gruul friend.
I'm never gonna try to talk about tri-colored decks in this format. I just don't trust them at all. They are not worth of my trust.
Izzet with Anger of the Gods as sweeper, burn as flexxible wincon/removal and Aetherling. I think I've found deck to play if my budget will ever stretch enough to contain it.
RUG
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:26 pm
by Link
RUG is the coolest 3 color by miles.
jund ia badass, the rest are.well I'm on my phone.
the one.guy at states playing rug was so cool I named his deck hipster flash on trice
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:28 pm
by RedNihilist
RUG is REALLY cool.
Yet I don't think a RUG deck can be feasible.
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:29 pm
by Link
it's a bit underpowered but its hella fun and has sweet tools to attack the current metagame
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:31 pm
by zemanjaski
UR control splash dreadbore. That is all.
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:37 pm
by RedNihilist
LOVE. GRIXIS.
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:42 pm
by zemanjaski
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:46 pm
by RedNihilist
Now that you're getting me interested, though:
- UR lacks a Scryland, atm;
- knowing you, you're not going to play tap-out, so I seriously doubt you're considering Chandra - I'll bet you're not even considering Ral Zarek;
- Anger of the Gods is good, but it's not Supreme Verdict either.
4x Magma Jet
3x/4x Anger of the Gods
1x/2x Aetherling
3x Jace AoT?
4x Izzet Charm?
2x Counterflux?
2x Opportunity I guess
?x Dreadbore
3x Steam Augury
?x Mizzium Mortars?
?x Thoughtflare?
3x Dissolve?
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:48 pm
by Link
needs more young pyromancer
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:57 pm
by LP, of the Fires
I'm from the plane of Grixis myself, though it's only every viable when we have battelcruiser cards(cruel ultimatum, titans).
I'm also a fan of Jund.
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:00 pm
by Link
hell you can play destructive revelry against dsphere uw/x happy decks.
with barely any lifegain killing people with ral and ztd seems more feasible. hell YOU get the best lifegain with scavenging ooze.
shit am i really gonna brew blue
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:06 pm
by zemanjaski
Core would be something like:
3 anger of the gods
4 counterflux
2 essence scatter
2 dreadbore
2 izzet charm
4 magma jet
2 opportunity
4 thoughtflare
2 aetherling
4 frostburn weird
27 land
=56
- counterflux beats UW by itself. Can't Rev? Awkward. Izzet Charm and Dreadbore are very powerful as well.
- I'd say you're pretty well set up for aggro
- thoughtflare > steam augury here. Why? It lets you cycle whatever is bad in your hand (eg: removal against control) and it can't discard your Aetherling. It's also cheap enough that it gets you ahead early before you need to fight revelation battles.
Ill fucking demote anyone that goes "4 slots left? 4 Thoughtseize!"
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:08 pm
by LP, of the Fires
Core would be something like:
3 anger of the gods
4 counterflux
2 essence scatter
2 dreadbore
2 izzet charm
4 magma jet
2 opportunity
4 thoughtflare
2 aetherling
4 frostburn weird
27 land
=56
- counterflux beats UW by itself. Can't Rev? Awkward. Izzet Charm and Dreadbore are very powerful as well.
- I'd say you're pretty well set up for aggro
- thoughtflare > steam augury here. Why? It lets you cycle whatever is bad in your hand (eg: removal against control) and it can't discard your Aetherling. It's also cheap enough that it gets you ahead early before you need to fight revelation battles.
Ill fucking demote anyone that goes "4 slots left? 4 Thoughtseize!"
3 thoughtseize, 1 duress.
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:08 pm
by Link
if you're only playing 4 taplands... syncopate seems good?
wait you don't like turn/burn? seems aaesome in a reckoner happy meta... also obzedat et al
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:11 pm
by LP, of the Fires
Let's talk about how Hammer makes any deck running red and creatures infinitely better. Put it in naya. Beat a control player with a hasty ruric thar.
Turn//Burn seems mandatory to me. Syncopate is a card I've always hated with a passion. I'd also go with a split of 2 dissolve, 1 counterflux with 2 flux and 2 negate in the board. Clunky mana/counters are clunky.
I was a blue mage for my first 6/7 years playing magic.
And you'd play 8 taplands. Steam vents+guildgate. on 27 lands, you're almost assuredly including 1/2 mutavault as well. If you where straight UR at least which Z's deck isn't.
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:17 pm
by Helios
Makes me feel good, Z, i built almost that same deck earlier today. I like the fact that you have an out against Mistcutter, i wasnt splashing for dreadbore.
+1 turn // burn. With frostburn weird its is frequently a twofer.
Aetherize? More of a tempo play, but it is pretty sweet.
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:18 pm
by hamfactorial
You could splash white for Purge Profane?
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:21 pm
by zemanjaski
Syncopate is only good early; so it's good in UW which is soft early. UR is really good early, so you want your counters to do more late.
I already have a bunch of answers to Reckoner if it resolves (5 maindeck, possibly 7 post board). Obzedaddy is a bigger issue, but probably still manageable. I don't like Turn // Burn much at all. Far // Away?? Now we're cooking with gas.
Manabase would look something like:
3 Blood Crypt
4 Steam Vents
4 Watery Grave
4 Temple of Deceit
2 Izzet Guildgate
7 Mountain
5 Island
For 16U / 16 R / 11 B
Most of the red comes in untapped, which is super important turn 3 anger of the gods.
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:27 pm
by LP, of the Fires
4 Elvish Mystic
4 Stomping Ground
9 Forest
7 Mountain
3 Ember Swallower
2 Xenagos, the Reveler
4 Stormbreath Dragon
3 Polukranos, World Eater
4 Temple of Abandon
4 Sylvan Caryatid
3 Scavenging Ooze
3 Ghor-Clan Rampager
1 Hammer of Purphoros
4 Domri Rade
2 Mizzium Mortars
1 Chandra, Pyromaster
2 Ruric Thar, the Unbowed
SB: 2 Mizzium Mortars
SB: 1 Hammer of Purphoros
SB: 2 Time to Feed
SB: 1 Destructive Revelry
SB: 3 Peak Eruption
SB: 2 Burning Earth
SB: 1 Gruul War Chant
SB: 3 Anger of the Gods
Gruul Superfriends?
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:34 pm
by DroppinSuga
You could offer her up to the Suga as a gift. Chicks dig Suga.
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:45 pm
by RedNihilist
Syncopate is only good early; so it's good in UW which is soft early. UR is really good early, so you want your counters to do more late.
I already have a bunch of answers to Reckoner if it resolves (5 maindeck, possibly 7 post board). Obzedaddy is a bigger issue, but probably still manageable. I don't like Turn // Burn much at all. Far // Away?? Now we're cooking with gas.
Manabase would look something like:
3 Blood Crypt
4 Steam Vents
4 Watery Grave
4 Temple of Deceit
2 Izzet Guildgate
7 Mountain
5 Island
For 16U / 16 R / 11 B
Most of the red comes in untapped, which is super important turn 3 anger of the gods.
29 lands?
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:48 pm
by zemanjaski
I can't count
-1 Island, -1 Mountain guess.
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:55 pm
by RedNihilist
That leaves us with 4 empty non-land spots.
Mizzium Mortars take care of Vizkopas, as well as the Turn // Burn that you don't like.
Or were you just set on 4x Far // Away?
Also, Underworld Connections seems too greedy, Ratchet Bomb too slow and mediocre, and I've got mixed feelings on Rakdos Return.
Toil // Trouble? Read the Bones?
Does Cyclonic Rift get at least some sideboard love?
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 12:11 am
by Link
WHERE BOON SATYR LP
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 12:17 am
by Haiiro Sedai
I'm asked to come and say hi to these fine people and I'm just sitting here witnessing the creation of awkward (URb) and terrible (RUG) brews instead

.
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 12:20 am
by DroppinSuga
Yeah, way to make terrible brews guys.

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 12:22 am
by Haiiro Sedai
They seem quite good at making terrible brew from here.
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 12:22 am
by Alex
This is the deck I was talking about on the stream this morning. It's still pretty rough, but blue seems like a much better splash color than white for aggressive decks right now.
[deck]
Creatures (28)
4 Firedrinker Satyr
4 Rakdos Cackler
4 Ash Zealot
4 Gore-House Chainwalker
4 Frostburn Weird
4 Boros Reckoner
4 Fanatic of Mogis
Spells (11)
4 Izzet Charm
4 Magma Jet
3 Turn // Burn
Land (21)
4 Steam Vents
4 Izzet Guildgate
1 Mutavault
8 Mountain
4 Island
Sideboard (15)
3 Izzet Staticaster
4 Counterflux
1 Essence Scatter
2 Chandra, Pyromaster
2 Jace, Memory Adept
3 Mizzium Mortars
[/deck]
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 12:23 am
by DroppinSuga
Haters gon' hate.
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 12:24 am
by Alex
They seem quite good at making terrible brew from here.
You're in the wrong tab. This isn't MTGS.