Dies to Removal

Are there any other creatures we can use as enablers through the Heartless Summoning engine? Maybe some of the AVR soulbond guys....will report back.

Faithless Looting with enough redundant effects (and GY relevant cards) get close to 'cycle 2' which is really nice.

Johnny - Unless I'm missing something, Exalted really does nothing for Master given his attributes; with FS and Deathtouch, he doesn't need to do more than 1 point of damage to a creature to kill it, and his toughness only matters if he clashes with another FS/DS creature. For the player, the same 1 point of unblocked damage triggers the last ability, so again nothing is gained by Exalted. The only way Exalted would be relevant for him would be if he was given Trample and you were trying to kill the other guy without using the "cruelty" clause. You could do that, I suppose, but why would you when even Ash Zealot would hit for more under the same conditions (being 2 power to start with)? Master is quite honestly a trap card unless you build a deck
around getting him through FTW the turn he comes down; he's too easily chumped.

T2 smiter, t3 advent of the wurms = gg red player?

They best print a 5 damage burn spell at instant speed for 2 mana for us now.

T2 smiter, t3 advent of the wurms = gg red player?

They best print a 5 damage burn spell at instant speed for 2 mana for us now.

Price of Progress! It's gotta be coming!

The chances of PoP being printed in a set that's meant to push multicolor decks is likely about the same as me hitting Powerball. If they do reprint it, you better bet I will be playin'g those numbers for all I'm worth in support of Khaos-driven FoS compound project!

The chances of PoP being printed in a set that's meant to push multicolor decks is likely about the same as me hitting Powerball. If they do reprint it, you better bet I will be playin'g those numbers for all I'm worth in support of Khaos-driven FoS compound project!

Well, they did print about fifty-thousand graveyard hate cards since introducing all the snazzy graveyard exploitation in the current Standard. I honestly wouldn't be too surprised if PoP were reprinted. I mean, sideboard cards rarely ever stop a deck in it's tracks. Glaring Spotlight[/c:
3cocidgi] didn't stop Bant Auras, [c]Illness in the Ranks was seen as the end of mainboard Lingering Souls but wasn't, and so on. Granted, those are narrower subjects than "every multicolored deck out there" but the parity of the card should keep it from running amok in people's sideboards. Honestly, with the whole gatecrash civic unrest thing going on, a card that punished dual lands would fit snugly in the flavor of the set.

Also, good morning, everyone.

The chances of PoP being printed in a set that's meant to push multicolor decks is likely about the same as me hitting Powerball. If they do reprint it, you better bet I will be playin'g those numbers for all I'm worth in support of Khaos-driven FoS compound project!

Well, they did print about fifty-thousand graveyard hate cards since introducing all the snazzy graveyard exploitation in the current
Standard. I honestly wouldn't be too surprised if PoP were reprinted. I mean, sideboard cards rarely ever stop a deck in it's tracks. Glaring Spotlight didn't stop Bant Auras, Illness in the Ranks was seen as the end of mainboard Lingering Souls but wasn't, and so on. Granted, those are narrower subjects than "every multicolored deck out there" but the parity of the card should keep it from running amok in people's sideboards. Honestly, with the whole gatecrash civic unrest thing going on, a card that punished dual lands would fit snugly in the flavor of the set.

Also, good morning, everyone.

Comparing Price of Progress to graveyard hate is totally skewed. Price of Progress literally punishes 90%+ of the decks in the format, graveyard hate punishes like two decks at most.

The chances of PoP being printed in a set that's meant to push multicolor decks is likely about the same as me hitting Powerball. If they do reprint it, you better bet I will be playin'g those numbers for all I'm worth in support of Khaos-driven FoS
compound project!

Well, they did print about fifty-thousand graveyard hate cards since introducing all the snazzy graveyard exploitation in the current Standard. I honestly wouldn't be too surprised if PoP were reprinted. I mean, sideboard cards rarely ever stop a deck in it's tracks. Glaring Spotlight didn't stop Bant Auras, Illness in the Ranks was seen as the end of mainboard Lingering Souls but wasn't, and so on. Granted, those are narrower subjects than "every multicolored deck out there" but the parity of the card should keep it from running amok in people's sideboards. Honestly, with the whole gatecrash civic unrest thing going on, a card that punished dual lands would fit snugly in the flavor of the set.

Also, good morning, everyone.

Comparing Price of Progress to graveyard hate is totally skewed. Price of Progress literally punishes 90%+ of the decks in the format,
graveyard hate punishes like two decks at most.

You, sir, have a knack for opposing everything I say.

Comparing them both in a vacuum is silly, yes, but I wasn't doing that.

The chances of PoP being printed in a set that's meant to push multicolor decks is
likely about the same as me hitting Powerball. If they do reprint it, you better bet I will be playin'g those numbers for all I'm worth in support of Khaos-driven FoS compound project!

Well, they did print about fifty-thousand graveyard hate cards since introducing all the snazzy graveyard exploitation in the current Standard. I honestly wouldn't be too surprised if PoP were reprinted. I mean, sideboard cards rarely ever stop a deck in it's tracks. Glaring Spotlight didn't stop Bant Auras, Illness in the Ranks was seen as the end of mainboard Lingering Souls but wasn't, and so on. Granted, those are narrower subjects than "every multicolored deck out there" but the parity of the card should keep it from running amok in people's sideboards. Honestly, with the whole gatecrash civic unrest thing going on, a card that punished dual lands would fit snugly in the flavor of the set.

Also, good morning,
everyone.

Comparing Price of Progress to graveyard hate is totally skewed. Price of Progress literally punishes 90%+ of the decks in the format, graveyard hate punishes like two decks at most.

You, sir, have a knack for opposing everything I say.

Comparing them both in a vacuum is silly, yes, but I wasn't doing that.

No he doesn't.

If they reprint Price of Progress then none of us need to worry about the new Wurm.

Because my boner will destroy them all...

You kazey, man.

Kay-zay!

If they reprint Price of Progress then none of us need to worry about the new Wurm.

Because my boner will destroy them all...

Be honest. Your boner is going to escape its confines and kill us all anyway.

'morning, all.

The chances of PoP being printed in a set that's meant to push multicolor decks is likely about the same as me hitting Powerball. If they do reprint it, you better bet I will be playin'g those numbers for all I'm worth in support of Khaos-driven FoS
compound project!

Well, they did print about fifty-thousand graveyard hate cards since introducing all the snazzy graveyard exploitation in the current Standard. I honestly wouldn't be too surprised if PoP were reprinted. I mean, sideboard cards rarely ever stop a deck in it's tracks. Glaring Spotlight didn't stop Bant Auras, Illness in the Ranks was seen as the end of mainboard Lingering Souls but wasn't, and so on. Granted, those are narrower subjects than "every multicolored deck out there" but the parity of the card should keep it from running amok in people's sideboards. Honestly, with the whole gatecrash civic unrest thing going on, a card that punished dual lands would fit snugly in the flavor of the set.

Also, good morning, everyone.

Comparing Price of Progress to graveyard hate is totally skewed. Price of Progress literally punishes 90%+ of the decks in the format,
graveyard hate punishes like two decks at most.

You, sir, have a knack for opposing everything I say.

Comparing them both in a vacuum is silly, yes, but I wasn't doing that.

The chances of PoP being printed in a set that's meant to push multicolor decks is likely about the same as me hitting Powerball. If they do reprint it, you better bet I will be playin'g those numbers for all I'm worth in support of Khaos-driven FoS compound project!

Well, they did print about fifty-thousand graveyard hate cards since introducing all the snazzy graveyard exploitation in the current Standard. I honestly wouldn't be too surprised if PoP were reprinted. I mean, sideboard cards rarely ever stop a deck in it's tracks. Glaring Spotlight[/c:
as9ei7em] didn't stop Bant Auras, [c]Illness in the Ranks was seen as the end of mainboard Lingering Souls but wasn't, and so on. Granted, those are narrower subjects than "every multicolored deck out there" but the parity of the card should keep it from running amok in people's sideboards. Honestly, with the whole gatecrash civic unrest thing going on, a card that punished dual lands would fit snugly in the flavor of the set.

Racecourse Fury?

Yes, I am going deep.

Trample doesn't do anything for MoC - it has to be unblocked.

Re: Master of Cruelties - All I can think about this card is that my Kaalia deck has a one-shot kill now. Amiright, guys? At least, I think I'm reading that right.

Re: Master of Cruelties - All I can think about this card is that my Kaalia deck has a one-shot kill now. Amiright, guys? At least, I think I'm reading that right.

Assuming no blocker for MoC - yeah, that should kill them.

Re: Master of Cruelties - All I can think about this card is that my Kaalia deck has a one-shot kill now. Amiright, guys? At least, I think I'm reading that right.

Assuming no blocker for MoC - yeah, that should kill them.

Man, I'm giddy. My deck has a potential to swing with Kaalia as early as T3. Drop this guy and get ready to shuffle up for another game...

Of course, I play Arcum Dagsson so I can't really talk about pissing people off.

That's the thing with Dagsson - it's a great 1v1 Commander, but the deck can just as easily win a multiplayer game.

The last multiplayer game I played with it, my board state was something like:
Arcum Dagsson
Silver Myr
Thousand-Year Elixir

And one of the players decided that the board was getting too crowded so he cast [card]Akroma's Vengeance[/card]. I activated Arcum, sac'd Myr to get Mycosynth Lattice, then untapped Arcum with Elixir, sac'd Arcum to get Darksteel Forge.

All permanents are artifacts + all artifacts are destroyed + all my artifacts are indestructable =

That's the thing with Dagsson - it's a great 1v1 Commander, but the deck can just as easily win a multiplayer game.

The last multiplayer game I played with it, my board state was something like:
Arcum Dagsson
Silver Myr
Thousand-Year Elixir

And one of the players decided that the board was getting too crowded so he cast [card]Akroma's Vengeance[/card]. I activated Arcum, sac'd Myr to get Mycosynth Lattice, then untapped Arcum with Elixir,
sac'd Arcum to get Darksteel Forge.

All permanents are artifacts + all artifacts are destroyed + all my artifacts are indestructable =

And then you yelled "HAHA GG NERD GET SHAT UPON" and punched him in the face, running out of the room hysterically while tearing off your clothes.

Right?

Right.